Good grief, what a dreadful error by Channel 4:
UK General Election - 12th December 2019 | Con 365, Lab 203, LD 11, SNP 48, Other 23 - Tory Majority of 80
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I've seen that and tbf it looks like the subtitles were put on wrong. Think he actually says "people of talent."
Indeed... i am aware of that... unlike the person running the country
https://www.irishnews.com/magazine/...paring-brexit-deal-to-microwave-meal-1758723/
imbecile.I'm all for Johnson being criticised justifiably but that's really unfair on him.
It will depend on the deal. Lots of Leavers don't want a second referendum, but if they see it as offering a genuine choice because there's an option on the ballot paper they actually want then they may at least see it as legitimate. If Remain then wins, they may want to have another go some point down the line, but not straight away.
However if Labour put a deal on the ballot that has no credibility among Leavers, I think the opposite is true, it'll inflame the situation. It'd be not dissimilar to asking Remainers to vote in a referendum where Johnson's deal or May's deal were the only choices, and then claiming everyone supported Brexit because they voted for one of them. Indeed, I'd expect the referendum to be boycotted by Farage, the Brexit Party et al. If that idea gains traction then the referendum will have no perceived legitimacy and the arguments just get worse and worse.
i actually think the libs have opened up a can of worms with this revoke policy
If there was a second referendum and as you say leave did not feel properly represented in it then not only do I think it would make the atmosphere worse I think the conservatives /Brexit party would probably simply campaign on a leave manifesto with no second referendum - using the justification that the libs said if they won a majority they had the right to revoke
Boris Johnson has insisted it is “complete nonsense” to suggest his Brexit deal would lead to customs checks between Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
He said:
"I haven’t seen the document you’re referring to but that’s complete nonsense, and what I can tell you is that with the deal that we have we can come out as one whole UK."
He said:
"I haven’t seen the document you’re referring to but that’s complete nonsense, and what I can tell you is that with the deal that we have we can come out as one whole UK."
He should have just said he’s happy for piccaninnies with watermelon smiles to come to the country just so long as we can control the numbers.
Fair point, mate.
Oh no, that would take the fun out of it!
General Elections are 'put up jobs'; or were until the 5 year fixed term rule came about. In the past General Elections only tended to be called when the PM/Government was in trouble, or after votes of no-confidence were passed, or sometimes when the Government was riding high and thought the public wanted more of the same, etc. which generally speaking tended to be around 5 years, or so.
Its not the discourse that's important its the rules that govern the nation, and the Parliament, the Constitution etc. Until that is 'battened-down' then a lead up to a GE will always be akin to watching a 'three-ringed Circus', with entertaining TV shows, especially when you have entertainers like Boris, Farage, even in his way Jeremy, on the Bill. Every TV interviewer trying to out do their rivals, embarrass politicians and the very best 'inquisitors' playing 'cat and mouse' with the Party Leader that's heading the latest polls.
I want my country's leaders to be light on their feet outside Parliament, dealing with the press, etc but straight speaking and honest inside the House of Commons. Of course this rarely happens, the last PM to actually do virtually everything they promised to do was Margaret Thatcher and she had a reputation as both the Iron Lady and the Lady not for Turning and in many ways she 'took no prisoners'... so be careful what you wish for!
More from Johnson:
“I think most people would say I’m the only prime minister to have done not one but tonight two head to head debates, I’ve done 118 sit down interviews with journalists, fielded innumerable questions at press conferences,” he said.
“We cannot accommodate everyone. There’s a guy called Lord Buckethead who wants to have a head to head debate . Unfortunately I am not able to fit him in. We can’t do absolutely everything.”
“I think most people would say I’m the only prime minister to have done not one but tonight two head to head debates, I’ve done 118 sit down interviews with journalists, fielded innumerable questions at press conferences,” he said.
“We cannot accommodate everyone. There’s a guy called Lord Buckethead who wants to have a head to head debate . Unfortunately I am not able to fit him in. We can’t do absolutely everything.”
'senior conservative' now trending on Twitter with some savage criticism and sarcasm.
You can’t repackage his behaviour into the realms of ‘Smart’. It’s wholly unethical.
So why is he appearing tonight against Corbyn.
Yet another lie maybe from the compulsive liar that is Boris Johnson.
This basically confirms that he's our very own version of Trump - that delicate balance of coward and bully.
Oh well, back in the caravan Steve.
Edit: ffs Lord Buckethead is an actual person and not Andrew Neil. Still, back in the caravan I go.
It's a caravan of love, chiefo.
Revelations coming out that the serial rapist and murderer McCann was wrongly released from prison by the probation service.
Not good news for Johnson ahead of the final debate tonight.
Not good news for Johnson ahead of the final debate tonight.
Bit of extra info / background
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...ph-mccann-case-the-error-and-its-implications
Read that case before, a real sick individual. Not really a huge supporter of whole life tariffs but people like him shouldn't be allowed back on the streets again.
because tonight is a debate not an interview... your gonna have to find much better questions than that if you want boris to struggle to lie his way out of it
I listened to that clip several times with the phone to my ear and I honestly believe he said talent not that it excuses him from all the other shit he’s said
Thank you for that, very interesting.
I might be misreading this article but it looks to me like this looks worse than I originally thought for the conservatives, all be it with room to spin.
I don’t think there is a question to be honest. For all his faults he has used the word ‘talent’ consistently in that context throughout the campaign.
Ah c'mon. Labour will be to blame for that because of something that Clement Attlee back in the 50's.
If they can't shift it on to Labour then specific individuals within the Probation Service itself will be to blame directly in much the same way that Grenfell was the fault of the Fire Service.
I’d laugh but it’s so true it makes me want to bang my head against the wall.
What do people make of this ‘leaked document’ that Corbyn has come out with today suggesting that Northern Ireland will be subject to checks following brexit?
Problem is that pro-Brexit/leaning Tory English voters dont give a hoot about that.
This is true and also somewhat depressing. I’m watching BBC News now and they seem to be of the thinking that the document is genuine and the DUP will not support the Tories because of it.
Corbyn is trying to bang home this trust issue against Johnson. He has to go for blood tonight. For once in his political life he needs to be ruthless. The question is, can he do it? Especially in a true blue area like Southampton.
Not a lot because anyone with half a brain knows already that it's the only way it would work in reality. Christ, the DUP knew that which is why they were so vehemently opposed to it.
Pretty ironic considering the Tories’ somewhat special take on maths recently.
Labour are really going after this trust thing with Johnson:
People are thick, this isn’t new.
There is nothing ethical about politics during an election, its only about winning by persuading enough people to vote for you/your party.
Ethics comes into it (should come into it) when laws are being made in the House of Commons/Lords, until then its a 'roadshow' containing TV specials, a media frenzy of digging up every word the candidates ever said in the past, a daily running commentary on/in social media 'echo chambers', even the old fashioned hustings are now totally staged managed, events packed with supporters cheering every word.
The only person who has made any real impact has been Andrew Neil, with his interviews of the Party Leaders with ground to make up, who agreed to appear with him in the vain hope they could tame Andrew and advance their cause, all shot down in flames. Boris out in front doesn't need to take that risk, I call it being smart!
I call it the sign of a serial liar who can't be trusted, but different cocks for different socks I suppose.
Everything one does has a ethical component and to suggest one can campaign for months without any sort of moral compass is, well, disturbing. Someone who can just cast aside his ethics for an election has in essence no ethics at all.
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