What? I don't think anyone would argue with that tweet. It's not a minority opinion
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Oh lovely, one of those "everyone on the forum is saying something" posts.
Do you actually read the forum? About 99.99% are saying we're crying out for a midfielder and a defender still.
The only thing some are (rightfully) saying is that the wings needed addressing just as much as those positions. Young and Valencia are bottom half players.
Yeah, probably not unlikely that he leaves, but still the LvG quote was him explaining why he didn't use him in CM at the end and went with Adnan there. He even went on to say that he asked Adnan if he could play that role and he said yes, but yesterday it looked as if he hadn't played there many times before.
We need another left back/defender and one central midfielder for certain, I don't think anybody will dispute that. Another midfielder would also be beneficial. Provided we revert back to a four man defence I think we're solid at centre half. With that comes patience and trust.
The fact that nearly half of that figure was spent on defense and midfield and Di Maria can play midfield too, makes it a pretty stupid comment.
The only poor signing was Fellaini.
Shaw, Herrera, Rojo plus (Di Maria can play midfield) plus more to come probably specifically in midfield. Plus the fact that we don't have any wingers of quality either.
It just highlights how shite the squad was in the first place, that you can spend that money and bring in 2 defenders and a midfielder of quality and you are still lightweight there.
He's right. We do need another defender and midfielder. We all know that. But so far we've seen Herrera, Shaw and Rojo who make up a fair chunk of that money for a combined total of about an hour in the first team.
Tbf if we went to a diamond I don't think a midfield off Carrick, Herrera, Di Maria and Mata is lightweight in terms of quality at al, and the first 3 are all either defensively strong or have strong work rates to help. Beyond that it's pretty damn light though.
From what I can see most people are suggesting that even if we sign Di maria we still need a midfielder and another defender, just that they feel we deed someone of Di Maria's ilk just as much.
Why do we need another left back ?
Central midfieldier is most needed but we have already spent 130 million this summer.
But we had 3 major problem areas. The wings, defense and central mid. We have bought a CM, a LB, a CB and now a class winger. Mata was a luxury buy but he's so good we couldn't turn down such an opportunity and Fellaini is a scandal we'd all like to forget. Yes we still need a class CM and a leading CB but it shouldn't stop us from securing a class winger when one is available. That's the reason most people are fighting with you and journos alike on this. It will take another 50m to 100m before we get where we need to be. We might balk at those figures but considering the major under investment it's more a case of catch up spending
We don't but id argue we need another right back. Valencia was fecking woeful yesterday.
What? I don't think anyone would argue with that tweet. It's not a minority opinion
Obviously I didn't mean everyone on the forum. There is a sizeable number though that don't understand that buying Di Maria means there's a huge possibility that we won't be signing quality in other positions that we need. You try to say that and your response is "stop fecking talking about the fee". Apparently that's not reason enough to be worried that we're overpaying for Di Maria. So much talk about United misspending yet when some seem to think we're doing it again, people are expected to hush up and not speak about it. He's shown he's world class in the same position Mata plays and he isn't world class on the wing which is another problem area.
I fully expect United to sign Blind and De Jong will not be enough. Our defence and midfield will still be a tad lightweight. I don't care that we're buying Di Maria but I most definitely am concerned about the fee, which is a rip off and takes a bit of the glee of signing Di Maria as it means we'll probably not buy a quality midfield and defender which is what we need.
Because we only have one, and he's 19. Rojo is a centre half for the most part and I'd like to think he's been purchased to play there. Blind makes so much sense in this respect. Both a midfielder and a cover full back. He'd give us good competition in two positions.
Rumors about our war chest this summer were not wrong then it seems, our spending isn't even over yet either.
Don't be surprised if Di Maria isn't the only expensive signing.
Time will tell but I think Di Maria will be another luxury buy like Mata. I think he'll have more of an effect but the truth of the matter is he'll be playing in the same role as Mata in our system so one will probably not have a great effect in our team. As a winger, he's good but he's inconsistent and reminds me of Nani in his olden days when he just couldn't do it all the time and went missing in the big games more often than not. Thank God he changed position last year as he genuinely turned into a world class player and showed us he can play in CM in a 4-3-3 or 3-5-2.
He's a brilliant signing, don't get me wrong, and I'm chuffed he's here, but for me it's still a luxury signing. I just wish we'd sorted out our midfield and defence with quality rather than quantity before we signed Di Maria. Blind and De Jong while better than we've got are still very average.
He was ridiculous. Every time there was a chance to take his defender on he passed it sideways
It'll be Blind and De Jong is be happy with for this season. Don't forget we are ravaged with injuries to first team starters.
Which is funny because the one time he did, we scored. You'd think he'd get that by now.
Have you watched him at all? This is so wrong.
It might be right but we couldnt solve all our issues in one window after not doing it for the past 5 years
Valencia and Cleverley made the same mistakes the whole game. Stop. Pass sideways. Repeat. Valencia was as much to blame for yesterday as anybody else. He's a real problem and should not be anywhere near our first 11.
Why is everyone worried about CM, we will clearly sign a central midfielder before the window closes. AdM was a difficult signing to pull off and I guess we'll try for Vidal, if it doesn't work then we'll sign a player within 24 hours [either De Jong Or Blind] though I'll prefer De Jong over Blind.
That defence looks lightweight because four potential first choice players are injured and our new signing who can cover both CB and LB is currently not eligible to play. Get Evans, Rafael, Shaw, Smalling and Rojo in there and the situation is different from the current one. Unless we say one in and one out another new defender will be very close to overcrowding the backline.
In midfield I'm in total agreement with you, we need one more urgently. Because by the time Carrick returns we could be out of the reckoning in any league permutations, be it the title or top four.
By tomorrow does he mean Monday or Tuesday? Damn it. I want to see him holding a United jersey with Woodie grinning near him before I start stroking it
He's played on the left of a midfield three with RM. Central midfield where Mata finds himself in this system, granted Mata is ahead of two central players rather than on the left. What I meant was he'll play instead of Mata. Out of Mata, Herrera, Carrick and Di Maria, the most balanced midfield consists of the latter three. He'll take Mata's place.
Stand your ground. Don't accept that. Don't let them get Carvalho. We will like to have him next summer
I'm guessing that means we'll hear some kind of official announcement today.
Don't we usually announce a fee has been agreed and the sorts and the player will be joining us pending medical and agreement of personal terms? Am looking forward to seeing that pop up on manutd twitter!
We sometimes do announce club agreements but not always. On the bright side if Norwood says that Angel is coming then it is 100% certain
The real quesiton is though whether overpaying for Di maria was worth it without addressing our main problem areas particularly midfield or would buying a quality CM and CB improved us more especially given our new formation. You say this and 5 people jump up telling you How good Di Maria is.
If we have a 200 million warchest and gonna spend more then no problem, but if we don't and this is it then LVG has laid his bed. He should hope for Herrera and Carrick to stay injury free along with our defenders and/or change formation and keep them cotton wooled or make it work how SAF did. No excuses. Or if he can sign 2nd/3rd tier midfielders and make it work then so be it.
The problem is not this transfer window, but the last one. Having spent 65m on Mata and Fellaini was a big mistake. We could have gone for a defender, and one or 2 CMs and the we wouldnt have the problems that we have now.
David Moyes.
I think the defence is fine. We have Shaw, Rojo, Rafael and Evans to come in. We desperately need a couple of midfielders and have for a long time.
It must be good signing for the club; private helicopters, private jets, dayum.
Well obviously you're entitled to your concerns but van Gaal is not someone who would just buy a muppet signing for the sake of it and he will definitely feel that Di Maria is a crucial purchase for what he wants to achieve. He will also know the squad weaknesses as well as anyone else by now and that's the reason he will almost inevitably strengthen those positions as well. You seem to be under the impression that van Gaal is choosing a big money signing in attack instead of one in midfield but that probably is not the case. They will have weighed up who they need, who they want and who is available. Maybe they don't think or want any of the big money midfielders that are around and want to pursue lesser value players and therefore have concluded that spending big on Di Maria is feasible. Also, we need another midfielder for certain but our main problem at the moment is that our two main/best/proper midfielders are both injured. Carrick, Herrera and hopefully a new signing with Fletcher as backup is a decent pool to choose from.
Not necessarily. If we play a similar formation, Mata could well be in the front three. Basically none of us know what LvG is planning and I doubt he has signed Di Maria as Mata's replacement, they both offer different things.
I thought Valencia did alright yesterday tbh. Real problem was lack of control in the match in midfield and front 3 not clicking.
Wingbacks aren't exactly expected to bomb up the flanks, dribble past their men and create chances like a winger in this formation. Though it can help if they do obviously. See the Dutch team and Juventus even for example. They are supplementary attackers who need to be solid defensively. He was solid particularly 2nd half and created our goal.
We can upgrade on him, though we have Rafael as well but still CM has to be foremost concern.
Yep, that's potentially the entire first choice back 4.
Is it just me who suddenly really likes Ballague since he broke the news about Di Maria? 
He just seemed to excited.
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