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We could buy Everton and Newcastle with 200 mil.
We've heard it all before. Time to pony up.
evra knows he can t afford to play 50 games next season while Shaw will have to accept that playing 25 games in your first season at OT is something to be proud of. (assuming Shaw really signs for us cause Chelsea getting loads of cash for a funnier version of slideshow bob has made me nervous)Doubt either Evra or Shaw will be happy to be back up next season.
I live in Southampton and I agree with you. Shaw is 100% good enough to start for us regularly. But we've seen many times before young players burning out because they've played 40-50 games a season for 8 years by the time they are 26. It's just too much football. Shaw, just like Rafael, can be eased into the role. And even then he will get 25 games next season atleast.I have rather Evra as back-up than Buttner and it's important we have someone with experience/leadership in the defence (after Vidic and Ferdinand) so i agree
But i have seen 20-25 Southampton games last season (My mum lives there) and Shaw is 100% ready for us, biggest english talent in my opinion
Evra's time is over at Old Trafford......i love Paddy......but he was average in the last 2 years
And for me it's very important that we're playing the same back-four for 75% of the games, that was one of our big problems in the last 2-3 years......we have changed to much our defence
And for me it's very important that we're playing the same back-four for 75% of the games, that was one of our big problems in the last 2-3 years......we have changed to much our defence
We all knew that yesterday.Ogden also said we had a deal in place for Kroos but LVG pulled the plug.
We all knew that yesterday.
I know mate, Ogden was just confirming it. I know people were saying we pulled out because he wouldn't come here.
I live in Southampton and I agree with you. Shaw is 100% good enough to start for us regularly. But we've seen many times before young players burning out because they've played 40-50 games a season for 8 years by the time they are 26. It's just too much football. Shaw, just like Rafael, can be eased into the role. And even then he will get 25 games next season atleast.
And I agree with you about Evra being on a downward spiral for a good few years now. However I think that is down to the sheer number of games he has played in the last 8 years (another reason we don't want to give Shaw too many games too early). If Evra gets to share that role it's a real chance his performances may go up. I know he's much older but getting that increased rest will be beneficial for his performances.
There are way more positives than negatives in keeping Evra and still getting Shaw imo. Experience, leadership, role model, he loves the club. Less games so hopefully performances go up and if they don't, well we have Shaw don't we?
It's a headache I'd rather have as a manager. Definitely preferable to Alexander 'positional sense? What's that?' Buttner.
You know Bitterne? You're local aswell right? Where abouts?Where abouts in Southampton do you live?
Igor Drefljak said:It's becoming a joke...
I left a United mock team yesterday on a whiteboard for my work mate to see today (Liveprool fan) Team included Kroos and a few others.
Called me today and said, I've changed Kroos for McCarthy...
I assume the McCarthy thing wasn't legit as sky got rid of it, but hey
Yeah I know bitterne, used to be a member of pure gym. I've just moved to Hedge End village from Eastleigh.You know Bitterne? You're local aswell right? Where abouts?
Ogden also said we had a deal in place for Kroos but LVG pulled the plug.
Can your mate play midfield?
Moving from Eastleigh is always going up in the world. Haha. It's nice down here. I used to go pure gym aswell. Bitterne leisure centre now.Yeah I know bitterne, used to be a member of pure gym. I've just moved to Hedge End village from Eastleigh.
Yeah I agree. Some right fecking Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime in beastleigh, glad to be rid of the place.Moving from Eastleigh is always going up in the world. Haha. It's nice down here. I used to go pure gym aswell. Bitterne leisure centre now.
I'm not getting why, when we are absolutely screwed in central midfield that we would pull out. There isn't a better alternative. Unless he thinks that we can get Vidal, Strootman, Gundogan, Pogba or Fabregas I don't see how we could do better. Makes no sense to me.Christ above if that is actually true! I thought Moyes apparently pulling the plug on the Thiago transfer was bad but this would take it to a whole new level!
I'm not getting why, when we are absolutely screwed in central midfield that we would pull out. There isn't a better alternative. Unless he thinks that we can get Vidal, Strootman, Gundogan, Pogba or Fabregas I don't see how we could do better. Makes no sense to me.
Surprised Palace let Chamakh go
I'm genuinely surprised they let Speroni go. He was excellent last season.
I'm not getting why, when we are absolutely screwed in central midfield that we would pull out. There isn't a better alternative. Unless he thinks that we can get Vidal, Strootman, Gundogan, Pogba or Fabregas I don't see how we could do better. Makes no sense to me.
I get what you mean but if its LVG's call, I'm far more comfortable. That means it wasn't ineptitude on our part, that the Glazers ARE willing to spend on quality, and that LVG has a vision already on what he wants his team to be. It took Moyes a long time to figure that out and we suffered for it. It could still prove to be a bad decision, of course, but he should get a chance to make the team his own. And I say this as a huge Kroos fan.I'm not getting why, when we are absolutely screwed in central midfield that we would pull out. There isn't a better alternative. Unless he thinks that we can get Vidal, Strootman, Gundogan, Pogba or Fabregas I don't see how we could do better. Makes no sense to me.
Probably because he's not Northern based!
Since when?Well he's supposed to be by now... that's the point.
Probably because he's not Northern based!
Umm.. He's supposed to be in Manchester moving in by now. They've been house-hunting and all that. Besides he's going to be a "northern-based" player won't he?
His parents were housing hunting, not him.
House hunting for whom do you reckon?
Difference is that LVG knows Kroos. If he doesn't think he will fit into his team, then what do we know?Christ above if that is actually true! I thought Moyes apparently pulling the plug on the Thiago transfer was bad but this would take it to a whole new level!
To be fair Evra isn't much better these days.I'm glad Evra's staying on, Worst Case Scenario: we won't be left with just Buttner at the start of next season should Woodward screw up the Shaw deal!