Jacko21
Full Member
If this is fake, it was a good guess...
Neil is the toughest interviewer out there, but when his interview with Sturgeon was pulled up by the BBC fact-checkers it doesn't exactly help his cause.
https://bbc.co.uk/news/50552295
His format is designed to catch politicians out, but I'm not sure any would've been able to counter him effectively. Is that a good thing? Sturgeon went about it the right way, she needed to see his sources before jumping to an answer.
Yup... Jess got the tone right
Not that I expect Johnson to do any better if he shows up for an interview
Well, we're still British citizens and we're still paying taxes there (and here). Your vote is cast in the constituency where you were last registered. Ironically, we wouldn't be here full-time if it wasn't for Brexit, so we have a particular interest in what happens.Pardon my ignorance but that doesn't really seem right to me. I'm sure you have perfectly reasonable views, but as you are now a permanent resident of another country I'm not sure what basis you have for voting in UK elections.
You can register as an overseas voter for up to 15 years after leaving the UK, as long as: you're a British or eligible Irish citizen. you were registered to vote in the UK within the previous 15 years (or, in some cases, if you were too young to have registered when you left the UK)
What do you think the headline would be if he apologises?
There's already an ongoing investigation into this taking place. He's unequivocally stated he's against discrimination of any kind and unlike most politicians can actually back up those claims with evidence and yet that's still not good enough for some and it never will be because and I think it's fair to say this, not all racism is the same in the current climate.
On the day the Chief Rabbi calls him out why didn’t he just apologise? Why not say he‘ll reopen the cases of those found guilty of antisemitism that are still in the party and just launch them out of the party?
Johnson’s due to face him next week.Could be damaging for Corbyn.
Don't see Boris fairing better mind.
Johnson’s due to face him next week.
Yeah just noticed it in the news headlines. I was only looking at the beeb front page.It’s been the top story on my feed for at least the last hour.
It's his "Hi my name is Jeremy and welcome to Jackass" moment. Surprised it's taken this long tbh.On the day the Chief Rabbi calls him out why didn’t he just apologise? Why not say he‘ll reopen the cases of those found guilty of antisemitism that are still in the party and just launch them out of the party?
On the day the Chief Rabbi calls him out why didn’t he just apologise? Why not say he‘ll reopen the cases of those found guilty of antisemitism that are still in the party and just launch them out of the party?
Yep. I'm sure it didn't look good but the media coverage was going to burn him either way.I think he’s just determined to stay absolutely defiant that he’s never done anything anti-Semitic and any movement from that stance, even in the form of an “I’m sorry if you interpreted something wrong and it upset you” he’s aware that tomorrow’s papers will be headlined with “Corbyn admits to antisemitism, offers half assed apology makes no promises to improve in future”.
I think he’s just determined to stay absolutely defiant that he’s never done anything anti-Semitic and any movement from that stance, even in the form of an “I’m sorry if you interpreted something wrong and it upset you” he’s aware that tomorrow’s papers will be headlined with “Corbyn admits to antisemitism, offers half assed apology makes no promises to improve in future”.
I'd written a parody about Bernie being anti-Hindu but thought it went too far from reality.
Weird because Labour capitulated to their demands on Kashmir in a couple of days.
Yip. I think that stops most of the media/public clamour stone dead.On the day the Chief Rabbi calls him out why didn’t he just apologise? Why not say he‘ll reopen the cases of those found guilty of antisemitism that are still in the party and just launch them out of the party?
Not necessarily. The year I got my honours degree was the year of the market crash. I entered a jobs market where nobody was employing and ended up taking what I could get. I'm 32, still renting, with four kids and now working in a job that I know pays about 20% less than it would had it not been for this government's "1% cap for the public sector" that saw inflation overtake what I made from my second year in the job onwards. We're still behind and I look at my kids and say that I'll never ever vote for a party that will put them through the same shit that my generation walked out of the doors of university into.
I'm doing a second degree and getting my TQFE so I can become a teacher trainer. But if I wasn't in Scotland, and if it wasn't because of Scottish Labour and SNP policies, I would have had to pay for it, just like my first degree.
So, yeah, feck the Tories.
Yip. I think that stops most of the media/public clamour stone dead.
In the same way that Boris should have apologised on Friday (for the "post box" comment from his piece years ago).
I do wonder if some politicians even use PR advice. If they don't, they're stupid... if they are then sack the PR people.
I lost my job as part of the fall out of 2008, although, I blame myself because I had a very good job which I really liked and decided to change because I thought there was a better opportunity for my future career. I could see the writing on the wall, but still changed jobs, and it turned out to be a catastrophic error of judgement which set my career back 10 years and means I will never fulfill my potential.
I come from it from a slightly different angle to you though. I was subject to a Labour welfare policy when I was out of work. Despite having paid fortunes in PAYE, I received 6 months unemployment and then I was pretty much on my own. I had a mortgage which the interest was paid, but no capital, which left me with £1 a week income support. I was able to borrow money from my family and did a few off the record 'jobs' to get by for the next year.
After 10 years of Labour rule, did you not find the Labour Party in any way culpable at all for the situation you found yourself in? All the no more boom and bust crap, but despite all those years of boom, nothing put aside to cushion the blow of the inevitable bust?
This is what I don't get, the Blair/Brown Government is only ever criticised for Iraq, and rightly so, but seem to get a free pass for the financial mismanagement of the economy.
They’re looking across the Atlantic and around the world generally and concluding that defiance in the face of criticism is a more successful strategy than folding.
I prefer the Boom -> Bust scenario to the Austerity -> Bust scenario the Tories are leading us towards.
Of course I blame Labour for not having a safety net, and you seem to have every right to blame them after your circumstances. But the reality is that nobody expected what happened in 2008 because the banks were breaking the law daily. From what I remember it was the Tories that wanted to deregulate the banks.I lost my job as part of the fall out of 2008, although, I blame myself because I had a very good job which I really liked and decided to change because I thought there was a better opportunity for my future career. I could see the writing on the wall, but still changed jobs, and it turned out to be a catastrophic error of judgement which set my career back 10 years and means I will never fulfill my potential.
I come from it from a slightly different angle to you though. I was subject to a Labour welfare policy when I was out of work. Despite having paid fortunes in PAYE, I received 6 months unemployment and then I was pretty much on my own. I had a mortgage which the interest was paid, but no capital, which left me with £1 a week income support. I was able to borrow money from my family and did a few off the record 'jobs' to get by for the next year.
After 10 years of Labour rule, did you not find the Labour Party in any way culpable at all for the situation you found yourself in? All the no more boom and bust crap, but despite all those years of boom, nothing put aside to cushion the blow of the inevitable bust?
This is what I don't get, the Blair/Brown Government is only ever criticised for Iraq, and rightly so, but seem to get a free pass for the financial mismanagement of the economy.
I see how that works for Boris and his audience but surely Jeremy is a different kettle of fish. He part defines himself by fighting racism in all its forms.
I lost my job as part of the fall out of 2008, although, I blame myself because I had a very good job which I really liked and decided to change because I thought there was a better opportunity for my future career. I could see the writing on the wall, but still changed jobs, and it turned out to be a catastrophic error of judgement which set my career back 10 years and means I will never fulfill my potential.
I come from it from a slightly different angle to you though. I was subject to a Labour welfare policy when I was out of work. Despite having paid fortunes in PAYE, I received 6 months unemployment and then I was pretty much on my own. I had a mortgage which the interest was paid, but no capital, which left me with £1 a week income support. I was able to borrow money from my family and did a few off the record 'jobs' to get by for the next year.
After 10 years of Labour rule, did you not find the Labour Party in any way culpable at all for the situation you found yourself in? All the no more boom and bust crap, but despite all those years of boom, nothing put aside to cushion the blow of the inevitable bust?
This is what I don't get, the Blair/Brown Government is only ever criticised for Iraq, and rightly so, but seem to get a free pass for the financial mismanagement of the economy.
If they're looking to US politicians for guidance, they're more stupid than I thought.They’re looking across the Atlantic and around the world generally and concluding that defiance in the face of criticism is a more successful strategy than folding.
And Neill was pretty accurate in his questions on all those issues. Corbyn had no credible answers on tax or Waspi, and stupidly struggled on A-S.Bloody hell. If he fared worse than he did tonight, I'll have to Google it!! Must have been carnage.
Anti semitism, huge borrowing and the fact that it's not just the top5% (and businesses) that'll take the pain.... are all issues for Labour and Andrew Neil knew that and went for them.
As long as he does the same for all.
To be fair he wasn't going to get many votes from centrists and Jews anywayCame across as an angry, sanctimonious and anti wealth. Definitely lost votes from centrists, fence sitters and Jews tonight!
This Brexshit has been a huge factor in the shit we find ourselves in. 3 1/2 years of pissing about, which wouldn't have been necessary if Boris had put aside his petty differences with Cameron and supported remain
I prefer the Boom -> Bust scenario to the Austerity -> Bust scenario the Tories are leading us towards.
Or if Corbyn had campaigned at all on his stated preference...This Brexshit has been a huge factor in the shit we find ourselves in. 3 1/2 years of pissing about, which wouldn't have been necessary if Boris had put aside his petty differences with Cameron and supported remain
I joined RedCafe when I was out of work, to give myself something else to occupy my time with.
So you can blame Labour for that too
Hard to see Corbyn winning anyone around tonight. The intransigence doesn’t come across well. Just act conciliatory, even if you don’t believe it, you plum!