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RedBistro said:
The Tommy V rumours were quashed by his agent.

Miranda seems like he could be one of our first signings.

Cavani is the weirdest one, been dragging on since January, made some degree of sense when Moyes was in charge, makes none with Van Gaal as boss in my view.
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Like the majority are saying on here, the press don't have the foggiest who we're in for and i'm glad about that. I just hope at the end of it we get our targets and don't drag it out.
 
Sparky Rhiwabon said:
Wrong. The hardcore fans (e.g. people on here) generally don't want him because they understand that we have other priorities. However, the casual United fans - who probably make up 95% of our global fanbase - do want him. And that is where the majority of our income comes from.
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Why would "casual fans" ie the supposed 95% be different to everyone else?

You're doing foreign fans a massive disservice. The reasons fans are not keen will largely be due to the obvious - that we don't need a forward and have priorities elsewhere. Foreign fans watch the same games we do and a lot are likely to come to you same conclusions we do as well.

Cavani makes no sense under LVG primarily as RVP is his man. Simple as that. Moyes may have been interested but there is nothing credible to suggest the club remain interested.
 
There is something credible though. I thought Mitten confirmed we had made Cavani an offer?

He is rarely wrong when it comes to United.
 
Sparky Rhiwabon said:
Wrong. The hardcore fans (e.g. people on here) generally don't want him because they understand that we have other priorities. However, the casual United fans - who probably make up 95% of our global fanbase - do want him. And that is where the majority of our income comes from.
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I must've missed this poll.
 
Raoul said:
I doubt the Cavani stuff is legit. Mainly because it makes no sense. All Twitter nonsense that people (including me in this post) are pointlessly discussing because of one or two ambiguous quotes that untrustworthy news sources leveraged to create articles to get people to click on their sites.
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The only reliable person to recently report on Cavani is Andy Mitten, and in his piece he went on to state that while Cavani did have an offer from United, he "wouldn't want a repeat of his situation in Paris where he plays second fiddle to Zlatan Ibrahimovic", and that he "feels he's good enough to be the leading striker at a club and is wary of joining United given Robin van Persie’s status."

It sounds like any interest we might have in Cavani is unlikely to lead to a move anyway, due to Cavani's concerns about his potential status. Short of Van Persie leaving (extraordinarily unlikely), I doubt we'll be seeing Cavani in a United shirt.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co...news/andy-mitten-intriguing-uruguay-v-7291576
 
A bit vague, but if Mitten wrote it, its probably something he heard from one of his sources at United or PSG (or from an agent). Quite a leap from there to something that will happen though.
 
So who would you guys want of Mangala and Miranda? Mangala is younger but I've read quite different views of him, and not all convincing.
 
Red Katie said:
So who would you guys want of Mangala and Miranda? Mangala is younger but I've read quite different views of him, and not all convincing.
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The better player, obviously, but I'm not going to pretend I know which one that is.
 
Van Gaal may want neither. Irrespective of who were are linked with, he may have his own idea of who he wants, and we should be prepared for it.
 


SKY's @DiMarzio confirms that Guarin rejected offers from Zenit & Wolfsburg, It's important to remember that Guarin had said 'Yes' to Juve.

Posting this because weren't we linked to him a week or so ago?
 
RedBistro said:


SKY's @DiMarzio confirms that Guarin rejected offers from Zenit & Wolfsburg, It's important to remember that Guarin had said 'Yes' to Juve.

Posting this because weren't we linked to him a week or so ago?
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He'll have been linked to every club in the world at this rate. Not someone I'd be arsed about missing out on though, he's so average & inconsistent.
 
Red Katie said:
So who would you guys want of Mangala and Miranda? Mangala is younger but I've read quite different views of him, and not all convincing.
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Defensively we need lots of experience so the more we can get out of one guy the better. Miranda it is.
 
Mitten is as closed to gospel as you can get with journos. He rarely posts transfer news and when he does theres substantial evidence to back him up. He was all over the Anders Herrera thing and talked to the player himself on several occasions. If Mitten says theres something in the Cavani rumour then I'd believe him. I personally wouldn't mind him at United but not at 55 mill
 
I don't get all the interest in Guarin. Every time I've watched Inter he looked very selfish often bombing forward and shooting from outside the box when he has better options, not impressed with him at all.
 
Ramshock said:
Mitten is as closed to gospel as you can get with journos. He rarely posts transfer news and when he does theres substantial evidence to back him up. He was all over the Anders Herrera thing and talked to the player himself on several occasions. If Mitten says theres something in the Cavani rumour then I'd believe him. I personally wouldn't mind him at United but not at 55 mill
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Just seems ridiculous given Van Persie and Rooney. Which is why I can only see Rooney being sold if Cavani is actually going to happen.
 
Kill 'em all said:
I don't get all the interest in Guarin. Every time I've watched Inter he looked very selfish often bombing forward and shooting from outside the box when he has better options, not impressed with him at all.
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From what I've read, it's more of a case of Inter trying to cash in on him. Not him being hot property. Seems like they're struggling to find a buyer too.
 
Kill 'em all said:
I don't get all the interest in Guarin. Every time I've watched Inter he looked very selfish often bombing forward and shooting from outside the box when he has better options, not impressed with him at all.
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That's pretty much all he does 99% of the time. Comfortably the most frustrating player there is. They've been trying to shift him for ages, no surprise they haven't had much luck.
 
Minimalist said:
Just seems ridiculous given Van Persie and Rooney. Which is why I can only see Rooney being sold if Cavani is actually going to happen.
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Rooney will play further back the older he gets, its not out of the realms of possibility and there was even rumours on twitter today suggesting so that LvG might play Rooney as in midfield.
 
Ramshock said:
Rooney will play further back the older he gets, its not out of the realms of possibility and there was even rumours on twitter today suggesting so that LvG might play Rooney as in midfield.
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Not rumours. It's came from article by Steve Bates
 
Ramshock said:
Rooney will play further back the older he gets, its not out of the realms of possibility and there was even rumours on twitter today suggesting so that LvG might play Rooney as in midfield.
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I really, really hope we don't see Rooney in midfield next year in lieu of an actual midfielder.

Even if we signed nobody I'd rather see our actual midfielders there than a striker playing out of position who can't play there properly.
 
matherto said:
I really, really hope we don't see Rooney in midfield next year in lieu of an actual midfielder.

Even if we signed nobody I'd rather see our actual midfielders there than a striker playing out of position who can't play there properly.
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Rooney, IMO, would make a great midfielder IF he commits himself to the job. His days of running around willy nilly are drawing to a close.
 
Ramshock said:
Mitten is as closed to gospel as you can get with journos. He rarely posts transfer news and when he does theres substantial evidence to back him up. He was all over the Anders Herrera thing and talked to the player himself on several occasions. If Mitten says theres something in the Cavani rumour then I'd believe him. I personally wouldn't mind him at United but not at 55 mill
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Since Mitten said that, Daniel Taylor has said he isn't a target.
 
I think Rooney would be decent as a defensive midfielder in the Luis Gustavo mould. I don't think he would have the stamina to be a box-to-box midfielder and he can't pass well enough to be a creative midfielder.
 
jaimoe said:
Rooney, IMO, would make a great midfielder IF he commits himself to the job. His days of running around willy nilly are drawing to a close.
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That's the problem, I don't think he can commit himself to be disciplined and not just wander around.

If he goes missing in our midfield we'll end up losing by a massive margin every time.
 
Silverman said:
I think Rooney would be decent as a defensive midfielder in the Luis Gustavo mould. I don't think he would have the stamina to be a box-to-box midfielder and he can't pass well enough to be a creative midfielder.
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Eh? What on Earth? Rooney as a holding midfielder? Nonsense. He hasn't the positional sense, the tackling abilities nor the stature. Why would you play a player who is so potent at goalscoring and creating goals so deep?
 
Silverman said:
I think Rooney would be decent as a defensive midfielder in the Luis Gustavo mould. I don't think he would have the stamina to be a box-to-box midfielder and he can't pass well enough to be a creative midfielder.
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Stamina is one of his best assets. He runs all over the place all of the time. In fact when he plays up top he sometimes runs and tracks back too much.

Also, what part of his game lends itself to being a defensive midfielder? If you're going to play him in there it would be for his ability to get forward as well as track back, therefore the box to box player in a 3.
 
jaimoe said:
Rooney, IMO, would make a great midfielder IF he commits himself to the job. His days of running around willy nilly are drawing to a close.
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That's the key thing IMO. He's got a thirst for goals though. He thinks the only reason he isn't up there with Ronaldo and Messi is because he has never had a team based around him and focused on him scoring goals like they have.

He's always had to do a job for the team at various points each season.

I think he'd be happy to drop deeper once the United record is his though, that's probably two seasons away.
 
DWelbz19 said:
Eh? What on Earth? Rooney as a holding midfielder? Nonsense. He hasn't the positional sense, the tackling abilities nor the stature. Why would you play a player who is so potent at goalscoring and creating goals so deep?
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This is if we had to play him in midfield. I personally would keep him as a striker but he isn't going to be first choice so I don't know if he will be happy with that.
 
The Neviller said:
Stamina is one of his best assets. He runs all over the place all of the time. In fact when he plays up top he sometimes runs and tracks back too much.

Also, what part of his game lends itself to being a defensive midfielder? If you're going to play him in there it would be for his ability to get forward as well as track back, therefore the box to box player in a 3.
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And how long do you think he will be able to keep that stamina up over the next few years into his thirties. He is not the lightest of lads so I doubt he will be able to do it for much longer. I think if he could work on his positional sense then his aggression would allow him to break up play and start attacks.
 
I'm almost certain van Gaal hasn't given any insights yet into his tactical plans for United, let alone to the Mirror. He might well try Rooney in midfield, but at the moment it's just speculative nonsense from a pretty unreliable newspaper.

The leaks have stopped from the Club it seems and they have to fill their sports pages with United stories somehow. This is the kind of stuff they're currently coming up with. Complete guesses basically.
 
Silverman said:
I think Rooney would be decent as a defensive midfielder in the Luis Gustavo mould. I don't think he would have the stamina to be a box-to-box midfielder and he can't pass well enough to be a creative midfielder.
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Agree. I think he has the attributes to be a good holding midfielder, but I think it'd be difficult for him to show the discipline required to keep his position. I remember Fergie said they tried to get Keano to sit in front of the back 4 as he got older, but he wouldn't have it, just kept chasing around after everything like he always did. I think Rooney might be similar.
 
RedRover said:
Why would "casual fans" ie the supposed 95% be different to everyone else?

You're doing foreign fans a massive disservice. The reasons fans are not keen will largely be due to the obvious - that we don't need a forward and have priorities elsewhere. Foreign fans watch the same games we do and a lot are likely to come to you same conclusions we do as well.

Cavani makes no sense under LVG primarily as RVP is his man. Simple as that. Moyes may have been interested but there is nothing credible to suggest the club remain interested.
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Sorry, I didn't mean foreign fans, but casual fans - these are in the UK and overseas! For a general feel for what I mean - look at the Manchester United Facebook page and the comments on there
 
If the choice was 'midfielder or Cavani' I'd understand the objection but this either/or scenario seems to have been completely invented in the heads of the 'hardcore fans' to give them an excuse to moan about yet another player who because we're linked with him they automatically don't want.
 
Tarrou said:
Agree. I think he has the attributes to be a good holding midfielder, but I think it'd be difficult for him to show the discipline required to keep his position. I remember Fergie said they tried to get Keano to sit in front of the back 4 as he got older, but he wouldn't have it, just kept chasing around after everything like he always did. I think Rooney might be similar.
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Yeah, to be honest I think he will be a #9 until he retires it just depends where.
 
It's not that Cavani isn't priority though it's that we already have trouble fitting the players we have up top, why add to that problem. Perhaps if it was a player of talent you can't afford to miss out on if available, but I don't think many believe Cavani to be that good.

We can buy players who don't solve problems but do improve us (ie. not necessarily midfielders) - but there's little point spunking big money on someone just for the sake of the name..

I don't think we're interested anyway.
 
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