I have to admit something. I kinda like Keanu Reeves. He's done some good stuff. And some.. other stuff.
Two more Matrix films announced?
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Because I like movies to be subtle when trying to be cerebral. But as I said before... I loved Matrix, but you're the one looking far more into this film than anyone else... and claiming the vast majority didn't get it. I'm pointing out it wasn't particularly philosophical...and as Mike suggested you should read a book or something, if you think it was. Most of us agree it was a great action flick, with brilliant effects and a decent storyline...whereas the other two failed epically. And that's it really.
Fair enough. I'm not telling you not to like it, I'm just telling you not to tell me I'd like it if I paid more attention...which you DID say (though not to me)
That's all....but hey. Sorry for being a bit over zealous.
Sorry, I was having a go at the film (and I suppose the post) as opposed to the poster. Nothing personal intended...the 'dude' bit was probably a bit facetious, but it went nicely with the rant.
Now don't go backing down. You've been no more aggressive than they have.
Balls. My champagne gag got lost on the previous page 
Now that bolded bit would be special
Aye on second read that doesn't come across well, what people enjoy is up to them though I think what I am trying to say is that perhaps you'd appreciate the craft of what they have actually achieved in terms of writing.
I have said time and time again that as far as blockbusters go I can understand it's not to everyones liking and it's definitely not an easy watch. I just think people dismiss it far to easily as "rubbish" when there is more to it than just an "action flick".
Balls. My champagne gag got lost on the previous page
That's because we're not poncy champagne drinkers.
Remember that stupid long dance/sex scene in the second one? Man that was a shit film.
You mean the one that beautifully contrasted the harsh orderly mechanichism of the machines that were soullessly heading towards them?
I think I actually liked the second and third one at the time, can't for the life of me remember anything about them though so I guess they were pretty forgettable in the end.
He's not actually human
Crazy considering some of The Events that have happens in his life. He should look about 90.
Yeah! Haha, fecking awful, awful film.
You mean the one that beautifully contrasted the harsh orderly mechanichism of the machines that were soullessly heading towards them?
Well if that was what they were going for then it utterly failed given how clinical and lacking in any energy the scene was. It looked like an episode of Ibiza Holiday Reps set in a novelty Santa's grotto, all filmed in tortuous slow motion.
Slow motion makes every thing cool Mike. When we're running a bit short for time, we should just end every scene with a slow motion walk away.
Sadly underwriting doesn't seem to be our strength. Write door dings.
This is a positive thing for potential sequels, naturally. The problem of course is that Keanu is impervious to 3D. Being so one dimensional as an actor that an added extra dimension will only boost him up to 2D.
Sadly underwriting doesn't seem to be our strength. Write door dings.
This is a positive thing for potential sequels, naturally. The problem of course is that Keanu is impervious to 3D. Being so one dimensional as an actor that an added extra dimension will only boost him up to 2D.
No he was right with his description.You mean the one that beautifully contrasted the harsh orderly mechanichism of the machines that were soullessly heading towards them?
Man, both those sequels sucked.
WTF am I reading here? Inception shit, Dark Knight most overrated film ever.. Of course the experts here could do better..
I do think anyone that dislikes a Nolan (written) film ought to be fired out of some form of cannon, it has to be said. Have been wanting to rewatch the Prestige for a couple of weeks but can't find my dvd (and am too cheap to pay £2.99 for a new one), which annoys me greatly.
WTF am I reading here? Inception shit, Dark Knight most overrated film ever.. Of course the experts here could do better..
Inception is overrated though, and a bit of a waste of a good concept. It's a good film though. The Dark Knight is a great action movie but not really one of the greatest movies of all time like many people say it is.
I'm not his biggest fan and I always have a hard time explaining why. It's like he makes the audience think his movies are really clever and genius when they're actually not. They're usually action movies masquerading as something else.
They may be overrated by people (which lets face it happens with every movie) but they are still great movies.. Let's just say they're not for a second, theres no way Dark Knight is one of the most overrated films 'ever'. It's these sensationalistic comments that do it.
The Dark Knight is shit. Sure, it's not Phantom Menace shit, but shit it is.
History will prove me right, fellas. The only films that stand the test of time are those with a strong story/plot and an interesting protagonist. The Dark Knight's story is vacant, and it's protagonist spends most of the film mumbling
This disappoints me so greatly being that it was made by a film-maker who has the ability to craft mind-bending, clever plot lines when he applies himself.
History will prove me right, fellas. The only films that stand the test of time are those with a strong story/plot and an interesting protagonist. The Dark Knight's story is vacant, and it's protagonist spends most of the film mumbling
This disappoints me so greatly being that it was made by a film-maker who has the ability to craft mind-bending, clever plot lines when he applies himself.
I was a massive Matrix nerd back when it came out. I didn't hate the sequels, but they certainly didn't live up to the original. Haven't watched any of them in a few years though. May have to watch them again, now that I'm probably more neutral in my thoughts on the Matrix.
This is easily the best post on this forum I've read in 2011.
Yup. The Dark Knight is cack. Probably the best of the superhero genre (I can't think of a better one anyway, all the spider/superman films have been utter shite) but cack all the same.
It's hard not to remember it. It consumed the entire first hour of the film
when you consider how wack batman films usually are, Dark Knight was pretty good, I enjoyed it
Dark Knight is decent, that scene on the two boats is dumb though, as if they wouldn't have blown each other up.
Yea, in terms of realism, this is where that film made me stop believing. I thought it was a documentary up until that point.
TDK was overhyped due to the Heath Ledger death and its as pure and simple as that, still a very good watch mind and miles ahead of any of the Matrix sequels.
The original matrix would piss over any Batman film though.
The original matrix would piss over any Batman film though.
Can anyone explain why Dark Knight was 'shit'.
Didn't do much for me.
I preffered Batman Begins myself. I wouldn't call the Dark Knight shit though, it was alright until the ridiculous sensor thing at the end that made absolutely no sense whatsoever.
My main qualms were the lack of any kind of back story for Ledger's over-rated Joker, as I described earlier in this thread...
And secondly, the lack of an enthralling, interesting plot.
Now, the first point is objective - Nolan breaks the golden rule of super-hero/villain character development and gives Joker NO back story at all, no one could deny that, but he has thus far gotten away with it.
The second point - the plot - is subjective I know, and it does seem that the vast majority of the public didn't have any problems getting into the plot, and even hailing it as a 'classic superhero' movie.
I've never found myself to have such a divide with the generally accepted view of a film before in my life, and I'm interested to see how people react to the film on second and third viewings. I'm not too sure the film will age as well as some might expect. But we'll have to wait and see.
Another poster asked me what I think is the best Batman movie, my answer, in no order...
Batman (1989 Tim Burton)
Batman Begins
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
Jack Nicholson in full crazy eyebrow mode and a Prince soundtrack. You can't beat that.
It's a very good movie. But the IMDB ranked it among the very best such as Shawshanks' redemption, Godfather. TDK pales in comparison compared to those, so it's just overrated, but still a very good one
That was part of his mystique, he was supposed to be chaotic and knowing why he was chaotic would have given him a weakness because you could somehow relate to him.
He furthers this when he tells us how he got his scars:
You then think, "Oh you poor man, I can see why you are fecked up. That's horrific"
Then later he say's:
After he said this you think "Wait a minute... you're just a manipulative c*nt"