Yet he has just asked about Cavani and was told he isn't a target so he must still have a source feeding him info.
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i hope he means his arse
Wesley Sneijder definitely not moving to Manchester United this summer http://www.football-oranje.com/wesley-sneijder-will-not-joined-manchester-united/… (by @MichaelJBell09 )
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Albers, "Sneijder has a long contract and will definitely be continuing at Galatasaray." (Turkish-Football) #mufc
Albers, "Van Gaal has not held any talks with me regarding a possible move to United." (Turkish-football) #Sneijder
Wesley Sneijder's agent Guido Albers, "Rumours linking Sneijder with Manchester United are false," (Turkish-football)
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Good news. Doubt Van Gaal would want him any way.
so to get things straight, if Moysie had stayed, we'd very probably have Fabregas and Kroos
We'd have been led on another wild muppet chase or two this summer, that's what we'd have if Moyes stayed.
Van Gaal won't have any of that nonsense.
I've just 1 issue with the Daniel Taylor tweets. He says it's difficult to know our targets but was able to get an instant reply on Cavani not being a target. So it could be that van Gaal hasn't submitted a list as we're led to believe or that all the journo's have been briefed to shut it until they're given info. We seem to have fed them selectively and also using them to outright deny us being in for certain players like Cavani.
Total speculation on my behalf but I wonder if Woodward, being a money man, has recognised what a marquee signing could do for the brand he sells around the world. As a result he set his sights on one that he had been made aware would be available - Cavani and then used his journalists to put the feelers out there in social media to see what sort of reaction he would get from out fans.
As the general feeling was underwhelmed and apprehensive of spending so much on a position we are already so healthy in, it basically negated the whole point of a "marquee signing" and he's dropped his interest.
As the general feeling was underwhelmed and apprehensive of spending so much on a position we are already so healthy in, it basically negated the whole point of a "marquee signing" and he's dropped his interest.
If that's true, we should really worry.
It's just me speculating. I'd be more worried if it wasn't true and he bought him anyway.
We've been buying players for commercial reasons for years, it's just that they were generally good players for reasonable fees rather than excellent players for exorbitant fees.
The reason I'd worry as if he makes a plan, then runs that by the fans and decides no, he doesn't really have a clue, that's trial & error, his job isn't to appease fans, it's to do what's best for that means disagreeing with most fans. While I agree in this instance, that logic has saved us (From a player we don't need), it's just more worrying for me that that's how sure Woodward is of himself, also as far as holding out for a marquee signing, I can assume the most important part about said player, would be his marketability, while Cavani is a top player, I’d argue Mata is as marketable/commercial, while people like DDG, Rooney & Januzaj are far more than all 3, so if this was his big plan, it wasn’t the greatest to begin with, he was then swayed by people who think they know what’s best… Perhaps I’m going over the top but it’s worrying tbh
I'd rather a muppet chase over Vermaelen and Gaitan!
Genuine question (as I believe the above could be plausible), could social media have a direct impact on share price?
So say we sign Cavani, newspapers report on a general unease online from the fanbase as to whether he was a worthwhile signing. Do investors start questioning the €60 million investment and share prices start to fall?
No idea, I wasn't thinking that they'd quantify it by social media feeling, more that upon signing they'd recognise that we have a big star who is adored by fans and could be put on packets of chilli sauce, shaving foam and batteries the world over.
It's a bit pointless making a marquee signing for commercial reasons that fans don't want.
Even if we signed Ronaldo or Messi for £60m the share price would fall as that's how markets initially react to these sorts of things.
I'd hope that he was smart enough to know that the more trophies we win the bigger the brand will sell across the world. There will always be a group of fans who stay loyal, Liverpool for example still have a big pull round the world, and I expect we'd be similar if we had some barren years. But ultimately if you're winning big trophies then you'll win fans, even more so if you do it playing good football. To do that we need to sign the right players, not the one's who will create a short term buzz. Plus tbh I'm not sure if Cavani would really be that much of a brand booster. Top player no doubt but don't think he has the biggest reputation/fan base out there.
Feel sorry in a way for Sneijder but it's his own greed. He's moved to Turkey at least three or four years too soon. His club career at the top level ended with that which is a shame.
For me, the problem with Cavani is that he isn't even a marquee signing.
Wouldn't say that. He was on the wane before he moved there. It's not like it was a money motivated move.
If he wanted a "marquee signing", he'll be calling Ronaldo.
Signing someone who isn't even first choice in his favorite position isn't really that marquee.
Agree. There's no doubt there's some great brand value in signing a superstar but is Cavani really a global superstar who can really raise our profile? We certainly have at least two players in our squad already with more star quality.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Arsenal captain Thomas Vermaelen has dismissed speculation linking him with a move to Manchester United. <a href="http://t.co/7K7nWZ6dBl">http://t.co/7K7nWZ6dBl</a></p>— Sky Sports Football (@SkyFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/SkyFootball/statuses/479906236369227776">June 20, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Does anyone know why it won't show the tweet above.
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Does anyone know why it won't show the tweet above.
That's what I wanted mine to look like. What did you do different to me?
The sooner you all realise that the Media ain't got a scoobies who we're going for the better.
I have that magic touch...
Nah its not that hard just copy and paste the link to the tweet and it'll look like that
I don't want us to sign him, so this isn't just wishful thinking, but couldn't that easily be a denial that there's a deal in place with him rather than denying that it might happen?
Isn't believing what anyone says on transfers being a bit naive?
Maybe I'm wrong but do people genuinely expect anyone to say "yes, I want to move. Bags packed already", as that seems to apply to so very, very few deals that happen. It just seems incredible that people take comments from clubs, managers, players or agents as definitive. You'd have to be a bit special and about a week old to do that.
Maybe I'm wrong but do people genuinely expect anyone to say "yes, I want to move. Bags packed already", as that seems to apply to so very, very few deals that happen. It just seems incredible that people take comments from clubs, managers, players or agents as definitive. You'd have to be a bit special and about a week old to do that.
I did and it just comes up like this.I have that magic touch...
Nah its not that hard just copy and paste the link to the tweet and it'll look like that
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Arsenal captain Thomas Vermaelen has dismissed speculation linking him with a move to Manchester United. <a href="http://t.co/7K7nWZ6dBl">http://t.co/7K7nWZ6dBl</a></p>— Sky Sports Football (@SkyFootball) <a href="https://twitter.com/SkyFootball/statuses/479906236369227776">June 20, 2014</a></blockquote>
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If the move were to happen and you were the player, surely you'd just keep your trap shut?
Then what happens?
"Player refuses to deny speculation!!!"
An unscientific guess is that 99% of all transfers that happen follow the usual "I'm happy here" denials as that's an easy way to avoid an immediate shit-storm. Not to say everyone who says that is off but it's surprising just how many people willingly accept everything said at face value, as if they've never seen a transfer take place before or what normally happens. Players who publicly ask away or say they're unhappy must be a minute fraction of deals that eventually take place.
yet every denial "well that's that then", it's incredible.
True.Only morons or unprofessional twats would say "yes please, get me out of here". Not sure I want us signing anyone like that
His contract expires next Summer and Arsenal haven't looked keen to renew. I don't think it matters.
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