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Thank God. What a waste of valuable space and money.
One of Ferguson's worst signings, and that is including Kleberson and Djemba twins.
I dont think so, failed to fulfilled his potential but was good in his first two seasons. Its just shit luck we have had with injuries to central midfielders. He was a Integral part of the team that won the champions league and reached another final. Cant call him a waste of space, but yeah another one who just couldnt reach his potential due to lack of professionalism and lack of luck.
Are you talking about Khedira?
Obviously there is no evidence of this, but I don't think he really tried to adapt to a more balanced role in midfield. He seems to me as one of the many players who get signed or promoted by the club and instantly think they've made it, and don't attempt to develop their game to become a better player.
We can use the injuries excuse until we're blue in the face (which most already have) but many players have had niggly injuries and still become great players. I think a lot of it is mental also.
He never had the mentality to become a good player at a club like ours.
I consider Kleberson and Djemba-Djemba more successful players at United. At least they always gave 100%, and where in good shape throughout their career here.
There is an interview of anderson where he says he was a terqutista(3/4th forward), now he is a central midfielder, in his first season of united. I think he tried and failed to adapt, its not his fault, his talents lie in a position we were stocked in.
He broke his leg before joining us, suffered acl damage 2 times when he was here, hardly an excuse.
Now i understand the mentality part, but come on klebereson and djemba djemba having succesful time here than anderson? You must be having a laugh.
I think Young is worse. Anderson scored a penalty in the CL final.
Poor fella. Must have been awful for him to have to run more.
Okay, fair enough. I didn't realise his injuries were so severe.
I'm completely serious. In my opinion, Anderson pretty much contributed nothing to our success in any competition, apart from maybe a Carling Cup, and the cracking penalty in the CL final.
He also played Gerrard and Fabregas off the park in their prime as a 19 year old. The talent was obviously there, he just fell victim to the same vices of other Brazilians who didn't adjust to European lifestyles and levels of professionalism that were required to become the player he could have been. He had rotten luck with injuries, as well. Perhaps if he were fit more often, he'd have not had such issues with his fitness.
Eh? You say it as if it's a matter of deciding you want to play a different position. He wasn't suited to playing central midfield for Manchester United, but Sir Alex persisted with shoving the square peg into the round hole for years, despite it never fitting in the first place.
Whether you feel he contributed or not he did have some real success and was therefore; successful.
Kleberson and Djemba-djemba failed to make the team in what was one of our least successful periods under SAF. So your assertion is pretty laughable.
Anderson has had many good games here. Not enough, but a hell of a lot more than duds like Kleberson and Djemba.
Anderson would have gained the exact same success that Kleberson and Djemba did if he was part of the team they were.
Our midfield hasn't been much better over Anderson's period at United in comparison to the other 2.
I wonder How messi might have done as a defensive midfielder, patrice evra as a striker, mascherano as a goalkeeper etc, Not everyone is rooney or john o shea. adaptable to every position. Alan smith was a faliure in central midfield, so was paul scholes on the left for england( guess he might not have wanted to run more too?).
Okay, fair enough. I didn't realise his injuries were so severe.
Played 40 games each in his first two seasons. Was instrumental in the league and played 9 champions league games when we won. I think you are completely undermining his contribution.
If arsenal aren't signing Khedira anymore we should go for him. We need to improve our options.
I think his price tag and the expectation when he arrived has always dampened most good things he did here. That and the fact the amount of shite things he did always outweighed the contrary.
19 Million pounds. Dont really think its too huge, yes we expected a ronaldinho and got good version of kleberson.
VIDAL!
Can't they just open Nani's scouting file from a year ago, or 2 or 3 years ago? Surely they don't have to ask for info again!! Just give us Vidal and we might provide even more info on Nani!!
Info as in, how much he will cost? his wages and other agent fees etc.
Lahm retires at 30!
Louis in Translation
Louis van Gaal's first day at Manchester United coincided with the club's announcement of yet another nonsensical commercial partnership, this time with a Japanese noodle company.
A day later, the Dutchman responded to his first question as manager, posed by the Sun's Neil Custis, by revealing: 'Within two days, I know already how important Manchester United is, but how important also the sponsors are.'
Or, at least, that's what the new boss appeared to say. While Van Gaal's English is very good, and he's clearly an intelligent and articulate man, the word could also have been heard as a slightly botched attempt to say 'supporters'.
Quirky phrasings abounded in a concise 21-minute press conference, reminding those drunk on the idea that the Netherlands' World Cup success can simply and swiftly be imported to Carrington that this is Manchester United's first manager from outside the United Kingdom and Ireland.
Revealing that he and Fergie often 'did the light out with a glass of wine' while at UEFA Elite Forum meetings might have Cathy in a tizzy, and the doom-laden tone with which he revealed Carrick would be out for 'a long time, too long' seemed to hint that Van Gaal had chucked him down some Alice in Wonderland-type rabbit hole for players in terminal decline.
But this was a confident and smart start by a man with a sense of humour and little interest in delivering Brendan-speak to inane media questions.
Describing himself as 'democratic' and then helpfully piercing the distinction between being 'autocratic' and having a 'strong personality' for the journalists present showed a sharp, clear mind.
But there was no mistaking his evident surprise at the size and early demands of the club's media and commercial arms. He referred to the subject on several occasions, and ominously noted that 'it's not always possible to fulfill the commercial expectations and the football expectations'.
Cushy Champions League qualification year-on-year might be enough for the thieves currently running the temple, but for those resentful that United is ever increasingly 'guided in a commercial way', in Van Gaal's words, the idea of football first and foremost serving Floridian financial needs is a perverse insult to our traditions.
Fortunately for fans, in Louis van Gaal, United have hired a football obsessive for whom the pursuit of silverware will always take precedence.
The players will take time to grasp both his philosophy and his occasionally eccentric communication style, but, after hearing the man declare that 'the challenge is always to come first, not fourth', all associated with United should be both reassured and invigorated
Louis van Gaal's first day at Manchester United coincided with the club's announcement of yet another nonsensical commercial partnership, this time with a Japanese noodle company.
A day later, the Dutchman responded to his first question as manager, posed by the Sun's Neil Custis, by revealing: 'Within two days, I know already how important Manchester United is, but how important also the sponsors are.'
Or, at least, that's what the new boss appeared to say. While Van Gaal's English is very good, and he's clearly an intelligent and articulate man, the word could also have been heard as a slightly botched attempt to say 'supporters'.
Quirky phrasings abounded in a concise 21-minute press conference, reminding those drunk on the idea that the Netherlands' World Cup success can simply and swiftly be imported to Carrington that this is Manchester United's first manager from outside the United Kingdom and Ireland.
Revealing that he and Fergie often 'did the light out with a glass of wine' while at UEFA Elite Forum meetings might have Cathy in a tizzy, and the doom-laden tone with which he revealed Carrick would be out for 'a long time, too long' seemed to hint that Van Gaal had chucked him down some Alice in Wonderland-type rabbit hole for players in terminal decline.
But this was a confident and smart start by a man with a sense of humour and little interest in delivering Brendan-speak to inane media questions.
Describing himself as 'democratic' and then helpfully piercing the distinction between being 'autocratic' and having a 'strong personality' for the journalists present showed a sharp, clear mind.
But there was no mistaking his evident surprise at the size and early demands of the club's media and commercial arms. He referred to the subject on several occasions, and ominously noted that 'it's not always possible to fulfill the commercial expectations and the football expectations'.
Cushy Champions League qualification year-on-year might be enough for the thieves currently running the temple, but for those resentful that United is ever increasingly 'guided in a commercial way', in Van Gaal's words, the idea of football first and foremost serving Floridian financial needs is a perverse insult to our traditions.
Fortunately for fans, in Louis van Gaal, United have hired a football obsessive for whom the pursuit of silverware will always take precedence.
The players will take time to grasp both his philosophy and his occasionally eccentric communication style, but, after hearing the man declare that 'the challenge is always to come first, not fourth', all associated with United should be both reassured and invigorated
That's a huge gamble. Wouldn't have thought he was worth anything close to that.
Interesting
No 1. CB ? Thankfully he isn't manager then. Or Redknknapp is just exaggerating and Giggsy was just helping Rio get a club.
If giggs doesnt change his thinking he might not become the manager he dreams off.
Somehow when it's a "Chelsea will move for" story, I find it more credible than when it's United for the same player.
That why LVG must assess each player with his own eyes and not make decisions only on Giggs opinion.
It could just be Giggsy putting in a good word for an ex-teammate who is trying to find a good club and fair last contract. Fair enough, I think we owe Rio that.
I don't believe that he'd have actually gone into this season with a 36 year old with back issues as his Number 1
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