Well you can't have seen him that much considering the Ghana game is the worst he's played all year and he's been nowhere close to that poor in any game. He's dominated 99% of matches and it's pretty evident he'll go on to be something special. Your assessment of 'solid defensively but poor technically' is something you'd typically attribute to a defensive midfielder and you wouldn't have to watch most of them to say that but in his case you're wrong. He's calm on the ball, got a cool head, can pick a pass and can drive forward if he's in a tactic where he's given the freedom to. He's not a clumsy player at all.
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Well you can't have seen him that much considering the Ghana game is the worst he's played all year and he's been nowhere close to that poor in any game. He's dominated 99% of matches and it's pretty evident he'll go on to be something special. Your assessment of 'solid defensively but poor technically' is something you'd typically attribute to a defensive midfielder and you wouldn't have to watch most of them to say that but in his case you're wrong. He's calm on the ball, got a cool head, can pick a pass and can drive forward if he's in a tactic where he's given the freedom to. He's not a clumsy player at all.
If he were on the cards, I think we'd go with what we've got as far as midfield is concerned and wait for Strootman in January with Carrick having half a season to prove his worth in the meantime.
Also, for at least half of the games we play in the PL, having a DM isn't really necessary as we should be putting teams on the back foot and making them work hard in their own half. With no Rio or Vidic here now, we should also be going back to our traditional super high defensive line and LVG likes a CB to be technically good enough to be a sweeper or DM type who can play up and out of defence and sit in midfield when he has to.
We'll be a different animal next season and I think our midfield will primarily revolve around ball retention, pressing and taking the game to the opposition.
Very different players, Strootman is much more intelligent and much more technically gifted. The thing with Strootman is if he can play in a midfield two at United (Carvalho has the presence to do that). Strootman is good enough as a footballer and I think Carvalho is not and he might not every become good enough.
The thing With both of them is that many has never seen them play, but the insane price of Carvalho has made people just og for the conclusion that he is a great footballer. If people are expecting the next Yaya or a Vidal they will be in for one hell of a let down.
It's amazing how quickly people become 'experts' on these young, foreign players. Most of us haven't got a clue but some are lamenting the signing already 
Agree completely.It's amazing how quickly people become 'experts' on these young, foreign players. Most of us haven't got a clue but some are lamenting the signing already
Yep, I think Ogden mentioned in a tweet last week that we'd privately denied interest in Hererra this summer, until the point it became public knowledge the deal was nearly done.
It could be we've done the same with Carvalho.
Vidal is the no.1 target this would be in addition.
God bless you Adnan, you do the work most of us can't be arsed to do.
180m!!!
There is absolutely no way we are going to spend that much on one window. I think we will spend over 100m but not much more.
The level of muppetry knows no bounds these days.
It's amazing how quickly people become 'experts' on these young, foreign players. Most of us haven't got a clue but some are lamenting the signing already
Cold, wet, windy Wednesday night, Stoke, etc etc
That was somewhat what I meant by forming premature opinions.It's amazing how quickly people become 'experts' on these young, foreign players. Most of us haven't got a clue but some are lamenting the signing already
You forgot midfield 2.
Is he?
If our ambition is to be contending for the title and ensure we are back in Europe then yes we will have to spend that kind of money. We've already spent almost 60m on two players.
I always thought it was quite odd how, when Moyes was manager, that we did indeed play Stoke on a Wednesday night....And it was cold. And it was raining and wet. And it was windy. And it was snowing. And there was hail. And there was sleet........Man is cursed.
But yeah, midfield 2...Bloody hell, that one bugs me something serious
Confirmation we're not in for Carvalho:
The Express just said we are.
The Express just said we are.
Says who?
Serge Fagelman looks very sinister/rapey.
@SergeFagelman He is not? I think this article prove you wrong. http://www.sporting.pt/Noticias/Futebol/Fut_Prof/notfutprof_tanakacontratado_290614_129429.asp…
Think I might stop following Serge, seems to know the square root of jack.
It baffles me the figures some people are coming out with, we won the league a year ago and were very unfortunate not to have gone further in Europe. Within 12 months and a stint from a shit manager we now need to spend just south of £200mil to even be in contention! In reality the only real losses we've suffered are Vidic and Fergie. We've replaced the manager with one of similar quality so we can't be that far behind!
SolidState is a ITK I'll have you know.
A bunch of people on Twitter so nothing concrete
He's just going by the news from a group of ITK accounts on twitter, in fairness they got the Luke Shaw signing on Friday completely right.
The numpty kept posting pics of Herrera "at carrington" that were from 2012, and pictures of Luke Shaw "at carrington" when it was Soton's training ground.
Think he's a Tancredi type after the last few days.
He looks like something I want to punch...I can't quite put my finger on why.
Who is this Serge anyway?
They're playing FIFA manager
Just a freelance writer. Nothing suggests he'd have any inside knowledge and it's pretty obvious he doesn't with the amount of shite he spouts.
This. I see us spending big on one more player probably Carvalho, people thinking we wee going to spend £150m-£200m are insane. Malcom would be turning in his grave
Which ITK group? I remember the Herrera tweets, they were so cringy. He's so desperate to be ITK and for people to follow him. Thing is, he doesn't know shit.
He knows feck all. He was at Carrington the other week taking pictures of the security staff and random vans… and him charging his phone…
Saying a load of shit like Shaw was on his way to Carrington and he was there to get the pics first for his followers.
Needless to say, he didn't get shit.
He looks like the kind of person that goes on The Apprentice proclaiming himself to be the next Alan Sugar only to go out in the 2nd week of the show as he is not able to use a calculator.
lol was just thinking same.
That @corrienationstr guy I think? Or something along those lines. He's not a genuine ITK anyway, hasn't a clue.
. @PortuBall Apparently after that he flew to Spain! He is in Marbella. Went there to sign a swedish guy.
Anyone else get the feeling this guy should be on the banned list?
Says the person posting another one of his tweets.
I'm pretty sure I've seen that Serge guy at United games before
He's clueless.
He's clueless.
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