Tyrell Malacia | Man Utd player

"He is not that far, but he is now in a progress situation. At a relatively short notice, he can again return into team training and then into team performance in games.

"I think it would be possible (for Malacia to return) in two months."
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RDCR07 said:
What the hell did he suffer to be out for more than 12 months?
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Maybe in this thread but maybe somewhere else on the forum, the rumour is that he had a knee issue and went against the clubs advice and rather than using an approved surgeon, used his own surgeon and they butchered his knee and now he’s dealing with meniscus issues.
 
Don't know why people wrote him off, I think he was quite good.
Transfermarkt says he's had a knee injury since 18th July 2023. And I remember there was a match where he forced himself to play.
 
Pexbo said:
Maybe in this thread but maybe somewhere else on the forum, the rumour is that he had a knee issue and went against the clubs advice and rather than using an approved surgeon, used his own surgeon and they butchered his knee and now he’s dealing with meniscus issues.
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You don’t need hindsight to know that was dumb.
 
Pexbo said:
Maybe in this thread but maybe somewhere else on the forum, the rumour is that he had a knee issue and went against the clubs advice and rather than using an approved surgeon, used his own surgeon and they butchered his knee and now he’s dealing with meniscus issues.
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Not just rumours, reported in The Athletic. Truncated account from the article:

United proposed a surgeon in London but Malacia wished to undergo treatment in the Netherlands with his own choice of surgeon. United agreed to that request and Malacia travelled home for the operation, which was conducted outside of the club’s oversight.

Yet scans on the affected knee had revealed that small fragments of cartilage remained around the meniscus.

A decision was taken to proceed with corrective surgery. The operation was carried out in November by the same surgeon responsible for the first, with representatives from United overseeing it.

At United, there are questions over Malacia’s visit to the Netherlands last summer and whether the correct procedures were followed in the initial stages of his rehabilitation while the player was not under the club’s watch. Malacia failed to contact the club and update them on his progress regularly.

Those close to Malacia admit the player did not regularly communicate with the club while in the Netherlands, but insist that he did not do any training or rehabilitation work last summer as he was still walking on crutches and recovering from surgery.

Rather than any missteps in the initial stages of his rehabilitation, others, at least partly, put Malacia’s delayed return down to United’s medical department not always having the capacity to give the player the level of attention required.

United’s busy schedule of fixtures, particularly in the first half of the campaign, is said to have meant that Malacia was at times only able to take part in rehabilitation work four days a week, with the other three taken up by matches or staff days off.

This season’s consistently long injury list at Old Trafford has been a factor, sometimes stretching the medical department’s resources. Sources, speaking on condition of anonymity to protect relationships, have indicated that other players set to return sooner have sometimes had to take priority over Malacia.
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Players being able to choose their own surgeons and be unsupervised is rather wild. On top of that, why do we not have a more robust medical department to oversee recovery? We have had injury nightmares since Fergie days.
 

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After last season’s 66 injuries, the setbacks for Yoro and Højlund are particular blows, but Ten Hag, who thinks Tyrell Malacia may be available in two months, offers a shrug when quizzed about their impact.
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That sounds positive.
 
pcaming said:
Players being able to choose their own surgeons and be unsupervised is rather wild. On top of that, why do we not have a more robust medical department to oversee recovery? We have had injury nightmares since Fergie days.
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It’s common for all clubs to do this, many have doctors they use regularly. If you’re one of the best surgeons in the world for a specific body part, you ain’t working for a football club as a PAYE employee, you’re running a specialist clinic somewhere.

I’m a bit hesitant to believe the last bit about not being enough staff. Think that’s a bit of a hook to enrage United fans, we’d hardly be giving people days off when the workload was too high. These players are worth multiple millions as assets, it would cost peanuts to hire a few more physios etc.
 
I'm calling it,he's finished at the top level unfortunately imo judging by the way he looks in those MUTV clips.Thought he was more than decent for us when he played with more to come.
Real shame.
 
Ready in two months is absolutely farcical. Get rid and buy a new stable available LB that doesn't go against the club's advice. I'm staggered he wanted a different surgeon. As if he's a qualified medical doctor with years of study.
 
You spend millions to buy a player out of his contract, you pay millions to him in wages and he goes and have surgery//rehabilitation unsupervised. That's unacceptable. There should be contractual consequences for these things.
 
despairingfool said:
Ready in two months is absolutely farcical. Get rid and buy a new stable available LB that doesn't go against the club's advice. I'm staggered he wanted a different surgeon. As if he's a qualified medical doctor with years of study.
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What do you mean “get rid”?
 
Adisa said:
You spend millions to buy a player out of his contract, you pay millions to him in wages and he goes and have surgery//rehabilitation unsupervised. That's unacceptable. There should be contractual consequences for these things.
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United agreed to it though. Its not like he did it behind their back
 
Adisa said:
You spend millions to buy a player out of his contract, you pay millions to him in wages and he goes and have surgery//rehabilitation unsupervised. That's unacceptable. There should be contractual consequences for these things.
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You’re making out he sneaked out of the back door of Carrington and onto a surgeons table :lol:
The article snippet you’ve literally just read states clearly that the club agreed to it.

What should be learned from this is that the club in future shouldn’t agree, and should ensure that all player operations are arranged and coordinated by the club’s medical team. It’s not a lesson for the player here, but for the club.
 
I can only assume he’s had setback after setback
Sassy Colin said:
Like most newspaper articles, a potted history of everything that's been going on at United for the last few months, then a line or 2 about what's actually in the headline.
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You broke the code!
 
-We bought him for 13 million

-He's on reasonable wages

-He was decent whenever he played

-Can play the inverted full-back role on both sides of the pitch

-Seems to have a very good mental profile too

But yeah let's get rid of him, in typical whining RedCafe fashion

He's a good player that we can turn into a 40m full-back and/or he can be a great servant for the club for many years, if he can come back from this injury, and it remains to be seen whether that's the case or not. People wanting him sold are just frustrated and don't know much about squad building.

And who would even buy him right now? We'll just bin a potentially very good PL fullback for 5 million (if we could even get 5m) because some posters on RedCafe are angry...not to mention that it would be a shitty thing to do. Help him with his rehabilitation and help him restart his career ideally at United, or somewhere else if it has to come to that. I don't want us to be assholes with players who don't deserve it, it's a classless thing to do.

Leave that behavior to the likes of Chelsea who have just banished Chalobah and Gallagher from their squad because selling them will let the club spend a lot of money on 17 year old Brazilians. Two players who have been with the club almost their whole life, 2007 and 2008 respectively.
 
tomaldinho1 said:
It’s common for all clubs to do this, many have doctors they use regularly. If you’re one of the best surgeons in the world for a specific body part, you ain’t working for a football club as a PAYE employee, you’re running a specialist clinic somewhere.

I’m a bit hesitant to believe the last bit about not being enough staff. Think that’s a bit of a hook to enrage United fans, we’d hardly be giving people days off when the workload was too high. These players are worth multiple millions as assets, it would cost peanuts to hire a few more physios etc.
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I don't expect us to have surgeons on hand, but staff being able to use doctors that are unknown to the club is crazy. I would expect that some form of validation is being done.
 
He is finished. Mildly interested to know why he went to some other surgeon? His mate or something? Whatever the case, at least he cost next to nothing relatively. He was decent for a while as well.
 
I dont think he is finished by any means. Its a serious injury but we've seen many players recover from injuries just as bad if not worse.
 
pcaming said:
Players being able to choose their own surgeons and be unsupervised is rather wild. On top of that, why do we not have a more robust medical department to oversee recovery? We have had injury nightmares since Fergie days.
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It's their fecking body, of course they choose what to do with it. Whether it's a good decision to go against the suggestion of the club is an other topic.
 
Guapa said:
I'm calling it,he's finished at the top level unfortunately imo judging by the way he looks in those MUTV clips.Thought he was more than decent for us when he played with more to come.
Real shame.
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Based on what clips? Of him working on getting back to fitness? Cause he was pretty alright as a back-up before he got injured, and he obviously has never been in any kind of shape to play matches since then. So I have no idea what you're watching that can tell you his level once he's gotten back to match fitness.
despairingfool said:
Ready in two months is absolutely farcical. Get rid and buy a new stable available LB that doesn't go against the club's advice. I'm staggered he wanted a different surgeon. As if he's a qualified medical doctor with years of study.
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He's not, but the club's staff agreed, so apparently what he asked for wasn't unreasonable. It's easy to judjge in retrospect, but not everything has to be understood in hyperboles, you know.
 
ArbeitervonWien said:
It's their fecking body, of course they choose what to do with it. Whether it's a good decision to go against the suggestion of the club is an other topic.
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Well yes, but also the club is paying for it so why would consultation not take place?

I'm not advocating for the club to force someone to do anything, but surely just going off on your own to do surgery wherever you feel like is something that should be better communicated and managed at this level. Especially to prevent something like this where it wasn't done properly...
 
Rojofiam said:
Leave that behavior to the likes of Chelsea who have just banished Chalobah and Gallagher from their squad because selling them will let the club spend a lot of money on 17 year old Brazilians. Two players who have been with the club almost their whole life, 2007 and 2008 respectively.
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That is the way how you sell players. That is how most of clubs operate. Well, at least those who are good in selling.
 
Gandalf said:
Clearly the accurately named poster means we should sell him to one of the many clubs queuing up to buy an injured player who has not played in over a year. The bidding frenzy his availability would spark could fund our entire transfer window!
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Yeah that’s what I thought, another fan who thinks it’s like playing foot football manager
 
Andycoleno9 said:
That is the way how you sell players. That is how most of clubs operate. Well, at least those who are good in selling.
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To clarify, those clubs whose owners believe that generating profit for shareholders takes priority over winning games operate that way. Congrats to Clearlake on winning prettiest balance sheet of the season, shame the match going fans don't get to share in that as the players they feel a connection with are binned off to pay for South American wonderkids who don't have a clue about the club and in most cases will never even play for them.
 
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