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Blind and Di Maria would be a great week. Big fan of Blind. Harder working and talented. Love that type of player.
 
Bring in Blind now and that's our DM and LB sorted. Just a proper CM and I'll be very happy with the squad although another CB would be nice.
 
That's a fair point actually. So I do wonder what other viable CM targets LvG has in mind.

De Jong, but saw some journalists talk about United definitely having targets that no one knew about, which made me wonder what CM targets out there would be available at a reasonable price, while they'd probably accept a squad rotation role from next season one.
Perhaps Schneiderlin from Southampton could be an option, we could definitely do a hell lot worse than him, Carvalho is probably a bit too expensive currently, but besides those 2 (and De Jong/Blind), i've been unable to think of any other targets after those Ancelotti quotes on Khedira.
 
De Jong, but saw some journalists talk about United definitely having targets that no one knew about, which made me wonder what CM targets out there would be available at a reasonable price, while they'd probably accept a squad rotation role from next season one.
Perhaps Schneiderlin from Southampton could be an option, we could definitely do a hell lot worse than him, Carvalho is probably a bit too expensive currently, but besides those 2 (and De Jong/Blind), i've been unable to think of any other targets after those Ancelotti quotes on Khedira.
I think no one in the press had much of a clue that we were after Rojo and Lucas Silva, so its likely that there could be someone out there that we're looking at.
 
Van Gaal: We need an Angel to perform a miracle for us to win the league. I embellished, sue me.
 
That's interesting, if it's an accurate quote then it's good imo that he doesn't see Rooney as, as strong a number ten as say Mata. Hopefully though he's looking in to other formations like a diamond. What Di Maria if he's coming up the pitch with his work rate a bonus not a necessity.
I think, in these circumstances, a midfield diamond is the best way forward given the work Di Maria and Herrera put in. With Blind/De Jong playing at the base and Mata at the tip we have enough to steamroll past three quarters of the league, if Di Maria comes and LvG wishes to play all of his superstars in one team then the diamond is the only way to go. Januzaj can always come in for Mata/Rooney/Van Persie to change into a 4-3-3.
 
What a brilliant signing. Brings much needed pace and creativity into our team. What a player.

Be careful of the "commentators curse" man :nervous:

Di Maria, is the closest type i've seen to Giggsy in the modern era. They've almost identical styles. The ol'skool winger has somewhat gone out of fashion & thats why everyone loves Di Maria.

I'd love us to effectively play 4-4-2 again. Vidal & Herrera in CM, Di Maria on the left & Cuadrado on the right, with Rooney/Mata/RVP ahead.

4-4-3 should be the main aim though - not just this 5-2-1-2 shizzle. We shouldnt be basing a world class forward player's ability on his defending. Ronnie wouldnt have been given a look-in under that system & the same shit applies to Adnan.

Van Gaal complains about how he cant play in a certain way because he doesnt have the players at his disposal. Go & buy them though. Pay the asking fee Ed & stop bragging about how rich we are. Its feckin pathetic.

I trust LvG long-term though. I just cant get, that we're gonna have to struggle to get back to the top, when money talks to get the players in now & achieve that aim this season - not 2 seasons down the line.
 
So you have a player like AdM choosing us over PSG and Juve, who are both in Europe this season and genuine teams on the up and up, yet the scousers still think the promise of 6 group games as a third seed team is enough to get any player they want over United.

:lol:

PSG can't afford him because of FFP and Juve just can't afford him

Whatever - their loss is our gain.

Not being in the CL will have an effect but most players will, I suspect, look more long term.
 
If di Maria maintains his form and we get in blind and Lucas, there is no reason this LVG-led side cannot challenge for the title.

For that to happen Rojo needs to perform in a big way.

We'd be ok going forward but still, for me, lacking experience at the back.
 
I think, in these circumstances, a midfield diamond is the best way forward given the work Di Maria and Herrera put in. With Blind/De Jong playing at the base and Mata at the tip we have enough to steamroll past three quarters of the league, if Di Maria comes and LvG wishes to play all of his superstars in one team then the diamond is the only way to go. Januzaj can always come in for Mata/Rooney/Van Persie to change into a 4-3-3.

Yeah, although I'm more than happy with Carrick at the base, he won't be anywhere near as exposed with the work rate that Herrera has shown and Di Maria has and the onus won't be on him to do everything in the middle as it has been. I'd like to see a 433 with di maria/januzaj flanking rooney/rvp and mata in the a/m role but I think if we can get the diamond to work it would be good.

I'm sure januzaj will get good time given he can play so many roles. Tbf though if he continues on the path he was he might force his way in as he can give something very different to Rooney/RVP who are both similar players in terms of leading the line.
 
Yeah, although I'm more than happy with Carrick at the base, he won't be anywhere near as exposed with the work rate that Herrera has shown and Di Maria has and the onus won't be on him to do everything in the middle as it has been. I'd like to see a 433 with di maria/januzaj flanking rooney/rvp and mata in the a/m role but I think if we can get the diamond to work it would be good.

I'm sure januzaj will get good time given he can play so many roles. Tbf though if he continues on the path he was he might force his way in as he can give something very different to Rooney/RVP who are both similar players in terms of leading the line.
Yeah Carrick is natural for the role but he is on his way out and I think Blind will surprise many people in midfield. Intelligent players like him will always transition better than the rest, he will be an unspectacular but vital cog of the machine.
 
Yeah Carrick is natural for the role but he is on his way out and I think Blind will surprise many people in midfield. Intelligent players like him will always transition better than the rest, he will be an unspectacular but vital cog of the machine.

Potentially, need back up there regardless I guess. I think though Carrick will surprise a lot of people when he's fit, with players who will do their share of the work defensively and can take responsibility to make things happen will help massively. But true we do need to look at a successor for him. Think we can hold out and wait for Strootman though if LVG thinks he can get him.
 

And herein lies my confusion with di Maria. Are we really going to play him as a wingback? Mental. Amazing, but mental. This is going to be some season to watch.
 
And herein lies my confusion with di Maria. Are we really going to play him as a wingback? Mental. Amazing, but mental. This is going to be some season to watch.

Not a chance, you don't sign a player like him only to deploy him as a wing-back.
 

Not a chance, you don't sign a player like him only to deploy him as a wing-back.

But then we've still got the problem van Gaal mentioned in the tweet I quoted, except adding Mata to the conundrum. Obviously there'll be injuries and we won't always have all our best players available/in form, but you don't spend £60m on a player to give yourself more options, it's as a guaranteed starter. I just like to know what our best 11 would be if everyone was fit, if di Maria's coming in then I'm really not sure how one of our best players isn't benched. Unless he's being played as a wingback, which seems, as previously mentioned, somewhat mental.
 
It's very rare these days that you get both van Persie and Rooney fit at the same time anyway
 
Absolutely RR.

A shit defence - like we have, always gives the opposition hope. We seen that last Sat against Swansea.

Its not the lack of experience either. Evans is our only good CB, but he's always injured. Rafa's our only decent RB & he's always injured too.

Its rediculous to play 3 CB's at the back, when they're all injury prone & apart from Evans - they're not top 4 standard, if even that.

We need atleast 1 top-class CB & a RB - not to mention a world-class CM, if we wanna compete for the title. 4th spot is not a trophy & we have the money to make us contenders.

Last season wasnt just a blip with a shit manager - it was a wake-up call that our squad needed upgrading.

Look at how many squad players have left the club already: Rio, Vida, Evra, Buttner, Nani, Giggsy (retired). Not to mention the under-performers that need shifting out too.

We are a world behind gettin our house in order like most top teams. And the MK Dons game on Tuesday sums up how scared other teams are about us.

They're not. MK have sold out because they expect to beat us & none of their fans want to miss that![/QUOTE]

In jest, perhaps, but that's a ridiculous statement. They sell out because they're playing United, as has always been the case in games like these.
 
Absolutely RR.

A shit defence - like we have, always gives the opposition hope. We seen that last Sat against Swansea.

Its not the lack of experience either. Evans is our only good CB, but he's always injured. Rafa's our only decent RB & he's always injured too.

Its rediculous to play 3 CB's at the back, when they're all injury prone & apart from Evans - they're not top 4 standard, if even that.

We need atleast 1 top-class CB & a RB - not to mention a world-class CM, if we wanna compete for the title. 4th spot is not a trophy & we have the money to make us contenders.

Last season wasnt just a blip with a shit manager - it was a wake-up call that our squad needed upgrading.

Look at how many squad players have left the club already: Rio, Vida, Evra, Buttner, Nani, Giggsy (retired). Not to mention the under-performers that need shifting out too.

We are a world behind gettin our house in order like most top teams. And the MK Dons game on Tuesday sums up how scared other teams are about us.

They're not. MK have sold out because they expect to beat us & none of their fans want to miss that!
I'll have some of what you're smoking. They've sold out because they're playing Utd. The same would've been true 5 years ago.
 
I like the idea of Di Maria at the head of the formation, but he's nothing like Robben. The 'Robben role' was basically to lead every counter, stay upfield and never defend. Di Maria tracks back brilliantly so I'd imagine the formation would need a tweak or two - perhaps Mata in a more advanced role and Di Maria behind.

They're both quick and left footed. Like you say, they're very different player.
 
Robben is a goalscorer much more than Di Maria as well.

With Di Maria in the team in that role we lack goals.
 
We have enough players to play up top. We need someone a little deeper to start the counter. Whether we play Di Maria on the wing or in CM, he is more than capable of starting counters from deep. I would prefer he doesn't play in the 2 in the 3-5-2 formation but a bit deeper.

Then you're dropping Mata and replacing him with a different skillset in a more defensive formation.
 
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