What's that? It hasn't loaded properly and is all pixelated.
Not sure if serious..
What's that? It hasn't loaded properly and is all pixelated.
Hint: that was the joke.Not sure if serious..
Bob Lazar is a massive massive fraud I'm afraid. Great podcast, but you have to treat it as a radio play.So having watched this then the Joe Rogan podcast with Bob Lazar (really interesting interview), It all seems really convincing. I still don't believe it, or I'm convincing myself that it can't be real. I know there is life out there, it has to be and I'm sure some of that life is more advanced than us. But has it come here? I don't know. But at least for once anyone who believes this, I cannot with absolutely certainty call that person a nutter. Its something I am not sure about and am interested to see where it leads.
If anyone has more info about this Bob Lazar guy and has done due diligence, would you be able to shed more light?
Could have also been an iridium flare.I saw what I thought was a UFO as a teenager in South Florida. Massive white cloud in a dark sky very early one morning. The light that illuminated the cloud was intense, then slowly dissipated and whatever its source was sped away. In retrospect, it was likely a rocket from a satellite launch up the coast at Cape Canaveral.
Could have also been an iridium flare.
I saw what I thought was a UFO as a teenager in South Florida. Massive white cloud in a dark sky very early one morning. The light that illuminated the cloud was intense, then slowly dissipated and whatever its source was sped away. In retrospect, it was likely a rocket from a satellite launch up the coast at Cape Canaveral.
Yep, a perfect example of Occam's razor in full flow.Considering the amount of shit we tip into the ocean, these underwater folks would surely have emerged and given us a stern telling off by now.
Otherwise, perfectly plausible theory.
Yes. This is both probable and logical, I agree.Probably a super advanced sea based civilisation that evolved millions of years before us. Maybe they watch us but aren't interested in making contact because we're too aggressive and primitive... Possible they're down there somewhere but don't want us to find them. Or maybe even left the planet and went elsewhere.
Cetaceans started evolving about 50 million years ago, that is a long time to develop far beyond what we have in the last 250k years or so. We know something has probably messed around with the DNA of sperm whales 30k years ago, they all share a common eve ancestor from that time from genetic studies of them. That would seem to be impossible to have happened naturally. Sperm whales (and Orcas, possibly other cetaceans too) almost certainly have a language of some kind that people are trying to figure out.
As ridiculous as it sounds, that is the most logical explanation as I see it. Or it could be a civilisation from elsewhere that has a multi million year evolutionary advantage on us. Solution to the fermi paradox. It's not something to worry about, if a civilisation that is 50m+ years old wanted to wipe us out they likely would have already and we wouldn't be able to do anything anyway.
Quite, quite. All these convoluted explanations being invented regarding secret military tests or whatever when the simplest answer is so obvious: covert submarine hyper evolved geneticist aeronauts.Yep, a perfect example of Occam's razor in full flow.
Bob Lazar is a massive massive fraud I'm afraid. Great podcast, but you have to treat it as a radio play.
This. And only this.Although there is absolutely a conversation to be had on whether they are some kind of attempt by the US military to seize more funding etc.
Yeah, in the interview his body language and the fact that he kept losing his place in time was a little bit of red flag. But he did say he had a headache. Is there anything more you can tell me as to what you consider him a fraud? I'd love to do a deep dive in to this (hope I keep my sanity beyond it), if you have any links to reading material, I'd appreciate it.
because starting a new cold war with china isnt enough?This. And only this.
They’re looking really hard for the next bogeyman to maintain or increase funding so they’re throwing this on to the wall to see if it sticks.
That was to try to fill the void. The Chinese will win using trade and other means, not military weapons.because starting a new cold war with china isnt enough?
I totally dig that stuff - but why are we seeing these submarine people only while flying through the air? Is it just to confuse them, so we don't start doing an underwater SETI?Quite, quite. All these convoluted explanations being invented regarding secret military tests or whatever when the simplest answer is so obvious: covert submarine hyper evolved geneticist aeronauts.
That's missing the point. The thing about these UAPs is not that they test the limits of what could be considered possible with our present day understanding of physics, it's that they break them.Do people really believe some civilization that's developed the technology to travel light years across space would get to within about 1,000 feet of earth and think 'nah, looks shit, let's go home'?
A lot of early UFO sightings are now known to be from things like the Lockheed Have Blue and various other X programs. God only knows whats flying about now.
That's missing the point. The thing about these UAPs is not that they test the limits of what could be considered possible with our present day understanding of physics, it's that they break them.
Are you trying to make out that it'd be utterly pointless for an extraterrestrial species to study and monitor Earth from a distance?Do people really believe some civilization that's developed the technology to travel light years across space would get to within about 1,000 feet of earth and think 'nah, looks shit, let's go home'?
A lot of early UFO sightings are now known to be from things like the Lockheed Have Blue and various other X programs. God only knows whats flying about now.
Are you trying to make out that it'd be utterly pointless for an extraterrestrial species to study and monitor Earth from a distance?
They're not really doing what? Observing from a distance? I would class observing from the sky as distance.. I didn't mean it in such a literal sense by the way. More like study and monitor Earth without disturbing its natural evolution.They're not really doing that, though, are they? They're getting close enough for hundreds of observations. Anyone with the ability to cross interstellar space would have the ability to remain completely undetected.
They're not really doing what? Observing from a distance? I would class observing from the sky as distance.. I didn't mean it in such a literal sense by the way. More like study and monitor Earth without disturbing its natural evolution.
NEW (Leaked 15/05)
Declassified 2020
Recent 60 Minutes special on UAP
https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/uf...tes-2021-05-16/?__twitter_impression=true#app
Yeah and they could well be for the majority of the time, a lot of the sightings have been close to military activity, maybe they sacrifice their visibility in that rare moment to test how most advanced our aircrafts are compared to theirs. They could be highly advanced AI drones, where they're programmed to be as stealthy as possible but sometimes they're spotted. They have been recorded doing up to 600g apparently, which makes me think theres no way life could be on board that, saying that if they can do 600g then they've already figured something out about gravity that we haven't, who knows what the true capabilities could be.That's what I would assume any alien would do (though ultimately I don't believe anyone would have made it here). But I also think that if the goal is to monitor without disturbing the natural course of events, staying completely undetected would be a core motivation.
Future civilization going back in timeET pods/vessels
Unknown Earthly civilization pods/vessels
Higher dimension intersection
Parallel/multiverse intersection
Block universe theory
Simulation stuff
Natural/unnatural phenomena
Perhaps more possibilities than I know?
Covert submarine hyper evolved geneticist aeronautsFuture civilization going back in time
Because they might not be objects.So we don't call them UFOs anymore?
Because they might not be objects.