So they want Evra for tuppence but don't want to sell Vidal except for an exceptional offer?
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Evra's being used as a pawn. He's just the excuse to get them to sit at the table.
That's £1.6m for our club captain. Wankers.
If they are unwilling to negotiate with Vidal they can forget about signing Evra. It's about time we started being wankers with outgoings too.
Yeah my mistake.
Of course they would. The article actually just states the obvious, which we already knew. That Juve will sell, only for the right price. If a big offer is given, then they will agree.
And I think we can make a big offer if needed.
We all love Evra but I'd be surprised if he has more than a season left at that level. He was a weak link last season.
I'm with you there. I want us to be cnuts about it.
Right from the beginning of their ownership of the club the Glazers said (through the unreliable media we have), that SAF would have about £20m every season to buy new players. That was when a top player could be had for roughly that amount.
With souring prices and a debt of about £800m, this must have put pressure on the Glazers to limit player spending. Why would United be the only top club to rabbit on about lack of value in the market? If SAF had an open cheque book like at Chelsea, all he would have been concerned about was buying the best players. Also SAF has broken the transfer record himself when required so I don't think he was ever concerned about the value of the market.
SAF had a good working relationship with his bosses and probably understood their plight. He probably also had an understanding that if he really needed to he could have the funds he required - to a limit. And how many people work for a company and slag them off? That a surefire way to get the sack - even if your Sir Alex Ferguson
I know there is a lot of emotion connection with Evra but he has 1 year left on his contract, appears to want to go to Juve, he's 33, he's had a poor season with his form declining and we already have a replacement for him. The price is dirt cheap but I don't think it's far from being a fair price.
Much depends on their financial state. I'm note sure they are really as broke as some on here mentioned.
Also Vidal will have to push for the move.
It's not that their broke just that if they wanted to try and sign Di Maria/Sanchez, two players they've been linked with then they're going to need to sell in order to fund these moves. If they have no intention of buying any expensive players this summer they may well keep Vidal and Pogba.
Their financial state is not horrible, but they do need the money if they want to make significant signings. The rumours are that Sanchez prefers to go to italy, but juve can't stump up the cash. To do this they will need to sell first.
If United wanted to trigger the extra year then its clear that they value him. At the end of next season they could offer him a rolling yearly contract like they've done with Giggs, Scholes etc. Personally, I would get rid of Young/Nani and move Evra onto wing duty.
Evra is a damn fine player and ambassador for the club. Don't under-estimate his longevity.
Almost everyone had a bad season.
The price may be fair given his age and form, but he is worth more to our club than €2 million, especially as he is our club captain. I would suspect that United have no reason to sell him for dirt cheap because we don't need the peanuts that we would make from the sale. He's not on outrageous wages either, so the transfer makes no sense if it's just for €2m, as we would lose a back-up LB as well as a leader who knows the club inside and out. However, if Evra and/or Nani can be used for negotiations in a Vidal or Pogba deal, I can see value in letting him go for so little because it would allow us to bring a world class player in.
Potentially but it might also be to ensure that they get this 2m euro from Juve. It might seem petty but better getting that than going on a free.
I agree with you in that we should try and keep him and I would prefer that but I do understand why the club would be willing to let him go.
Agreed with that assessment.
Same as. But history portrays that when a targets club plays hard ball then we normally walk. Nani has been a Juve target for years so the papers say, so hoping that Evra will be used as a makeweight for the Vidal/Nani transfer. We won't pay over the odds so hopefully some deal can be made that's best for both us and Juve.
Getting a world class midfielder in return for a good price with the selling club being more receptive is definitely a good deal, no matter which way you look at it.
What a superb piece of business that would be for Arsenal. Would immediately make them contenders.
Indeed. At the end of the day player want two things - success, and money and where the latter is, the former usually follows.
It will be good business for them definitely, but they need a striker before they are serious contenders
What is it about Wenger that makes players want to join. Three trophies in the last 10 years or so for a big club.
London and more stable than Chelsea
Juventus faces his cards, it is a set.Evra, Morata and Iturbe. In more or less short, the intention is to close them all, to give those players Count can also be able to change the module.Evra (new contact today with United, you can close on 2 million) is a specialist defense 4, Iturbe (arrived in Rio where there is already his agent: will be decisive days) can make the exterior of attack how he learned with Mandorlini Morata can do all the roles in front.'s mission Bozzo and Lopez is giving Positives outcomes, the parties are closer, we are filing bonuses and figures that wants to repurchase the Real, maybe it will also serve another small raise from Marotta on the amount ofpurchase., but there is a risk that one of Pogba and Vidal go away?Not at the moment, the signs are opposite.Too, for the most talked about of the moment, Arturo targeted by Van Gaal. Indecent Only Offer can stagger Juve, it is difficult to find a replacement at ensuring goals, weight specific and personality.Regardless, however, one more in midfield is expected player racing, not too expensive.Guarin seems to be excluded, for Rabiot instead there is an agreement with the mom-agent PSG but do not want to deal with who we have now taken away Coman without too many pleasantries.So before you change a card and hope in poker, Juve played his set.That now, in the meantime, more than enough to read the whole market stall.
He can play as their frontman. I have a feeling that it could help be the reason they acquire him too, he seems to prefer a cental position.
For games where you need a more typical target man then Giroud can play there with Sanchez supporting/wide.
What is this? (the tweet not the smiley)
Urgh, i really hope that rumor of Sanchez turning us down because we aren't in the Champs League is true, it will be just too frustrating to take if we simply aren't in for him or we never was in for him.
I second this, a class signing for decent money.
If they are not selling us Vidal and we actually do want him, we shouldn't sell Evra to them. Principles.
I don't get t though, top top players still join clubs that aren't in the CL. Look at City Aguero, Silva, Yaya et al all joined when City weren't in the CL. Same goes for Monaco, it's all down to money at the end of the day. Obviously being in the CL helps but we may have to come to the conclusion that we just weren't in for him.
Maybe LVG isn't going to use our traditional wing play and use Rafa and Shaw as our over lapping wing backs. We just don't know who and how we are going to line up come mid August. Going to be interesting
I'm growing ever more suspicious at @Sport_Witness' claim to be able to read through the entire foreign media of a particular county to confirm or dismiss reports, seemingly within moments of stories breaking.
It just seems strange that a story or rumour will break and quick as a flash @Sports_Witness is there claiming it nonsense, as if they can peruse all of Europe's media sources in less time than it has for the original story to get more than 50 retweets.
It just seems strange that a story or rumour will break and quick as a flash @Sports_Witness is there claiming it nonsense, as if they can peruse all of Europe's media sources in less time than it has for the original story to get more than 50 retweets.
Plus, players know that he's an indulgent manager.
Why I think Chelsea will go in for Pogba knowing Juventus still owe us over £10m
£50m for Pogba would be good business and even better if its only £30m if we Juve still want Ramires or Lukaku.
£50m for Pogba would be good business and even better if its only £30m if we Juve still want Ramires or Lukaku.
Domestic signings though
Or they could see Vidal to us, thereby being able to repay the 10m back to Chelsea knowing full well that Pogbas price will only increase by next summer. Give them a cut deal on Evra as part of the bargain. That's a much better long term solution than selling Pogba for under his valuation.
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