Okay, name a player of similar quality who went for far less? Fabregas and Kroos are both world class (though not on Di Maria's level despite being in different positions), but Kroos had only a year left on his contract while Fabregas just wasn't performing that well in a Barca shirt. Di Maria on the other hand was one of Madrids best players and their MotM in the final of the Champions league along with pretty much always stepping up in the big games.
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what do you think is a fair price for di maria then?
Me too, but signing up and comers for top clubs is for those who have a good amount of strong, established stars in all departments and you can filter in the young ones to give them experience bit by bit; we don't have that. Our only position where we can claim to have more than one top player is our forwards, and when you go to break down every other position, it actually makes for bleak reading. We have lost 4 incredibly valuable leaders this summer, and they have only been replaced by 2 players, both of which are young and not the leaders that we do need to bring in (Herrera does have a sense of leadership in the middle I feel, but as a foreigner he may take a bit to adapt into a leader role).
Di Maria would come in as an already established player, and the chances are he would hit the ground running, needing no further development as he is most probably at his peak. I would love to see him here; it would remind the fans what we have been missing on the wings for so many years.
I think what gets affected by no champions league is the wages more than the fee, as we are convincing players to miss at least one season of CL to come here so a premium will be added. But the desperation and Woody's bigballs announcement of "we can break the record transfer fee" won't help keep the price down.
Feck banning specific accounts, can we just ban all tweets regarding Fredy Guarin?
and while we're at it, everything that comes from the Express.For someone who has barely managed 10 goals a season and maybe got 20 assists last year? I think anything between £30m-£35m is fair, maybe £40m at a push. I'm never going to regard a 10 goal + 20 assists a season (in 50 games) player as worth anything near £50m, or consider that to be world class. That's a very good record, world class? Not for me and I'd bet that half the people on this place wouldn't be going about him if he hadn't put in that performance in the champions league final and before anyone asks yes I've watched him extensively (I had free access to Real Madrid tv) and that's just my judgement of him. Feel free to disagree.
Before last season people would have been happy to see him go for £30-35 million, and he would have been worth that. Coming off a season where he was arguably Madrid's most effective player and was a top 3 performer in almost every big game too, then of course £10 million is going to be added on.
But if you want to quote me a transfer like that, where a player has:
- Come off a season as one of the team's best players
- Has 4 years left on his contract
- Has not complained about leaving publicly or handed in a transfer request
Looks like we've got a hostage situation to add to our third party issues.
Kroos isn't on his level? Come again? Kroos is a level above Di Maria. I think with that I'm out of this thread. It's far to late for me to get into a back and forth with what I'm sure will be multiple posters berating me for not rating Di Maria as a £50m player or god forbid for rating Kroos above him.
We really dodged a bullet with Fabregas didn't we.
Feck's sake.
Feck's sake.
I've lost count of the number of times this exact twat has been twatted over the past couple of months. Must be 15 or 20 times?
If we were league or champions league winners and buying from a position of power then we can get him for around £40m but in our position, he is worth £50m to us.
He is so good buying him alone would allow us to effectively play a 433.
Rojo and Blind could both do a job but would still be quite underwhelming in a summer where we had been told to expect spending like never before. Di Maria/Vidal would go a long way, even if we have once again looked like utter amateurs.
Listen, I'm really not going to sit here at 11.43pm and look up players who fit that criteria, I simply just don't think he's worth that much for what he produces per season, let's agree to disagree. If we get him, great, he'll improve us, I would just hope it's not at that price, that's all.
Night.
Agreed.
With Fletcher, Herrera, Cleverley, Kagawa or Fellaini, that's simply suicidal. I mean I know Valencia is bad, but I'd rather see him week in week out on the right than seeing Fletcher as our starting DM.
That's fair, but I just hope that the £48 million doesn't burn too much of a hole through your pockets.
Sleep well.
Kroos is a great player but he really isn't a level above Di Maria, at all. As good as he is, he's overrated by loads of people on here and pretty much every single Bayern supporter here has said the same thing. Thiago was better for Bayern last season and is more talented, even if he's not on his level yet, schweinsteiger is also a better player of course. He's a great player and his passing is as good as anyone's today, and he would obviously walk into any team, but so would Di Maria. Fair enough if you think Kroos is better, not sure how many people would agree, but going off last season, Di Maria was better without a doubt.
I know. It's just seeing in written in detail and in the grand scope of things. Just puts it into perspective.
Ah, there it is - the inevitable, comical feck-up
We don't need to be banned. Woodward's incompetence does that automatically.
Not only that but we need an urgent injectin of quality in all phases. If it were me I would gladly spend £100m on Di Maria, Benatia and a cheap DM like De Jong to stabilize the team and release the latent offensive power lying idle in the team. With a pacey outlet Mata comes into his own, Rooney and RvP would score lots whilst the backline becomes more solid. Go all in now to return the team onto a growth trajectory and halt the decline.
My pockets? You're hilarious.
Maybe it's because growing up, I didn't have much money, so I tend to be tighter with it and spend it wisely and to me this is the team I love, so I'd rather we didn't waste money because we're not going to get bailed out by an oligarch if things go tits up. Maybe I'm far too cautious and maybe you're a better fan than I, for wanting the club to spend more lavishly but like I said this discussion will get nowhere, so let's end it amicably.
More like Ed wasn't prepared to pay for the late night flight and told him to get the cheaper early morning flight.
Look at the positives; if we signed Blind then we'd get to see Cleverley and Fellaini in midfield even less than we do now.
Relax, I'm not jesting at you specifically, but a lot of fans tend to be concerned a lot, sometimes too much, on transfer fees. Yes, if we spend £4 million more on Fellaini than we could have, then there is a right to be bemused and annoyed. But when a top, top player like Di Maria comes along and we can get him for £8 million more than you think he is worth, then we really shouldn't be too worried about it. The owners are worth Billions, and the revenue stream is one of the largest in the sporting world too. This is the modern day, and the biggest clubs are all spending big to compete, and we can either stick to our original methods or get with the times.
My views, your views. They are different, and quite frankly, they don't make a world of difference on the choices made by the top dogs, so it shall be left alone.
The negative is we could be saying the same about Blind next year, when we wanting another midfielder.
I used to be a bit worried about that and for average players or just squad players I still hope we don't waste money or overspend. With world class players though, at this point, given how much we'll be making with the new kit deal as well, I really don't care how much we spend. We absolutely need to throw money at them to bring them in because we have so many shit to average players that we've wasted money on these last 5 years it's ridiculous. Even our big signings you could say were a waste of money and would be better spent elsewhere (Van Persie and Mata).
What the hell is going on?!?!?!
F**k this! We can't even sort out an average player to join the club....
I read about the second title. If so, make it big both outside AND inside the stadium so that no Glazer nor Woodward will feel safe at all.
Some great shots by PI ALFA back then.
Right lads, who broke our interest in Rojo first then? Must have been a good 2 weeks ago now.
I think people picked up on Rojo following an array of our players on Instagram, most of us scoffed at the link then.
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