Are you getting their names confused for some reason?. Welbeck has a better technique than Macheda, there's no questions about that. If anything, i'd rate macheda's chances lower than Welbeck. But i hope both come through though.
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Are you getting their names confused for some reason?. Welbeck has a better technique than Macheda, there's no questions about that. If anything, i'd rate macheda's chances lower than Welbeck. But i hope both come through though.
Fergie isnt daft though. If theyre good enough then they're old enough. We'll make sure that we can keep them happy at the club and not slow their development, afterall they could be the future of the club. If he thinks they're good enough then he'd sooner see Berbatov or Owen leave than two young, promising players.
If Fergie refuses to give Welbeck a chance, then he will be making a grave error. We cannot allow another Rossi situation to happen, Welbeck is too talented.
He is a far greater prospect than Macheda, and I promise he is even more talented than Chicharito.
He is a far greater prospect than Macheda, and I promise he is even more talented than Chicharito.
I agree, particularly with your last point. I got laughed at in he newbies when I said that Welbeck could potentially become our second choice striker this season if he plays as well as he is capable of. A Rooney-Welbeck partnership could see us produce some of our best attacking football in years in my opinion, much like when Saha was linking with Rooney.
I reckon I'll go with Fergies decision over yours.
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#Inter & Ever #Banega have a verbal agreement,but Valencia are demanding €10m. Still, Inter's first choice remains Sao Paulo's #Casemiro #fb
Just 10m?
#Inter & Ever #Banega have a verbal agreement,but Valencia are demanding €10m. Still, Inter's first choice remains Sao Paulo's #Casemiro #fb
Just 10m?
I don't know how anyone can watch the two and think Maceda has more technical ability. Welbeck quite a long way ahead of Macheda at the moment.
Gazzetta claims that Sneijder deal may happen despite the scepticism among British tabloids
Scepticism? These same British tabloids were convinced the deal will be completed by today before Gill flies off to America
Welbeck and Macheda are 20 and 19, respectively. That's still very young for players at a club that is the size of Manchester United, and particularly in a role that is as important as striker/forward.
The club appears to be following strategy in order to develop players with a view to them becoming genuine first team members as late as 21-23 years of age, at which point performances become indistinguishable from the rest of the first team, both in terms of consistency and maturity (see Rooney and Ronaldo, for example, but also Beckham, Scholes, etc).
That obviously doesn't mean that they won't be given any game time before that point, only that the evidence overwhelmingly suggests that it is at that point that players start to mature. While 21-23 years of age may seem too old, particularly as other clubs use players at a much younger age, a club as successful as United can't really afford to develop too many players within the first team squad.
If a player is going to make a meaningful contribution, then their performances need to be at a similar level to that of their peers, particularly if they are to be trusted in the number (and importance) of games that would be required to develop them in the first team.
There does appear to be a difference between foreign born and British/Irish born players, and also players that have come from the academy and those that are bought from other clubs. The club doesn't appear to want to loan out foreign players and/or players that are bought from other clubs. They need time to develop and understand the demands of playing for Manchester United, which is obviously something that requires them being around the first team squad.
I also disagree with your assessment of Welbeck and Macheda. Both are very different players. Macheda is probably the more natural finisher, whereas Welbeck is much better technically (as 'technique' involves every touch of the ball, although it is a rather vague term). Macheda is more suited to the number nine role, whereas Welbeck is very much a player that drops off in to the hole.
Both players have a good chance, in my opinion, as in a years time it is conceivable that both Owen and Berbatov will no longer be at the club.
That is value
We have both of them at the club, and they could go on and be very good United players. What's the silly comparison between them for?
And he's flying to within a couple hours of Nike's corporate headquarters. No doubt there's legs left in the story - I'm sure the papers will make the same connection I did in the Sneijder thread.
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Very good post Joga!
I'm glad our coaching staff have faith in our talented young players. Not every one will come good but we need to show future prospects that there also is a road to go from our academy.
Btw. I was very impressed with Macheda's in our last game. Looks like he has improved his physique and one of his goals was pure class.
Skysports.com understands Blackpool have agreed fee with Birmingham for Barry Ferguson.
This would be a wierd move
This.
It's football forum and they're both footballers.
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Zamparini says Pastore can go on co-ownership but only abroad... Don't know too many clubs outside of Italy using that system.
Zampa also says that Milan is probably the only team that can afford Pastore in Italy because the President promised a gift.
Zamparini says Pastore can go on co-ownership but only abroad... Don't know too many clubs outside of Italy using that system.
Zampa also says that Milan is probably the only team that can afford Pastore in Italy because the President promised a gift.
Btw Howard Nurse is now saying that Sneijder deal is not imminent, but still possible.
Yep read that. He's completely unreliable now it seems.
What Macheda needs is loads of playing time, he's not going to find that many with us. His game would improve a lot with a proper season playing games for a decent team.
And Welbeck deserves a shot at our squad after a pretty successful loan at Sunderland, he's proven himself to be more than able to go against most defenders in the league.
On a sidenote: Just imagine defenders peeing in their pants when they see Rooney, Hernandez, Welbeck, Nani and Valencia all bombing towards them at top speed
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Cocks out?
Magnificent!
He works for The Sun. Keep those cocks firmly in.
- Watch carefully for when Inter buy a midfielder.
I still reckon we'll sign him. Has David Gill joined up with the squad in the US yet?
What Macheda needs is loads of playing time, he's not going to find that many with us. His game would improve a lot with a proper season playing games for a decent team.
And Welbeck deserves a shot at our squad after a pretty successful loan at Sunderland, he's proven himself to be more than able to go against most defenders in the league.
On a sidenote: Just imagine defenders peeing in their pants when they see Rooney, Hernandez, Welbeck, Nani and Valencia all bombing towards them at top speed
Edit: Grammer errors
Exactly my point Wellbeck gives us something we already have which is pace. Macheda offers us something different if we need to change things tactically for instance. I still say send Wellbeck out and keep Macheda!
I hope we sign Modric and not Sneijder or Nasri. But it seems less likely.
We will sign Pastore,all this Sneijder stuff is a smokescreen I tell ya.
I believe he used to, no longer does?
I just think there's too much on this for it not to happen now. It simply won't go away, and I think it could really happen.
Just hurry up for god sake!
Just hurry up for god sake!
The question is whether or not he´s good enough to force his way into the side on a regular basis.
He did well at Sunderland last year but that´s not enough. As things stand, he´ll have to take any chance he gets with both hands to stay ahead of Hernandez and Berbatov to partner Rooney.
To suggest he´s better than Hernandez has little basis in fact. Hernandez was outstanding last season, which is especially surprising given that it was his first in a new country. Welbeck had a good season last year but no better than a lot of other players, whereas hernndez was a revelation playing a role that few players in the PL can.
For what its worth, having watched Welbeck I personally dont think he´ll ever be a regular at United. He has a lot of energy and a fair bit of pace but he neither leads the line nor plays deep. His control sometimes lets him down as well. That said his versatility is an asset. I do of course hope I´m wrong and think he deserves a chance this season to show waht he can do.
This!
Not good enough to be more then a squad player. But that isn't a bad thing, he will get plenty of games to play as a sub or as a starter in CC, FA and CL.
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