klayton88
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Don't save him he don't wanna be saved.Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice… I can’t be fooled again!
Don't save him he don't wanna be saved.Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice… I can’t be fooled again!
Classic Bush
Feel like we can squeeze out a little more. But yeah, either way, it means we pay lesser for Carreras who would be so much of an upgrade.We're getting nowhere near 10-12m, it'll be more like 3-4m.
Careful, say that phrase three times and @horsechoker appears wielding his collection of 1970s grot mags.Classic Bush
Has to be. Loan or permanent I wonder.It would be bonkers to loan him out without getting someone else in. Surely this means someone is coming in???
We did this last year as well.Manchester United have no left back, and are somehow selling a left back. This surely means we are signing a left back.
Well we play with wingbacks so Amorim probably doesn't think Malacia fits that role and also doesn't see him as LCB. So even if he was to stay he possibly wouldn't be given chances at LWB. But I too hope this means we'll get 1 wingback this month, at least on loan.Manchester United have no left back, and are somehow selling a left back. This surely means we are signing a left back.
I agree. Obviously leaving ourselves short isn’t ideal but in my view we have to take the opportunities to move players on who aren’t good enough when they come along. He falls into that category.If some club wants to take him with an obligation then take it.
Even if it leaves us short for a few month, the more work we can get done with outgoings before the summer window the better imo.
Part of me is hoping we get forced into giving Amass a go at left back. Really think he could step up to the challenge and there's not as much defensive responsibility at LWB as there is at LB. He's such a smart and neat player to watch and has a really good cross on him unlike virtually every one of our wide players. Played a beauty yesterday in the FAYC.I agree. Obviously leaving ourselves short isn’t ideal but in my view we have to take the opportunities to move players on who aren’t good enough when they come along. He falls into that category.
It would be bonkers to loan him out without getting someone else in. Surely this means someone is coming in???
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I think I remember he was signed because Ten Hag was impressed with how he pocketed Antony, when Ajax played Feyenoord
The left back position should have been addressed in the summer it was madness to into the season with Shaw, Mazarioui and malacia as the only guys who are specialists for that position. It was obvious from Malacia first season before he picked up the major injury that was never going to be good enough for this level.
I think I remember he was signed because Ten Hag was impressed with how he pocketed Antony, when Ajax played Feyenoord
Good news. Injury issues aside, not good enough for a mid-table EPL team. If one made a list of post- Ferguson left fullbacks, it would look like something like this:
1. Shawberto Carlos
2. D. Blind
3. A. Young
4. B. Williams
5. C. Borthwick-Jackson
6. Reguilon
7. Malacia
That's amusing if so. This club has been irrevocably damaged by the simple fact that Ten Hag didn't realise that the Dutch league is rubbish.
Giving him full final say veto power was the biggest mistake since Ten Hag's talent ID has always been poor even when he managed FC Uretete he made terrible signings for them. Every club he's been at he's either brought in 2 or 3 former players or just brought in plain journeyman duds like Quincy Promes, Labylad,Babel, Haller
At Ajax it was Overmars and Van Dar Sar who were mainly responsible for identifying talent For Ajax. it was definitely Overmars who was responsible for the signings of De Jong, Onana, Ziiyech, Tagliafico, Antony, Martinez, Alverezand Tadic who were key players for the ajax team that reached the CL semi final
But can't blame the old board too much because he gave them the ultimatum that unless he had the veto power he wouldn't sign up for the job and everyone thought he was the next second coming of Pep
Giving him full final say veto power was the biggest mistake since Ten Hag's talent ID has always been poor even when he managed FC Uretete he made terrible signings for them. Every club he's been at he's either brought in 2 or 3 former players or just brought in plain journeyman duds like Quincy Promes, Labylad,Babel, Haller
At Ajax it was Overmars and Van Dar Sar who were mainly responsible for identifying talent For Ajax. it was definitely Overmars who was responsible for the signings of De Jong, Onana, Ziiyech, Tagliafico, Antony, Martinez, Alverezand Tadic who were key players for the ajax team that reached the CL semi final
But can't blame the old board too much because he gave them the ultimatum that unless he had the veto power he wouldn't sign up for the job and everyone thought he was the next second coming of Pep
Interesting insights mate
Very interesting considering it is inaccurate. Ten hag did not have ''full final say''. The decisions were always joint between manager and club with equal veto right.
And yes, the old board is completely and utterly to blame as much as Ten Hag was (arguably more so given it's their territory for talent identification), because they failed to provide reasonable alternatives to Ten Hag's own suggestions. If you take Antony for example, the club knew a lot about him and he was thoroughly scouted. It was the club that fecked up the fee on top.
If you take our CF situation, Ten Hag wanted Kane but the club didn't want to go in that direction. The club's own suggestions of Kolo Muani and Goncalo Ramos were arguably just as poor as Ten Hag's own preference for Hojlund.
That's fine, but lets not actively make things up. This is actually not really a Ten Hag specific issue but an ongoing one over the last decade. I don't know why people want to act like the reign under him for transfers was something new.I say this with kindness but if there is one thing I will never do again in my life it is going back to having conversations about Ten Hag with you
That's fine, but lets not actively make things up. This is actually not really a Ten Hag specific issue but an ongoing one over the last decade. I don't know why people want to act like the reign under him for transfers was something new.
We threw money away long before Ten Hag and if it wasn't for the structural change (Thank god), we'd have wasted money long after too.
Very interesting considering it is inaccurate. Ten hag did not have ''full final say''. The decisions were always joint between manager and club with equal veto right.
And yes, the old board is completely and utterly to blame as much as Ten Hag was (arguably more so given it's their territory for talent identification), because they failed to provide reasonable alternatives to Ten Hag's own suggestions. If you take Antony for example, the club knew a lot about him and he was thoroughly scouted. It was the club that fecked up the fee on top.
If you take our CF situation, Ten Hag wanted Kane but the club didn't want to go in that direction. The club's own suggestions of Kolo Muani and Goncalo Ramos were arguably just as poor as Ten Hag's own preference for Hojlund.
FixedHas to be. Leon or permanent I wonder.
Whilst I agree that Amass as a LWB would be good it will require Martinez as LCB to play much better than he has been doing, otherwise that left side will be very problematic defensivelyPart of me is hoping we get forced into giving Amass a go at left back. Really think he could step up to the challenge and there's not as much defensive responsibility at LWB as there is at LB. He's such a smart and neat player to watch and has a really good cross on him unlike virtually every one of our wide players. Played a beauty yesterday in the FAYC.