Trump/Russia/SDNY investigation

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BREAKING: Steve Bannon is likely to meet with Special Counsel Mueller next week, source familiar with the process tells @NBCNews
 
Raoul said:
I generally ignore Dworkin and Abramson. In fact, most of the anti-Trump accounts are starting to get a bit tedious. Prefer mainstream news sources.
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They're all using this Russia investigation to make a name for themselves and for personal gain.

Schindler is the latest one to have shown his true colours. He is now asking people to give $10 a month to get access to his private social media account.
 
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Fergies Gum said:
They're all using this Russia investigation to make a name for themselves and for personal gain.

Schindler is the latest one to have shown his true colours. He is now asking people to give $10 a month to get access to his private social media account.
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Yeah I re-followed Schindler about a month ago until I saw that he was spamming his users offering memberships, at which point I immediately unfollowed him.
 
Looks like the Republicans are going to need another distraction.

They'll need to issue a "but Hillary" in the meantime.
 
Uh wow, quite a read
https://theintercept.com/2018/02/09/donald-trump-russia-election-nsa/

Over the past year, American intelligence officials have opened a secret communications channel with the Russian operatives, who have been seeking to sell both Trump-related materials and documents stolen from the National Security Agency and obtained by Russian intelligence, according to people involved with the matter and other documentary evidence. The channel started developing in early 2017, when American and Russian intermediaries began meeting in Germany. Eventually, a Russian intermediary, apparently representing some elements of the Russian intelligence community, agreed to a deal to sell stolen NSA documents back to the U.S. while also seeking to include Trump-related materials in the package.
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Javi said:
I struggle to understand this. They want to buy as much 'stolen' (more like copied, surely the NSA does back ups all the time) info back as possible in order to know what the Russians know? And why would the Russian want to sell anyway?
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I don't think it's to "know" it as much as it was to recover stolen documents. Whether that means there's no copies etc, guess you can't say for sure but would have to try regardless. And then while trying to recover those stolen docs, they were seemingly offered Trump-Russia related materials.
 
shabadu84 said:
I don't think it's to "know" it as much as it was to recover stolen documents. Whether that means there's no copies etc, guess you can't say for sure but would have to try regardless. And then while trying to recover those stolen docs, they were seemingly offered Trump-Russia related materials.
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What do you mean they don't back up their stuff? How is that possible? No archive, nothing? I understand the second part with Trump info, still struggling with the first though.
 
shabadu84 said:
I don't think it's to "know" it as much as it was to recover stolen documents. Whether that means there's no copies etc, guess you can't say for sure but would have to try regardless. And then while trying to recover those stolen docs, they were seemingly offered Trump-Russia related materials.
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Javi said:
What do you mean they don't back up their stuff? How is that possible? No archive, nothing? I understand the second part with Trump info, still struggling with the first though.
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It’s got nothing to do with recovering lost documents.

Firstly, they want to know what intelligence was stolen so they can plan accordingly.

Secondly, they want to know which of their hacking kits have been shopped around.

Thirdly, by knowing what intelligence was stolen, they can figure out where it was stolen from and back trace it to figure out how it was stolen and see if there’s any fingerprints that might give clues to who stole it.

They can also figure out what the security flaw was, if there’s any code still active there and figure out how to protect other data in the future from similar exploits.
 
Pexbo said:
It’s got nothing to do with recovering lost documents.

Firstly, they want to know what intelligence was stolen so they can plan accordingly.

Secondly, they want to know which of their hacking kits have been shopped around.

Thirdly, by knowing what intelligence was stolen, they can figure out where it was stolen from and back trace it to figure out how it was stolen and see if there’s any fingerprints that might give clues to who stole it.

They can also figure out what the security flaw was, if there’s any code still active there and figure out how to protect other data in the future from similar exploits.
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That makes sense. But what is the russian angle in this, do they need the money or what?
 
Javi said:
That makes sense. But what is the russian angle in this, do they need the money or what?
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Russia just like causing chaos.

The investigation and massive press coverage has made them far more of a threat in people's eyes and ears than they're actually capable of.

Whilst they've got Trump's balls in a vice they might as well whack them with a hammer from time to time.
 
Maddow going into the significance of Rachel Brands resignation...

 
Javi said:
That makes sense. But what is the russian angle in this, do they need the money or what?
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The article says it’s unclear whether its dissident sections of Russian intelligence acting on their own behalf, or just a misinformation campaign by the Russian government. The inclusion of un-asked for stuff about Trump strengthens the case that it might be misinformation, although it doesn’t prove it.
 
Simbo said:
Maddow going into the significance of Rachel Brands resignation...

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I find her so difficult to watch. She labours every point and just winds me up like crazy. I know she’s trying to explain complex matters to a public audience, but urg..
 
Maddow is a terrible journalist. Just absolutely awful. Such a long-winded, liberal blow-hard who's in love with the sound of her own voice. Her opening monologues are only just slightly less painful than having all your fingernails ripped out individually. Besides everything else she jumped the shark for sure when she hyped up that 'I've got Trump's tax returns' nothing burger. Her reputation isn't recovering from that.
 
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