Let's be clear, Mings intentionally caught Ibra with his foot but it was far from a stamp...more of a rake. Dirty as feck but trying hard to get away with it without causing serious injury.
Tyrone Mings stamp on Zlatan | He’s at it again
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Let's be clear, Mings intentionally caught Ibra with his foot but it was far from a stamp...more of a rake. Dirty as feck but trying hard to get away with it without causing serious injury.
Others simply have to step it up now for those 3 games.
Shouldn't be an excuse for not scoring. If we don't find the net, it's on the players.
Shouldn't be an excuse for not scoring. If we don't find the net, it's on the players.
Danny Murphy? I am confident that I can build a "Random Sentence Generator" app within an hour and it would make more sense than him.
Still have to go to Chelsea, Arsenal, City & Spurs
How so?
I get where you're coming from but it can't be compared to England really. And also Milan ended up 12 p behind.
It was probably over anyway. I hope Jose goes balls out for Europa now. Take the league seriously by all means, but rest important players when needed.
If you think that winning the PL is easier than winning the CL then we could not disagree more with each other.
I disagree top 4 is gone.
We have seen lots of elbows being thrown but what Mings did is criminal.
To stamp on someone's head with studs is with intention to cause harm.
Based on his response criminal charges should be considered.
We have seen lots of elbows being thrown but what Mings did is criminal.
To stamp on someone's head with studs is with intention to cause harm.
Based on his response criminal charges should be considered.
We've played Chelsea away. We play them at home in the league. Away in the cup.
Arsenal are shite. Spurs and City will be hard games but they are beatable.
I think winning the CL is more circumstantial, like for example one bad referee could end your chances of winning, like Ovrebo with Chelsea. One bad ref's performance in the league won't have such an impact. There are countless times where the best team gets knock out to a much worse one. Chelsea were completely overrun both in the semis and the finals and still won. Does that mean what Di Matteo did with Chelsea was more difficult than the three PL titles for Miurinho?
Over the course of a 38 match long season you can't win the whole thing on luck.
Well, we'd better brace ourselves coz this will be three games without seemingly the only man capable of scoring goals for us right now.
I imagine Rashford will have to start as a lone striker but we're gonna have to seriously re-jig our approach for those games, as Marcus is a completely different striker - no point giving him the ball to hold up, we're gonna have to have him playing off the shoulder of the CB's and be a lot more clever with our through balls.
I imagine Rashford will have to start as a lone striker but we're gonna have to seriously re-jig our approach for those games, as Marcus is a completely different striker - no point giving him the ball to hold up, we're gonna have to have him playing off the shoulder of the CB's and be a lot more clever with our through balls.
I think Mings will get a 5-6 game ban if found guilty/accepts the charge. No word yet whether he will defend the charge and elect for a personal hearing.
Absolutely the correct decision to charge both. There is no place in the game for that. Im still surprised that Ibra was still on the pitchafter throwing Mings to the ground earlier, and wasnt even booked
http://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-verdict-on-mings-v-ibrahimovic-35506597.html
Paul McGrath has labeled Bournemouth defender Tyrone Mings ‘a coward’ after he appeared to try and stamp on Manchester United striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic in Saturday’s feisty 1-1 draw at Old Trafford
Paul McGrath has labeled Bournemouth defender Tyrone Mings ‘a coward’ after he appeared to try and stamp on Manchester United striker Zlatan Ibrahimovic in Saturday’s feisty 1-1 draw at Old Trafford
It's relevant. Your decision is wrong if you're deliberately not being consistent, even if you think it would have been justified in an isolated incident.
At the time I thought Zlatan and Mings should have been sent off, so no complaints from me.
It'll be interesting to see how we perform without him.
It'll be interesting to see how we perform without him.
Easy to defend against, lack of consistent goal scores and no killer instinct
I give you $10k tomorrow to have either of those two things happen to you... pick. I'll take the graze from a boot.
Ignoring how I feel about the 'stamp', Ibrahimovic was arguably more guilty as he deliberately sought to even the score. It wasn't spur of the moment.
3 matches each should suffice.
Agree with that but my point was about Zlatan being hard done by. Or at least feeling that way.
He jammed his elbow into somebody's face on purpose. That somebody else might get away with it does not make him unfortunate. It just makes the other offender lucky.
So you think the decision to charge Zlatan is wrong?
and yet the team has only 1 point less than Arsenal and 3 points off the 4th spot, with an extra game compare to Liverpool.
I think United fans will be pleasantly surprised at just how well you'll do without Zlatan. The reason he's scoring most goals is because most of your forward play focuses on the big fellah. Jose is more than adept at changing things to suit. I wouldn't be too shocked if you actually perform better (as a team) without Ibra.
Arsenal and Liverpool are hardly the barometers to use when comparing teams, especially when they're both trying their best to feck off top four too.
Liverpool are on the 4th spot. Whom should I compare?
Even the FA has determined that Mings action was far worse. See the various links above.
So it wont be an equal ban for sure.
You're having a laugh if you're calling this a graze, watch Ibrahimovic's head bounce
A team who we should actually want to be on the level of, not who are also constantly faltering?
I'm actually a bit excited to see how we will do with a pacy forward, (if) Jose chooses to use Rashford up top. Not that Zlatan isn't one of our best players, but still.
Marcus
Martial Mkhi Mata
4x M's!
Jose will put Moomey into that line up.
It's a graze, at no point is Ibra's head on the ground while a boot is on top if it. I'm sure it hurt but it's still a glancing blow. I'd take that over an elbow smashed in my face.
I think you're just trolling at this point so carry on.
Wouldn't that be interesting. Granted, Ibra is a perfect target forward in the way we play now, but will Jose be willing to switch up the style of play? He's played Martial & Rashford up top, but usually in cup games, not league. At least Jose can experiment in the FA Cup and iron out some of the issues. TBH, I hope Ibra doesn't appeal & take the punishment starting Monday's game. No use in missing out on another league game and it allows Jose a whole lot of time to drill the team in how to play without Ibra.
BTW, both deserved red cards in the game, so whatever retrospective bans is fine with me. Believe Ibra gets the standard 3, but Mings will probably get at least 5 or 6. Nasty stuff there, but Ibra really didn't need to get caught up in all that extracurricular activity.
very strange even as a troll.
Nope. Not ever. Just level headed and I've got out the way of my own bias. (Not saying that you're not)
Not too fussed if anyone rates one worse than the other and disagree with me in any way.
There were people calling for a 10 game ban for Mings which is just ridiculous.
You would think that but José is just as likely to replace the big fella up front
with the big fellaini up frontYou'd take a grown man standing on your head in football boots over an elbow to the side of the head?
Either merely mistaken or a downright lie, only you will know.
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He didn't stand on his head. He kicked him in the head. So yes, I'd take a kick to the head before I took an elbow to the face.
Fine if others wouldn't. Everyone has their own opinion.
The FA seem to swing the axe by public outrage rather than any common sense though. Remember after the Suarez bite the FA actually referred to the fact it was trending on Twitter as a reason to increase his ban way above normal.
People shitting the bed claiming Ming's should be receiving criminal charges are idiots, Ibra was literally up throwing elbows within seconds, how would you prove this "assault" caused him any harm at all?
How would you prove there was intent beyond reasonable doubt on the part of Ming's which is the standard required in a criminal court?
Ben Thatcher is the standard we judge against. That sickening elbow on Mendes got him 7 games I think - possibly plus a suspended extra 3 - and that was assault. 100% unarguable no arguing serious assault.
They've decided it was intentional so he'll probably end up with an extra game ban.
Oh of course the FA can decide on intent based on hearsay and public opinion if they want to, but this would never see the light of day in a real court room.