Tyrell Malacia (Out) | talks with Benfica collapse

We're getting nowhere near 10-12m, it'll be more like 3-4m.
Feel like we can squeeze out a little more. But yeah, either way, it means we pay lesser for Carreras who would be so much of an upgrade.
 
Going to places like Como, Milano & Barcelona but not on holiday. Great stuff, wonderful places to live.

Gives the club some wiggleroom for incomings hopefully.
 


Tyrell Malacia is leaving Manchester United . Sources close to the player have confirmed this.

The left back is close to an agreement with a new club and will be loaned to a top European competition. Rúben Amorim has given ✅ for loan. more @VI_nl
 
It would be bonkers to loan him out without getting someone else in. Surely this means someone is coming in???
 
Hopefully he does well at loan and then we sell him permanently in summer. Contract expires in 2026 so we wouldn't get that much money but could be a decent fee.
 
Manchester United have no left back, and are somehow selling a left back. This surely means we are signing a left back.
 
I think his time out made people think he was better than he was, despite being our only fit left back he rarely gets a kick. He isn't going to be a miss, he simply isn't good enough.

He is also close with the same friendship group as another, who is hopefully departing this window too.
 
Manchester United have no left back, and are somehow selling a left back. This surely means we are signing a left back.
Well we play with wingbacks so Amorim probably doesn't think Malacia fits that role and also doesn't see him as LCB. So even if he was to stay he possibly wouldn't be given chances at LWB. But I too hope this means we'll get 1 wingback this month, at least on loan.
 
We must be the first team that has no left back and still manages to sell two Lbs in 2 consecutive windows.
 
If some club wants to take him with an obligation then take it.

Even if it leaves us short for a few month, the more work we can get done with outgoings before the summer window the better imo.
 
If some club wants to take him with an obligation then take it.

Even if it leaves us short for a few month, the more work we can get done with outgoings before the summer window the better imo.
I agree. Obviously leaving ourselves short isn’t ideal but in my view we have to take the opportunities to move players on who aren’t good enough when they come along. He falls into that category.
 
I agree. Obviously leaving ourselves short isn’t ideal but in my view we have to take the opportunities to move players on who aren’t good enough when they come along. He falls into that category.
Part of me is hoping we get forced into giving Amass a go at left back. Really think he could step up to the challenge and there's not as much defensive responsibility at LWB as there is at LB. He's such a smart and neat player to watch and has a really good cross on him unlike virtually every one of our wide players. Played a beauty yesterday in the FAYC.
 
Good news. Injury issues aside, not good enough for a mid-table EPL team. If one made a list of post- Ferguson left fullbacks, it would look like something like this:

1. Shawberto Carlos
2. D. Blind
3. A. Young
4. B. Williams
5. C. Borthwick-Jackson
6. Reguilon
7. Malacia
 
The left back position should have been addressed in the summer it was madness to into the season with Shaw, Mazarioui and malacia as the only guys who are specialists for that position. It was obvious from Malacia first season before he picked up the major injury that was never going to be good enough for this level.

I think I remember he was signed because Ten Hag was impressed with how he pocketed Antony, when Ajax played Feyenoord
 
I think I remember he was signed because Ten Hag was impressed with how he pocketed Antony, when Ajax played Feyenoord

Poor Erik would’ve been impressed by a simple card trick or a someone being able to make a yo-yo roll back up first time :(
 
This lad never looked good enough even before the injury, and he looks even worse now. Antony can cover the position for the rest of the season if we don’t get anyone else in this month.
 
The left back position should have been addressed in the summer it was madness to into the season with Shaw, Mazarioui and malacia as the only guys who are specialists for that position. It was obvious from Malacia first season before he picked up the major injury that was never going to be good enough for this level.

I think I remember he was signed because Ten Hag was impressed with how he pocketed Antony, when Ajax played Feyenoord

That's amusing if so. This club has been irrevocably damaged by the simple fact that Ten Hag didn't realise that the Dutch league is rubbish.
 
Good news. Injury issues aside, not good enough for a mid-table EPL team. If one made a list of post- Ferguson left fullbacks, it would look like something like this:

1. Shawberto Carlos
2. D. Blind
3. A. Young
4. B. Williams
5. C. Borthwick-Jackson
6. Reguilon
7. Malacia

Not even Williams, Borthwick Jackson, their friends and their families would put their names above players like Reguilon and Malacia.
 
That's amusing if so. This club has been irrevocably damaged by the simple fact that Ten Hag didn't realise that the Dutch league is rubbish.

Giving him full final say veto power was the biggest mistake since Ten Hag's talent ID has always been poor even when he managed FC Uretete he made terrible signings for them. Every club he's been at he's either brought in 2 or 3 former players or just brought in plain journeyman duds like Quincy Promes, Labylad,Babel, Haller

At Ajax it was Overmars and Van Dar Sar who were mainly responsible for identifying talent For Ajax. it was definitely Overmars who was responsible for the signings of De Jong, Onana, Ziiyech, Tagliafico, Antony, Martinez, Alverezand Tadic who were key players for the ajax team that reached the CL semi final

But can't blame the old board too much because he gave them the ultimatum that unless he had the veto power he wouldn't sign up for the job and everyone thought he was the next second coming of Pep
 
He's miles off being anywhere near good enough to play for a top side. Get rid with the rest of the deadwood.
 
Giving him full final say veto power was the biggest mistake since Ten Hag's talent ID has always been poor even when he managed FC Uretete he made terrible signings for them. Every club he's been at he's either brought in 2 or 3 former players or just brought in plain journeyman duds like Quincy Promes, Labylad,Babel, Haller

At Ajax it was Overmars and Van Dar Sar who were mainly responsible for identifying talent For Ajax. it was definitely Overmars who was responsible for the signings of De Jong, Onana, Ziiyech, Tagliafico, Antony, Martinez, Alverezand Tadic who were key players for the ajax team that reached the CL semi final

But can't blame the old board too much because he gave them the ultimatum that unless he had the veto power he wouldn't sign up for the job and everyone thought he was the next second coming of Pep

Interesting insights mate
 
Giving him full final say veto power was the biggest mistake since Ten Hag's talent ID has always been poor even when he managed FC Uretete he made terrible signings for them. Every club he's been at he's either brought in 2 or 3 former players or just brought in plain journeyman duds like Quincy Promes, Labylad,Babel, Haller

At Ajax it was Overmars and Van Dar Sar who were mainly responsible for identifying talent For Ajax. it was definitely Overmars who was responsible for the signings of De Jong, Onana, Ziiyech, Tagliafico, Antony, Martinez, Alverezand Tadic who were key players for the ajax team that reached the CL semi final

But can't blame the old board too much because he gave them the ultimatum that unless he had the veto power he wouldn't sign up for the job and everyone thought he was the next second coming of Pep

Interesting insights mate

Very interesting considering it is inaccurate. Ten hag did not have ''full final say''. The decisions were always joint between manager and club with equal veto right.

And yes, the old board is completely and utterly to blame as much as Ten Hag was (arguably more so given it's their territory for talent identification), because they failed to provide reasonable alternatives to Ten Hag's own suggestions. If you take Antony for example, the club knew a lot about him and he was thoroughly scouted. It was the club that fecked up the fee on top.

If you take our CF situation, Ten Hag wanted Kane but the club didn't want to go in that direction. The club's own suggestions of Kolo Muani and Goncalo Ramos were arguably just as poor as Ten Hag's own preference for Hojlund.
 
Very interesting considering it is inaccurate. Ten hag did not have ''full final say''. The decisions were always joint between manager and club with equal veto right.

And yes, the old board is completely and utterly to blame as much as Ten Hag was (arguably more so given it's their territory for talent identification), because they failed to provide reasonable alternatives to Ten Hag's own suggestions. If you take Antony for example, the club knew a lot about him and he was thoroughly scouted. It was the club that fecked up the fee on top.

If you take our CF situation, Ten Hag wanted Kane but the club didn't want to go in that direction. The club's own suggestions of Kolo Muani and Goncalo Ramos were arguably just as poor as Ten Hag's own preference for Hojlund.

I say this with kindness but if there is one thing I will never do again in my life it is going back to having conversations about Ten Hag with you :lol:
 
I say this with kindness but if there is one thing I will never do again in my life it is going back to having conversations about Ten Hag with you :lol:
That's fine, but lets not actively make things up. This is actually not really a Ten Hag specific issue but an ongoing one over the last decade. I don't know why people want to act like the reign under him for transfers was something new.


We threw money away long before Ten Hag and if it wasn't for the structural change (Thank god), we'd have wasted money long after too.
 
That's fine, but lets not actively make things up. This is actually not really a Ten Hag specific issue but an ongoing one over the last decade. I don't know why people want to act like the reign under him for transfers was something new.


We threw money away long before Ten Hag and if it wasn't for the structural change (Thank god), we'd have wasted money long after too.

:)
 
Of all the signings we've made in the last few years, he was certainly one of them
 
Very interesting considering it is inaccurate. Ten hag did not have ''full final say''. The decisions were always joint between manager and club with equal veto right.

And yes, the old board is completely and utterly to blame as much as Ten Hag was (arguably more so given it's their territory for talent identification), because they failed to provide reasonable alternatives to Ten Hag's own suggestions. If you take Antony for example, the club knew a lot about him and he was thoroughly scouted. It was the club that fecked up the fee on top.

If you take our CF situation, Ten Hag wanted Kane but the club didn't want to go in that direction. The club's own suggestions of Kolo Muani and Goncalo Ramos were arguably just as poor as Ten Hag's own preference for Hojlund.

If it wasn't true why then did Ineos attempt to renegotiate on his contract in the summer and then widely reported that he retained full final veto on transfers?

Yes the club scouts valued Antony at max 25 million I think, but they had a transfer shortlist for Ten hag that summer. I think it was Pau Torress and Bastoni for defenders, Declan Rice and Bissouma for midfield, and Nunez for spiker, and it was reported the board/scouts were not fully on board with making Martinez a priority, remember we were suppose to sign Timber but LVG advised him to stay at Ajax for another season as he didn't believe he would get much game time for the international squad.

So Ten hag ignored the scouts alternative recommendations and targeted his own men from Ajax even when his first choice target Timber fell through. Those transfers were only possible because he had final say. Which is why we spent the whole summer doing everything we could to sign De Jong even when the player made it clear he had no interest in leaving Barca. Murtough and Arnold didn't make the decisions on instructions from the scouts to fly to spain and waste their resources chasing an unattainable player. They were ordered by Ten hag to get him and keep going and going until we were desperately left with no time but to sign Casmerio on a 5 year deal, which the board can be blamed for.

As for signing Antony, we didn't need him we already had sancho and elanga for that position, so why would the scouts have alternatives for that position?

And lets not forget Ten hag turned down the chance of working with Ratcliffe who had given the board much better targets before hand.
 
Part of me is hoping we get forced into giving Amass a go at left back. Really think he could step up to the challenge and there's not as much defensive responsibility at LWB as there is at LB. He's such a smart and neat player to watch and has a really good cross on him unlike virtually every one of our wide players. Played a beauty yesterday in the FAYC.
Whilst I agree that Amass as a LWB would be good it will require Martinez as LCB to play much better than he has been doing, otherwise that left side will be very problematic defensively
 
Pointless to let him go. Stupid decision.

He's the perfect squad player on low wages and seems to be a great character too. He's basically a left-footed AWB who's a bit inferior at the defending aspect itself (because he doesn't have the spider legs) but makes up with his press-resistance and inverting abilities. The perfect full-back to have around for games or game-states where you need to lock a very good winger down like he did with Saka.

I hope he has a future at United and this loan is only to get him game time.