Nope, Europa League.
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Nope, Europa League.
We can't argue Moyes fecked up a title winning side and then say after we have strengthened that we are total cack. Yes, City and Chelsea have strengthened, but they still drop points against pretty poor teams. Every year people say Arsenal, but they don't have the bottle, they certainly have the skill. Like Liverpool when the pressure is on they fell apart. Liverpool have gone for quantity rather than quality. Apart from Lovren I don't think they bought one first 11 player.
Last year many on here gave Evra grief game after game. Shaw, Rojo and Blackett should provide more consistency.
Rio/Vidic/Evans/Smalling/Jones/Rafael largely injured and played out of position. We will now have stability. Rojo should provide the aggression that Vidic provided and probably the speed of Rio.
No bite in midfield, we have added Herrera, and loss the creativity of Giggs. It is progress. Can we do more yes.
Adnan a year older and wiser hopefully. Lingaard and Wilson might step up.
It is not all doom and gloom. I do not believe we are that far off. In fact, between Arsenal, Liverpool, United, Spurs and Everton I doubt there is more than 6 points difference this year.
He'll find plenty with ambition to snare a wealthy footballer.
If its between Inter and us, it isnt even a contest, in fact between any Italian team and us we will win.
If we miss out on the Champions League 2 years running that may change but for now, we are ahead of them in every department.
No you've got that all wrong it goes like this:
Monitor the situation
Analyze the situation
Make our presence felt
Consider a bid
At this point the selling club catches wind of our monitoring and considering and "braces themselves for a bid"
Prepare the Bid
Agree Personal Terms (Not Really)
Bid is now imminent
Rival club shows interest and signs him within the week
We deny all interest
Our Woody typical types takes at least a week to complete each stage.
Doubt we would get a work permit.
Let's be honest, the title-winning side we had two seasons ago was nowhere near good enough. For the duration of that season I remember shaking my head at the way we managed to scrape home with win after win against the lower-table and mid-table teams. We really were ever so lucky that season and the other big clubs were struggling themselves. We didn't address the obvious deficiencies in our squad while others improved in great bounding leaps and so we are where we are.
I think most people agree Mata is a very good player. The consensus of it being a mistake is that is was a purchase of nearly £40m in pretty much the only position that didnt need strengthening, and it wasnt a signing to replace what we already have. I like Mata, I think he is perhaps over rated by many (not to say he isnt very good) but adding a player we didnt need to the only other signing last season being one personally I definately never wanted, that was the point I totally lost faith in having any patience with Moyes.
Reading hints between Ancelotti, LvG, Rojo, I think United are negotiating a deal for Di Maria. I think it will go to the final week and hopefully we'll end up buying for 40-45 Million.
Depends on how far the 'deal' has gone.
You say that but we were on course to break the PL points record before slacking off late. That points total would have won the PL almost every season. Even the season before we only lost on point difference.
And in CL we would have made the CL semi's probably atleast if not for Mr. Cakir.
Yeah, the football we were playing wasn't cohesive or pretty except few spells but we still had enough quality and have actually added since and lost some as well.
What hints has Rojo given off?
Manchester United's signing of Marcos Rojo took their expenditure this summer to 72 million pounds ($120 million), making it a club-record outlay for any transfer window.
http://www.espnfc.us/manchester-uni...-record-72-million-pounds-on-summer-transfers
http://www.espnfc.us/manchester-uni...-record-72-million-pounds-on-summer-transfers
Not exactly surprising considering transfer fees are going up all the time because of muppet spending by the likes of City and PSG.
We lost practically our whole defense plus had multiple departures, we need to spend quite a bit more
Brenton found himself a stunner. I don't know if she's from Liverpool or London though. So there's hope for Sturridge.
Brenton finds himself a lot of stunners.....If you catch my drift
A picture of them celebrating together with image of United in the background. IIRC it was posted on instagram.
What has he done to earn that?
He does a great Scott Parker impression
As much as I disliked the way Glazers took over at United, I don't think spending, or lack off this last year has been due to any fault on their part.
Yeah we should just let him go for free. The faces he pulls alone are worth that in entertainment value
I think you make some good points, but at the same time you are looking with rose tinted glasses. Ou rtitle winning side didnt play good football and wasnt a strong side. It was abundantly clear it needed major strengthening before Fergie retired and we spent enarly £70m last year, yes Moyes spend the money badly and fecked up in terms of what we needed for sure.
I think Shaw is a gret long term signing, I think Herrera is a good signing from what I have seen of him. I can only comment on Rojo from what I saw in the world cup, where I was quite impressed having not heard of him........BUT although players were starting to age we have lost 4 of our most experienced players from a WEAK side. We are definately in my opinion at least two (I would suggest) really top quality signings away from really struggling to get in the top four this season. Commercially, attracting players etc etc etc not qualifying for the CL this season would be an absolute disaster and genuinely could bring on a period of decline.
Rojo taking over from Agent De Gea, i see.
Agreed!
65 million for both Mata and Fellaini could have been spent on better and more options for positions where we are severely short
Agent De Gea is head of our Spanish operations. Rojo is the Argie head
Nobody is saying Jones should go on a free, but why are we improving his wage packet? He hasn't merited that. It's just typical of us to put players on large wages then have issues when/if we need to sell them.
Fecking hell, so United could sign Vidal, Di Maria, anyone, and it's still a mess?
"proper clubs" never complete transfers late in the windows? The likes of Bayern never do that?
Rojo's just a pumped up transfer muppet living the dream. He knows nothing.
It was the lack of spending leading up to it that has been so poor though. Now we've got to bandage up a team that should have never been allowed to decay to this point in the first place. What other top side would have persisted with the likes of Nani, Anderson, Cleverley, etc or even Giggs & Scholes for so long? As a result, we've got a squad with some areas that are ready to win now and others that just are not good enough (yet? Never will be? Not sure).
Obviously United's hierarchy think differently. Jones was possibly on around 35k when he signed.
That's why I said the last year in my post.
He has two years left to go on his contract. I'd hold off on giving a pay rise until we see how performs this season when he's the main guy at the back. Make him earn it. Because right now, there's no way he deserves a £25k boost to his wages.
Same applies to Cleverley if the rumours of him signing a new contract are true. Why is the club rewarding average/poor performers with pay rises?
Here we go again.
Linked with player:
"JUST THROW ALL THE feckING MONEY AT HIM! Who cares about money? Get it done, it's not coming out of my pocket so who cares!!!"
Slightly raise the wages of one of our players:
"WHAT THE feck HAS THIS GUY DONE TO DESERVE THAT? How dare we spend that amount of money on his wages!!!"
Manchester United fans, always providing the laughs on a daily basis.
Linked with player:
"JUST THROW ALL THE feckING MONEY AT HIM! Who cares about money? Get it done, it's not coming out of my pocket so who cares!!!"
Slightly raise the wages of one of our players:
"WHAT THE feck HAS THIS GUY DONE TO DESERVE THAT? How dare we spend that amount of money on his wages!!!"
Manchester United fans, always providing the laughs on a daily basis.
Cleverley has 1 year left on his deal and while he has been poor for last year and bit or anything we can't just let him go for free.
Jones was decent to good even last season amongst all the dross played all over the place with injury breaks and has had some pretty good performances. It would be stupid to not give him a new contract given his potential. If he performs this season his wage demands will only go up from 70k even.
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