Fingeredmouse
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I just can't do this anymore.Housing, depression of wages, pressure on NHS etc.
I just can't do this anymore.Housing, depression of wages, pressure on NHS etc.
There's no Brexit party other than the Tories in Scotland. If you want to get Brexit done you had to vote for them. Only a quarter of the population did, primarily in the border areas.The conservatives got over 25% of the Scottish vote so I would hardly say the whole country is devastated. Twice as many Scots also voted for brexit than voted for the SNP and that seems to get ignored too.
One of the main pledges of Johnson was no more reruns of referendums so I'd be surprised to see one for a long time.
I see it as an damning indictment on May as much as corbyn.
How could she have fecked up losing this majority just two years ago.
She is a woman who was a remainer (albeit not a hardline one).
She also massively disenfranchised the base with her (quite sensible) social care policy.
Well, another way of looking at it is this; the Tories never stood a chance in the North previously so they would probably prefer on focus on areas where they could get votes. Now that they've snagged them they might want to try and keep them. So it'll be steak and blowjob day every day from now on.
Or whatever the Northern equivalent of steak is.......raw pigs cock?!?!
OMFG a heavily disabled girl on BBC has voted Conservative
She must be from a rich aristocratic inbred family as there's no fecking other way unless this country has gone to total shit.
OMFG a heavily disabled girl on BBC has voted Conservative
She must be from a rich aristocratic inbred family as there's no fecking other way unless this country has gone to total shit.
OMFG a heavily disabled girl on BBC has voted Conservative
She must be from a rich aristocratic inbred family as there's no fecking other way unless this country has gone to total shit.
What do you think the chances are that Boris will say "no" to Sturgeon? If I'm right, and there's a first time for everything I guess, the SNP vote share in Scotland was bigger than the Tories in the UK. So if this election shows that there's a mandate for Brexit then it could be argued that the mandate for IndyRef 2 is also there.I don’t deny that at all. But with the Tory majority and the focus on Brexit, the government won’t be going near the question of independence for a long time
This really isn’t a good look mate.OMFG a heavily disabled girl on BBC has voted Conservative
She must be from a rich aristocratic inbred family as there's no fecking other way unless this country has gone to total shit.
Genuine question. Like him or not, Corbyn has always been spoken about as a man with morals above all else.
But he lost the previous two elections, had he stepped down last time we might have had a different result today.
So is he not another career politician? In which case, man or morals is all bollocks? Surely for the greater good he should have stepped down?
What do you think the chances are that Boris will say "no" to Sturgeon? If I'm right, and there's a first time for everything I guess, the SNP vote share in Scotland was bigger than the Tories in the UK. So if this election shows that there's a mandate for Brexit then it could be argued that the mandate for IndyRef 2 is also there.
OMFG a heavily disabled girl on BBC has voted Conservative
She must be from a rich aristocratic inbred family as there's no fecking other way unless this country has gone to total shit.
My party lost, my family in England are fecked. I hope the Tories at least loosen their "feck the poor" attitudes now that they have a chance to keep their votes, and my country has a chance to vote for Independence from the union again - which I've always said I could only support if the Tories were in governance.How are you feeling on this bleak day, mate?
This post has no place here. Some people might want to stop away for a while. You are seriously abusing a disabled girl for expressing her democratic right?
Then what was this election about, and why is Boris coming out today and saying that this shows the country wants to get on with Brexit? He wanted to break the deadlock, to confirm what's already been confirmed allegedly.The mandate for brexit was the 2016 referendum, the mandate for no second indyref was the first indyref and all the once in a generation pish. Surely its only the tories who tell lies, certainly not the SNP.
You're pretty much saying there is no way of knowing then, can't use 50s+60s because of WW2, can't use 70s because of IMF, can't use 80s because of the tax cut (growth was 4.2% in 1978 at highest rate of 83% btw) and from that point on there is no tax raise until after we run into financial problems. There is no signifiant growth in these years though, so how exactly can you be sure that raising taxes doesn't help with growth?
OMFG a heavily disabled girl on BBC has voted Conservative
She must be from a rich aristocratic inbred family as there's no fecking other way unless this country has gone to total shit.
Then what was this election about, and why is Boris coming out today and saying that this shows the country wants to get on with Brexit? His entire election strategy has been "if you want Brexit Done vote for me". The SNP have also focused on IndyRef2 this election.
OMFG a heavily disabled girl on BBC has voted Conservative
She must be from a rich aristocratic inbred family as there's no fecking other way unless this country has gone to total shit.
Ruth Davidson is being disingenuous.Is this true? I've not been in Scotland during the campaign but Ruth Davidson said the SNP specifically said a vote for them wasn't a vote for independence (although that sounds barmy).
Putting aside the ‘inbred’ insult, the other thing people find offensive is the idea that disabled people are some monolithic block of people who should all vote the same way and are incapable of forming different political opinions or having personal agency.I'm not abusing her. I made an assesment based on what she was saying. Disabled people have died because of the policies this government has inflicted on them. How can someone who has suffered through that support it? Its inconcievable unless she hasn't.
I removed the inbred comment that was clearly a mistake fuelled by high emotion.
I think all the leftists and liberals from around the world should create another country and migrate there and leave the nutjobs to themselves.
Well, Sturgeon made it her headline any time she was on TV. It's been their narrative for months. Ruth Davidson wants to maintain the union, she's just giving her "interpretation" of the truthIs this true? I've not been in Scotland during the campaign but Ruth Davidson said the SNP specifically said a vote for them wasn't a vote for independence (although that sounds barmy).
Then what was this election about, and why is Boris coming out today and saying that this shows the country wants to get on with Brexit? His entire election strategy has been "if you want Brexit Done vote for me". The SNP have also focused on IndyRef2 this election.
What do you think the chances are that Boris will say "no" to Sturgeon? If I'm right, and there's a first time for everything I guess, the SNP vote share in Scotland was bigger than the Tories in the UK. So if this election shows that there's a mandate for Brexit then it could be argued that the mandate for IndyRef 2 is also there.
I don't deny that. Funnily enough, we need to now Get Brexit Done for the majority (minus Scotland) before anything else can Get Done (such as Tartan Tuesdays becoming a national holiday)The election was about parliament not doing what the mandate required, so getting a parliament that would. That's been achieved. The SNP has always wanted independence and that would remain if there was indy poll every week that they lost. We as a nation have lots to do now we finally have and workable parliament. After brexit and the dust settles and there is some sort of reasonable gap between elections and referendums it could be revisited but there are priorities before more reruns in my opinion.
OMFG a heavily disabled girl on BBC has voted Conservative
She must be from a rich aristocratic family as there's no fecking other way unless this country has gone to total shit.
Tbf she did the groundwork and we knew more about Brexit and certainly the positions of parties in 2019 than we did in 2017.I see it as an damning indictment on May as much as corbyn.
How could she have fecked up losing this majority just two years ago.
Putting aside the ‘inbred’ insult, the other thing people find offensive is the idea that disabled people are some monolithic block of people who should all vote the same way and are incapable of forming different political opinions or having personal agency.
I wonder if the two can be done side by side in the event of a referendum? Tories say "look - we're focusing on this but if you want to you can take these crayons and sugar paper up to your room and draw your own plans up. If they're any good we'll stick them on the fridge. Now feck off".100% is my guess. I don’t think he will even entertain her.
Her argument will be that she has a mandate, but she doesn’t, because there is no legal requirement for a referendum.
she needs to be seen to be pushing for it, and she will. By the way, I fundamentally disagree with the SNP, but she’s a very effective politician.
But even if (and it won’t happen) there was a will for another referendum, it would have to be after the dust has settled on the UK leaving the EU, and agreeing the future relationship and implementing that relationship. Whilst the agreement may be complete within a year, the implementation period would likely to be a couple more years.
it would be reckless and improbable for the UK to be leaving the EU, and for Scotland to leave the union and try to rejoin the EU in parallel.
Possibly but I'm thinking more that she would never have had the same appeal in the Northern heartlands that Johnson did.
Housing, depression of wages, pressure on NHS etc.