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Well in the case of Young and Valencia they are not suited to 4-3-3 as they are traditional wingers.
If anything, Young is suited to 4-3-3, if his time at Aston Villa is anything to go by.

This was a typical Aston Villa team under O'neill:
Friedel,
Luke Young, Cuellar, Davies, Shorey,
Milner (Reo-Coker 76), Petrov, Barry,
Ashley Young, Carew, Agbonlahor.

Agree about Valencia though. There's obviously not much variation to his game, so he'd waste the wing position in a 4-3-3 formation.
 
If anything, Young is suited to 4-3-3.

This was typical Aston Villa team:
Friedel, Luke Young, Cuellar, Davies, Shorey,
Milner (Reo-Coker 76), Petrov, Barry,
Ashley Young, Carew, Agbonlahor.

He played in the formation but it doesn't mean he is suited to it. When you look at the teams that play it you need wide men that can chip in with double figures and even though Young's scoring record was solid at Villa he took the penalty's.
 
He played in the formation but it doesn't mean he is suited to it. When you look at the teams that play it you need wide men that can chip in with double figures and even though Young's scoring record was solid at Villa he took the penalty's.
He played in the formation to good effect. I don't think he's any more suited to play a traditional winger role. I think he is (or at least was) better when he stations himself slightly more inwards on the pitch.

He played well in the 4-3-3 for Villa. That doesn't mean he's good enough to do it at any level and score tons of goals. But he's better in that role than the orthodox winger role.
Put him in Laudrup's initial Swansea side (for example), and he'd look quite useful.

You say a wide man in 4-3-3 should contribute double figures, but shouldn't a traditional winger contribute lots of assists? But he doesn't do that.
 
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He said something like he needs to buy "this type of player so I can play 4-3-3", definitely not word for word but he was alluding to a winger or a Sanchez type of player

Isn't it more likely he was talking about another CM? After all, it was the Strootman injury that forced him to abandon his preferred 433 with the Netherlands.
 
At last nights presser.
The tweet is a bit misleading, though, in that he basically confirmed that Young will stay (sigh) because he believes he can play both right and left wing-back. That means Nani is going and Valencia and Young are staying, most likely.
 
Isn't it more likely he was talking about another CM? After all, it was the Strootman injury that forced him to abandon his preferred 433 with the Netherlands.
He was talking about a specialist winger, I just watched the presser.
 
If anything, Young is suited to 4-3-3, if his time at Aston Villa is anything to go by.

This was a typical Aston Villa team under O'neill:
Friedel,
Luke Young, Cuellar, Davies, Shorey,
Milner (Reo-Coker 76), Petrov, Barry,
Ashley Young, Carew, Agbonlahor.

Agree about Valencia though. There's obviously not much variation to his game, so he'd waste the wing position in a 4-3-3 formation.
He probably doesnt suit it because he's not good enough
 
Isn't it more likely he was talking about another CM? After all, it was the Strootman injury that forced him to abandon his preferred 433 with the Netherlands.

Van Gaal said he needs more/ better attackers to implement a 4-3-3. Since we already have two 9.5s, he could only be talking about the wider positions.
 
He probably doesnt suit it because he's not good enough
Yeah, no doubts about that. But I'd still say he's more suited to a 4-3-3 than a 4-4-2. So if Van Gaal wants new wingers it will probably be because of quality not because Young can't play the role. Valencia genuinely can't play the role. Young can - just not to a high enough standard.

It goes without saying that a team looking to get back into Europe and then challenge in it needs better than Young as a starter, whatever formation they employ.
 
Isn't it more likely he was talking about another CM? After all, it was the Strootman injury that forced him to abandon his preferred 433 with the Netherlands.
http://www1.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/football/9398436/van-gaal-won

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Could be interpreted your way, depending on whether he means he has to deploy "more attackers/specialists" which we already have available within our squad or not. I think he means an extra winger has to be brought in though.
 
Young and Nani could play those roles, but we would definitely need better to excel at it. Reus on the left wing could be his Ribery. If LVG want's pace and goals he will be the perfect player.
 
The tweet is a bit misleading, though, in that he basically confirmed that Young will stay (sigh) because he believes he can play both right and left wing-back. That means Nani is going and Valencia and Young are staying, most likely.

I just saw the bit about him saying he was going to use Young as a LWB tonight, amazingly Young now looks like he'll be viewed as more useful than either Nani or Valencia.
 
Depay may be a possibility then.
I think I read that if PSV sell him they want to take him back another year on loan. di Maria and Cuadrado are also options. The latter can also play wing-back...
 
I just saw the bit about him saying he was going to use Young as a LWB tonight, amazingly Young now looks like he'll be viewed as more useful than either Nani or Valencia.
I can't see Valencia becoming one of LVG's favourites because he likes intelligent players, but I'm pretty sure he'll keep him on as a backup to Rafael. For Nani on the other hand, there's no doubt this system is the end of him. If it was up to me, I'd have Nani over any of our other two wingers but in this formation we really have no use for him. He could do a job as a striker but there's too much competition.
 
He's also stated several times he hates playing on the right! :p

IIRC he played on the left in a 4-3-3 at Napoli too, he didn't hate it then.
I just think that's his excuse of saying he wants out of PSG.

I hope we don't get him, but considering we've been linked with him since Jan. and now LVG saying he wants specialists suited to the role it could be quite worrying.
 
I think I read that if PSV sell him they want to take him back another year on loan. di Maria and Cuadrado are also options. The latter can also play wing-back...
Di Maria seems to be PSG bound and Barca are keen on making Cuadrado their last signing this summer. I don't think that they are realistic targets.
 
IIRC he played on the left in a 4-3-3 at Napoli too, he didn't hate it then.
I just think that's his excuse of saying he wants out of PSG.

I hope we don't get him, but considering we've been linked with him since Jan. and now LVG saying he wants specialists suited to the role it could be quite worrying.

He always played in the middle in a 343 system. Hamsik and Lavezzi supporting him
 
Im sick of El Bulshitio or Corrielo Del A Winnets stating 'Vidal in this moment has agreement with the Manchester but the Juventus do no want to sell, the agent will stick his skidmarked grundies in Allegri face to make deal happen' malarky.
 
Di Maria seems to be PSG bound and Barca are keen on making Cuadrado their last signing this summer. I don't think that they are realistic targets.

Cuadrado wants first team football. We can give him that, he's expressed interest in our club. I think he's realistic tbh.
 
Cuadrado wants first team football. We can give him that, he's expressed interest in our club. I think he's realistic tbh.
Latest rumours about Barca indicate that Alves is on his way out to make room for Cuadrado, so he won't miss first team football, if he Barcelona.
 
Latest rumours about Barca indicate that Alves is on his way out to make room for Cuadrado, so he won't miss first team football, if he Barcelona.

We'll have to wait and see. It'll be a shame if we miss out on Cuadrado, he'd be perfect for us and a flexible player. I've said that way too many times in the last few seasons though.
 
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