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I'm sure everyone associated with QPR will be heart-broken to read that...
Is Bartons ban worldwide or just in the PL? In other words if he completes a move to marseille will he be available for selection straight away?
Joseph Barton@Joey7Barton
Good night people. I've said enough for today. I'll get in trouble. No doubt. But this is how it is. This is life!
RarryHedknapp@RarryHedknapp
@Joey7Barton You do realise this is all because you're a horrible little cnut don't you Joe?
Good night people. I've said enough for today. I'll get in trouble. No doubt. But this is how it is. This is life!
RarryHedknapp@RarryHedknapp
@Joey7Barton You do realise this is all because you're a horrible little cnut don't you Joe?
I'm calling shenanigans unless that is Redknapps PA ghost writing for him.
I think these bans usually follow you.
Didn't Suarez still have some games left on his ban in Dutch football? I don't think Barton's ban would translate to France, but if he returned to England then it'll probably still be outstanding for him to serve.
Not sure if serious but thats obviously not Harry... His twitter name is rarry hedknapp
Miguel Delaney reckons Fergie wants rid of Nani. Because he's a pretty solid guy and does genuinely seem to have a source at United - a few people who know of him reckon it's Fergue himself as he has interviewed one-on-one a number of times and they are apparently quite pally when he's over in Ireland with the press - I wouldn't dismiss it out of hand. Obviously I hope it's either all bullshit or that the situation can be retrieved.
Moose from Talksport reckons Clint Dempsey might be havin a medical at Sunderland
Miguel is a bit late with the news. We've been discussing this in the mod forum. You're always welcome back Brophs.
Mikael Silvestre @IamMSilvestre
France sent you King Eric please keep Joe the sociopat in England ! #Marseille pic.twitter.com/SrzrlLhW
I love tweety on twitter. Not what a professional footballer should say but funny nonetheless.Nah, I've got new mates now. Better mates. Most of them called Miguel.
But if one of you lot has some news, by all means drop me a PM so that I can pass it one to one of the Miguels so he can pass it off as his own.
I wouldn't be surprised if your new shiny mate Miguel is one of the Mods. It mirrors what we've discussed in the mod forum.
I'm Miguel and my wife s Miguel too!
It's hardly surprising or new news there's something going on with Nani. United have made it pretty obvious with their targets they've been trying to find an alternative to Nani all summer. Although a great player, there is just not enough return on that talent. He has some great games mixed with some very mediocre displays.
Ridiculous step down.
Except hours later in Twitter time, which is years in actual time.
I don't see it. Rooney is the same player, capable of the amazing, often not what we see though, but the point is he has an end return that is reliable. Nani in the last two seasons has also provided a consistent return.
It can't be because we are suddenly concerned about his lack of return, it's there to see.
The point is he is so much better. If he grew a brain, applied himself more and put in the same effort and application he is not many miles behind Ronaldo in pure talent.
I would be very surprised if he was let go now. We definitely will be short staffed in the wide role in case of injuries. And we could do with his not consistently regular quality than not at all.
Looks more like a dressing down to me so far.
Yeah, I don't know why Nani gets held to this higher standard. His productivity was still good last year and that was whilst having an iffy second half of the season and in comparison with our other two wingers he was more effective. This site has a good comparision between Nani and Valencia last year, http://www.eplindex.com/17188/real-number-7-step-nani-vs-valencia.html.
And that's with last year being held as Valencia's best for united and an average year for Nani. I think the issue is that it's more noticeable when something doesn't come off for Nani. He takes more risks and so when he tries something flash and it doesn't come off people get annoyed. Valencia is a much safer player, he'll either put in a cross or pass it back. That's not knocking him in works well but it's not got the same risk as Nani's game and so not the same reward.
2 seasons ago Nani set a new record for assists in the league as well. He really should be more appreciated for the talent he is, is one of those players who can turn a match in a second.
I find it quite unbelievable how some people are so open to selling Nani. Valencia and Young are pretty traditional wingers whereas Nani offers us something totally different with his skill and ability to beat a man with pace and tricks. Selling him would be a major blow imo. Young is not even half the player Nani is on either wing.
So Young who is far more inconsistent get games ahead of him? Something more than that I think. If Nani is let go, I'll lose a bit of faith in the management. Terrible thing to say, but I don't know how our most creative player in the last couple of seasons is judged not good enough. Rooney has been worse than Nani. But he's the golden boy. Shame really.
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And so given that, plus the fact we know he has progressed - as in the last two season he has created or scored 60 goals - the best bet is to sell him, leaving us with just Valencia and Young, both of whom have suffered numerous injuries in recent seasons?
IF we sell Nani we will go 433 I reckon with Roo-Rvp up top with Kagawa behind
I'm not sure anyone is open to him being sold. We're just looking for reasons why SAF might be looking to offload. That is if any of the speculation has any substance.
We all acknowledge that Wayne is inconsistent, but overlook that because his end return has been magnificent. He's worth playing, and certainly worth keeping because we know he will score or provide goals. Why is it that this doesn't seem to apply at all to our wingers, or well Nani and Young. You take Nani's statistics into account for a winger, and his productivity is clearly something we can not afford to lose.
@GB Quite a drastic change. Unlikely i reckon.
I'm not suggesting he should be sold. I love wing play, and Nani is our best winger in terms of pure talent.
Dont sell my nan, my lovely nan. I just don't think he'd understand. And If you sell my nan, my love-ly nan, theres gonna be a riot on your hands.
He had better stay, he still can do so much and even if the performances get to his head it can't be such a problem if we have been dealing with it for years. I don't think we would sell him at this stage of the summer but it sounds like he doesn't want to leave so we shouldn't push him out the door.
He had better stay, he still can do so much and even if the performances get to his head it can't be such a problem if we have been dealing with it for years. I don't think we would sell him at this stage of the summer but it sounds like he doesn't want to leave so we shouldn't push him out the door.
What I'm saying though is it can't make sense for the reasons you speculated with above, because they don't add up.
Yeah, this is the only reason we should be worried by any of this shit. Kagawas aquisition and obvious ability leaves Fergie with a bit of a dilemma about our playing style. A future without our traditional reliance on wingers is a possibility. Not that Nani isn't capable of playing in a front 3, but still. I think we'd be mad to let him go but I'm curious to see how we'll get the best out of Shinji.
Well IF he is for sale then it suggests - as does the Berbatov situation - that Fergie doesn't see statistics as the only means by which to measure a player's contribution.
Yeah but if we were going to a front 3 then Nani is easily the most suited out of all our attackers, Rooney and RVP included, to play either side of the striker. It's arguably his best position and where he excelled in the Euro's.
Bingo.
It could for other reasons, like attitude or if he wants to go elsewhere, which for me would be more likely than us thinking he's not good enough.
Exactly, of our wingers he is far and away the most suited to playing as a wide forward in 4-3-3, selling him would only take us further away from excelling in that formation in Europe.
If theres truth to this then it rests soley on the players shoulders. Nani is close with Ronaldo and knows how much hard work it takes to be a world class player. I just never get the impression he works at his game, FK taking for example is something he should keep working on.
I don't think threre's anything in it. It would be pointless selling Nani this summer certainly. I think the contract situation, and that 'story' about us wanting to sell Anderson and Nani has gone to some peoples head. We dropped Nani and Rooney, because both were useless at Everton. Nani's selections up to his performances in training. I think though from a Journo's angle, they'll be thinking maybe get rid of Nani and you can have Rooney or welbeck on one of the wings making it easier for Sir Alex. If we didn't sell him this summer, I doubt we've designs to sell him next, with only a year left...
You have to admit you do stick up for Nani every chance you get Hectic. I do the same with Hernandez. We all have our favourites.
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