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walsh said:
Love how some of you just assume Woodward is solely responsible and it's nothing to do with who van Gaal has or hasn't asked him to buy.
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Woody deserves a medal for that Bébé deal. Unfair treatment
 
charleysurf said:
These muppets don't give a feck about actual matches. Throwing their dummies out of the pram because United have only spent 60m so far is all they're good for.
All we will see from their sort is moaning. United is wasted on them.
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:lol: course I care about games, I care about Manchester United.
I'm just fecked off that we seem to be stalling again on transfers when's it's clear as rain that the squad in weak and unbalanced especially at the back. I'm fecked off with Woodward after his speech a month or so ago, bigging himself up. We have lost 4 leaders and replaced them with unproven players. There is time left I know but as every day passes it seems like we actually have no targets. LVG will need to work a miracle to get us into the top 4, we already have injuries and already the squad looks patched up.
 
walsh said:
Love how some of you just assume Woodward is solely responsible and it's nothing to do with who van Gaal has or hasn't asked him to buy.
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Of course a massive part of it could be LVG does not want any more targets, as stated before he joined he's more of a promoter than a big spender. Its not that, that is annoying me about Woodward, its him saying ''watch this space'' and shite talking about how we have infinite money, any and every club with players that we may target have surely seen that interview and will jack up the price.
 
Browniee said:
:lol: course I care about games, I care about Manchester United.
I'm just fecked off that we seem to be stalling again on transfers when's it's clear as rain that the squad in weak and unbalanced especially at the back. I'm fecked off with Woodward after his speech a month or so ago, bigging himself up. We have lost 4 leaders and replaced them with unproven players. There is time left I know but as every day passes it seems like we actually have no targets. LVG will need to work a miracle to get us into the top 4, we already have injuries and already the squad looks patched up.
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You think we actually don't have any targets. And if that's the deal who's to blame?
 
Solius said:
He's been proven to be a random bloke that works in KFC. Majority of people know that so I'd say he's well placed to judge.
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Majority of people thinking they know something doesn't prove anything, especially the right to judge.
If you are a mod ban me if not stop fecking wasting my time.
 
simonhch said:
I'm as frustrated about the lack of quality additions as much as the next man, but this post is a little off the mark I think.

"lost 5 players". Evra - Upgraded through Shaw. Ferdinand - hardly played last year and wouldn't have the pace to play in this system this year. Vidic - Big loss but still time to replace him. Buttner - Rubbish. Rather play Reece James. The others? Bebe, Macheda, etc? Hardly a loss. In fact hopefully the likes of Fellaini, Anderson and possibly Hernandez can be moved on too.

"Only brought in 2" - There's no Europe this year, so we'll have 10-15 games less than usual. Squad doesn't need to be as huge. The two we have brought in both improve our first XI immediately. We have never been lacking squad numbers. So quality over quantity is important. Also worth remembering that we brought Mata in, in January without moving anyone else on.

Moyes has gone and Van Gaal has come in. This is the biggest single strengthening factor of any team in the league. Our squad isn't great but nearly all our players underperformed woefully last season. If Van Gaal gets a 10-20% improvement out of everyone, the difference come May will be huge. We still have several players who are either top class, serial league winners or full of potential.

A lot of our young players are being criminally under rated on here. Two years ago Smalling and Jones was being touted as the future of not only our defence but the England defence too. Neither has had a consistent run of games together. Expect that to change this season. Both have enormous potential and both have already shown in patches that they are top quality defenders. On form Evans is one of the best defenders in the league. Another who is criminally under rated. If it wasn't for injury concerns, I would be very happy to have Jones, Smalling and Evans as our first choice three. All are good on the ball, relatively quick and natural defenders.

Cleverly is one young player who has not developed as I hoped. But Welbeck is a player I have so much time for. His close control, teamwork and pace are top drawer. I think we look a much better team with him in the side. His pace alone changes the dimension of our attack. He's never had a run in his favoured position. For me, this season would see him cement himself as first choice striker partnered with either Rooney or RVP. Wilson as the 4th choice striker.

It's a cliché to say it but I have to say it anyway. Fletcher's return to form is like a new signing. He's not the top tier level we need but he looks so much better with a full pre-season under his belt and has an awful lot to offer. He's just going to get stronger and stronger over the coming months I feel. And one thing we should all know about Darren Fletcher is to never underestimate his fortitude or ability to triumph under pressure. He took more abuse as a young player at United than I have seen before, it was shameful. He went from absolute zero, to cult hero in about 3 seasons.

With the change in formation, we are not going to be reliant on productivity from wide areas to create the bulk of our goals. Which is just as well because our wingers are shite. It's amazing Moyes put so much emphasis and pressure on the weakest area of our squad. So again, we have improved hugely here, potentially anyway, by playing to our strengths.

We are going to be so much more competitive this year than we were last. I see our rivals being very worried about us. Arsenal have done well to sign Sanchez, but running and creativity from deep was never a problem for them. They still haven't addressed their two biggest weaknesses, in CDM and CF. Chelsea have upgraded very well and I see them as clear favourites. Liverpool have CL distractions with a squad that isn't CL experienced. The loss of Suarez only makes them less dangerous. Their other additions could be good, could be bad. They spread the money quite thinly and in some cases speculatively. And Man City have brought in Fernando, who won't start and is only a slightly better version of Garcia and Mangala who was absurdly overpriced and can't get in the France team ahead of Sahko.
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Best post I've read in ages especially the part with LVG replacing Moyes, signing of the season for me.
 
Trizy said:
Of course a massive part of it could be LVG does not want any more targets, as stated before he joined he's more of a promoter than a big spender. Its not that, that is annoying me about Woodward, its him saying ''watch this space'' and shite talking about how we have infinite money, any and every club with players that we may target have surely seen that interview and will jack up the price.
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Yeah but I just love how he's hated for a whole year, is revered after signing Shaw and Herrera in the same week and then is a 'lying cnut' when we have a period of inactivity (which LVG explicitly warned/informed us about). We're almost certainly going to sign some more players before the end of the window and I'll be interested to see if some of these hysterical children change their tune again.
 
Trizy said:
Of course a massive part of it could be LVG does not want any more targets, as stated before he joined he's more of a promoter than a big spender. Its not that, that is annoying me about Woodward, its him saying ''watch this space'' and shite talking about how we have infinite money, any and every club with players that we may target have surely seen that interview and will jack up the price.
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Is the 'watch this space' stuff really that bothersome? He's asked about transfers in an interview and he says that we've no set budget, and while there is nothing to announce our spending isn't necessarily over, so watch this space.

How would you have preferred the interview to go? Do you think he lied in the interview? Do you think he already had the feet up and the decision made not to buy anyone else? What would you have liked him to say?

There's a serious lack of maturity around this thread. It's absolutely fine to have concerns over our squad, it's not really fine to call our CEO a 'cnut' and then a 'lying cnut'. I would have thought that was fairly obvious.
 
Fazer said:
Majority of people thinking they know something doesn't prove anything, especially the right to judge.
If you are a mod ban me if not stop fecking wasting my time.
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It's not thinking. It was proven. If you actually believe he's legit you need a bit more common sense.
 
Fazer said:
Majority of people thinking they know something doesn't prove anything, especially the right to judge.
If you are a mod ban me if not stop fecking wasting my time.
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Awwww shit's going down... Solius, to the extent of my knowledge, is a mod.
 
That post basically just casts doubts on United's rivals and spins a lot of nonsense in relation to as positive and it's a "good post". Sure. Basically it's "things could be bad for United's rivals, but things will most likely go well for United, so yeah it's all good"
I'm sure Chelsea, City and Arsenal are quaking in their boots looking at United's team.
 
Haha love Internet forums. No transfers happening so everybody turns on each other and starts arguing lol. I think we can all agree that we need new signings but even if we don't make any people should shut the feck up and support the players we have.
 
Fazer said:
Majority of people thinking they know something doesn't prove anything, especially the right to judge.
If you are a mod ban me if not stop fecking wasting my time.
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It's a forum, if nobody has the right to judge, it would be fecking anarchy. The rules are set, follow them or go elsewhere.
 
I can't help but feel if Woodward had been a little more modest and clever in that infamous interview, we could've gone about our business a lot more discreetly and efficiently without announcing to the world we had millions to spend.

The clubs in charge of the players we want have now seen us coming, and are making things as protracted and complicated as possible by milking us for every penny - because we (apparently) have that money.
 
Trizy said:
Of course a massive part of it could be LVG does not want any more targets, as stated before he joined he's more of a promoter than a big spender. Its not that, that is annoying me about Woodward, its him saying ''watch this space'' and shite talking about how we have infinite money, any and every club with players that we may target have surely seen that interview and will jack up the price.
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Apart from the fact he has already said we need to change things via transfers.
 
Trizy said:
I really think we have different meaning of ''being a cnut'' in Ireland than England. Its a funny way here of saying someones acting the fool for example not that he is actually a cnut, which again is less offensive than some on here think. World apart in words I guess.
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I'm Irish, living in Ireland. Being called an 'absolute lying cnut' simply doesn't have a secondary meaning. That's bullshit.
 
walsh said:
Yeah but I just love how he's hated for a whole year, is revered after signing Shaw and Herrera in the same week and then is a 'lying cnut' when we have a period of inactivity (which LVG explicitly warned/informed us about). We're almost certainly going to sign some more players before the end of the window and I'll be interested to see if some of these hysterical children change their tune again.
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Expect them to clain Fergie and Gill made those deals, not Woodward.
 
Aussie_Red_Devil said:
Haha love Internet forums. No transfers happening so everybody turns on each other and starts arguing lol. I think we can all agree that we need new signings but even if we don't make any people should shut the feck up and support the players we have.
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And it's always the same negative posters who criticize everyone and everything - you could imagine us signing Di Maria, Vidal and Hummels and they have a few bad games and it'd be the same ones cursing LVG or Woodward for wasting our money on a load of useless players. Perhaps they should go and support a team that spends loads of money but doesn't win much
 
Paul the Wolf said:
And it's always the same negative posters who criticize everyone and everything - you could imagine us signing Di Maria, Vidal and Hummels and they have a few bad games and it'd be the same ones cursing LVG or Woodward for wasting our money on a load of useless players. Perhaps they should go and support a team that spends loads of money but doesn't win much
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And lots of 'Chelsea is good at this, City is good at that, if only we could be like Madrid/City/Chelsea' and similar stuff.

Imagine LVG having a few bad weeks, people will be on his neck quickly as hell.
 
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Paul the Wolf said:
And it's always the same negative posters who criticize everyone and everything - you could imagine us signing Di Maria, Vidal and Hummels and they have a few bad games and it'd be the same ones cursing LVG or Woodward for wasting our money on a load of useless players. Perhaps they should go and support a team that spends loads of money but doesn't win much
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Harsh dude. People have varied opinions or mental imagery of the direction United should take and different ways of expressing them. Some are overzealous or exuberant and some get depressed easily out of genuine concern for the club. Doesn't mean they're not true United supporters at heart.
 
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