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The speculation suggests it is because of his attitude and ego. There is no way we would get rid of him on the back of his ability.
 
Ramshock said:
If theres truth to this then it rests soley on the players shoulders. Nani is close with Ronaldo and knows how much hard work it takes to be a world class player. I just never get the impression he works at his game, FK taking for example is something he should keep working on.
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You don't see the improvement in his game? Three years back could you imagine Nani getting involved in some of the short passing moves he was with Welbeck? His intelligence on the football pitch, barring the odd exceptions, has come on leaps and bounds. He's been heavily involved in some of our best team goals in recent times (community shield vs City, the chipped goal vs Everton etc ) and that shows how much he's improved.

What I think he can improve at is his urgency when he plays. It's something I've liked about Eden Hazard in the few times I've seen him for Chelsea. Like Nani, he's a gifted technician, but he's very urgent and purposeful in everything he does. Nani does, at times, come across as a bit too casual and laid back.
 
Striker10 said:
I don't think threre's anything in it. It would be pointless selling Nani this summer certainly. I think the contract situation, and that 'story' about us wanting to sell Anderson and Nani has gone to some peoples head. We dropped Nani and Rooney, because both were useless at Everton. Nani's selections up to his performances in training. I think though from a Journo's angle, they'll be thinking maybe get rid of Nani and you can have Rooney or welbeck on one of the wings making it easier for Sir Alex. If we didn't sell him this summer, I doubt we've designs to sell him next, with only a year left...
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So the logic is sell this summer surely?
 
Ash_G said:
Yeah but if we were going to a front 3 then Nani is easily the most suited out of all our attackers, Rooney and RVP included, to play either side of the striker. It's arguably his best position and where he excelled in the Euro's.
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Exactly, if we want to play a front 3, it makes even less sense to sell him.
 
Its an absolutely ridiculous situation to be in really, selling Nani would be a fecking massive step back for us. It'l only leave us with 2 wingers for one.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
What I think he can improve at is his urgency when he plays. It's something I've liked about Eden Hazard in the few times I've seen him for Chelsea. Like Nani, he's a gifted technician, but he's very urgent and purposeful in everything he does. Nani does, at times, come across as a bit too casual and laid back.
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Totally agree.

One thing about Hazard is that he is full of purpose, totally direct and decisive. Nani, on the other hand, often slows right down to walking pace.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
You don't see the improvement in his game? Three years back could you imagine Nani getting involved in some of the short passing moves he was with Welbeck? His intelligence on the football pitch, barring the odd exceptions, has come on leaps and bounds. He's been heavily involved in some of our best team goals in recent times (community shield vs City, the chipped goal vs Everton etc ) and that shows how much he's improved.

What I think he can improve at is his urgency when he plays. It's something I've liked about Eden Hazard in the few times I've seen him for Chelsea. Like Nani, he's a gifted technician, but he's very urgent and purposeful in everything he does. Nani does, at times, come across as a bit too casual and laid back.
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Of course there has been an improvement but imo he is behind where he should be.
 
Ramshock said:
Of course there has been an improvement but imo he is behind where he should be.
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Not at all. He's 25 and development can come quickly. It's easy to be negative when it's not going right for people. A stormer next game and people think different.
 
Jimy_Hills_Chin said:
Totally agree.

One thing about Hazard is that he is full of purpose, totally direct and decisive. Nani, on the other hand, often slows right down to walking pace.
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That's the thing I really don't like about nani. He has the ability to be really direct when he gets the ball, but he usually slows down. He needs to take a cue from valencia who always runs at pace at the defenders.
 
Escobar said:
If people cant see Nani's quality from the last 2 years, they will never do so
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The difference between Nani and Valencia - is that when Valencia has a poor game, he still contributes. When Nani has a poor game - he is terrible
 
lysglimt said:
The difference between Nani and Valencia - is that when Valencia has a poor game, he still contributes. When Nani has a poor game - he is terrible
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That's a myth. When Valencia has a poor game he just works hard. He's had loads of terrible games where he's done nothing useful, like all of our players have.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
That's a myth. When Valencia has a poor game he just works hard. He's had loads of terrible games where he's done nothing useful, like all of our players have.
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I think that was his point. Rooney and Valencia still offer the work rate when playing poorly. When Nani has a bad game he offers nothing, absolutely nothing and is a virtual passenger.
 
Redfighter said:
I think that was his point. Rooney and Valencia still offer the work rate when playing poorly. When Nani has a bad game he offers nothing, absolutely nothing and is a virtual passenger.
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When Nani has an off day he is still more likely to produce match winning moments than Valencia but works less hard. It's a trade off. It's silly to claim he offers absolutely nothing.

Also, Nani does work hard. Just not as hard as Valencia. But he's better in other areas.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
When Nani has an off day he is still more likely to produce match winning moments than Valencia but works less hard. It's a trade off. It's silly to claim he offers absolutely nothing.

Also, Nani does work hard. Just not as hard as Valencia. But he's better in other areas.
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I agree he can produce that one moment in a game but it's about 1 in every 3 games. I think that's one of his biggest problems and the reason for the frustration amongst fans, it's the consistency. Valencia may be less technically gifted and offer less as a player, but me personally, I would rather have a very good player offer my team consistent performances, than a world class player offer it once every month. And if that player doesn't have the desire to play for United any more then the answer is a no brainer.
 
Wow, Nani is seriously underrated by some. On a bad day Nani is more likely to give you something than Valencia will in attack at least. If Valencia can't beat his man that he'll keep possession and work hard, Nani will work hard but is also able to come up with a piece of magic to win you a game or a trick that gives us a free kick in a good area, he'll also likely lose possession more than Valencia but that's a result of him trying to do something tough. End off the day it's players like Nani who often make the difference for the top teams imo. You only have to look at the stats from last season on their pure productivity, they both played almost exactly the same amount and Nani edged attacking output and goals, yet that was Valencia's best season for us and an iffy one for Nani according to some. The season before that Nani set a new record for assists in the league with 18 I think.
 
So is this the Twitter thread or Nani thread?
 
Ramshock said:
You have to admit you do stick up for Nani every chance you get Hectic. I do the same with Hernandez. We all have our favourites.
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I admit that I argue his worth when it's questioned, which is often on here, and I do the same over a number of players. As I said before, there is not another player with such ability, who is rated so poorly by their fans. He's also not my favourite.
 
Hectic said:
I admit that I argue his worth when it's questioned, which is often on here, and I do the same over a number of players. As I said before, there is not another player with such ability, who is rated so poorly by their fans. He's also not my favourite.
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Who is your favourite united player?
 
Sorry to go off topic but :

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No news on van der Vaart for those who ask. Personal terms agreed, according to "Bild and "Welt", but Spurs reportedly want more than €18m.
 
lysglimt said:
The difference between Nani and Valencia - is that when Valencia has a poor game, he still contributes. When Nani has a poor game - he is terrible
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But when Nani has a good game, he is unstoppable.

I really hope he signs an extension, he has the ability to make something out of nothing.
 
amolbhatia100 said:
That's a myth. When Valencia has a poor game he just works hard.He's had loads of terrible games where he's done nothing useful, like all of our players have.
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Well in that case that's not even a myth seeing as you're probably the only person in the entire universe who thinks so.
 
lysglimt said:
The difference between Nani and Valencia - is that when Valencia has a poor game, he still contributes. When Nani has a poor game - he is terrible
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and Valencia has one foot, he is also one dimension, he is also predictable.

All of the above is rubbish.
 
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