Based on what?
Trump/Russia/SDNY investigation
- Thread starter Raoul
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The difference between Trump and Clinton being president was 80k. The Russian trolls and bots specifically targeted states in which the margin was fine and ran a huge smear campaign on Clinton. On top of that, Wikileaks coordinated suggestive tweets about Hillary's emails at key moments in the campaign and Trump was already on top of the news knowing exactly what to say to bring it to public attention.
The reason Israel's lobbying isn't the issue you would like it to be is because rather than being the US's biggest adversary on the world stage, they are a US ally and for the most part, their agendas have aligned with the US.
Here's a stack of circumstantial evidence for you to ignore:
2.1. Relationship with Russia
2.1.1. General
- 2008 – Donald Trump JR "Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia" Source
- 11/11/2013 – "I had a great weekend with you and your family. You have done a FANTASTIC job. TRUMP TOWER-MOSCOW is next. EMIN was WOW!" Source
- 11/12/2013 - "I have plans to start business in Russia," Trump said, "I am currently in talks with several Russian companies to build a skyscraper on the model of Trump Tower in New York." The businessman did not name his partners or the size of the investment." Source
- 11/20/2013 – Trump appears in a music video by the son of Aras Agalarov. Source
- 2014-2015 - Starting in 2014, Trump oddly Tweeted Nine Times to Deleted Russian Twitter Accounts About Running for President. Source
- 11/23/2014 - "@russiannavyblog: @dr_rita39 I follow Mr. Trump in a crusade to get him to restore Western Civilization with a Trump/Palin '16 ticket!"Source
- 12/20/2014 - "@VladimirRussia7: "@realDonaldTrump :Be sure to set exceptional goals for your 2015 resolutions. Push yourself, you can do it. Think Big!"" Source
- 12/24/2014 - "@VladimirRussia7: @realDonaldTrump Merry Christmas,my favorite billionaire!" Thanks! Source
- 12/27/2014 - @VladimirRussia7: @realDonaldTrump and \@mcuban and \@WarrenBuffett are my favorite billionaires and heroes." Source
- 1/17/2015 -"@VladimirRussia7: @realDonaldTrump Oh,How I respect you- a billionaire,a family man,and a TV Star!" Thanks. Source
- 1/30/2015 -"@VladimirRussia7 You are the best #billionare and the great teacher!I love your inspiring books!" Thanks and good luck. Source
- 1/30/2015 - "@russiannavyblog: @realDonaldTrump An announcement Mr Trump will run for President and fix the Obama-ruined nation?" Source
- 3/11/2015 - "@russiannavyblog: @Joe3957 If there is anything America desperately needs, it's a Trump run!"Source
- 3/11/2015 - \@monkiekaty: @realDonaldTrump Yes! Yes! Yes! Trump for President Source
- 07/27/2016 – "What do I have to do with Russia? You know the closest I came to Russia, I bought a house a number of years ago in Palm Beach, Florida... for \$40 million and I sold it to a Russian for \$100 million including brokerage commissions." Source
- 07/27/2016 - Trump asks Russia to hack Hillary publicly. Source
- 08/06/2016 - Trump campaign specifically pushes pro-Putin move to Republican platform (Under Manafort) Source
- 9/9/2016 - Donald Trump gave an interview Thursday that aired on a television station funded by the Kremlin, arguing that the Russian government was "probably" not meddling in the American presidential race. Source
- 9/9/2016 - In May 2014, the CNI hosted a roundtable discussion at which the director of the Kremlin-backed Institute for Democracy and Cooperation strongly defended Russia’s position in Ukraine. In April, Trump chose the CNI as the venue for his first major foreign policy speech, and the audience included Russian Ambassador to the U.S. Sergey Kislyak. Source
- 9/14/2016 - How did an alleged and notorious Russian mobster connected to an illegal international gambling ring run out of Trump Tower end up as a special guest at a Donald Trump event in Moscow in 2013? Source
- 9/22/2016 - Sergei Millian claims he helped market Trump Condos in Russia. Source
- 10/09/2016 - Trump brought Ms. Universe Pageant to Russia. Was paid for by Aras Agalarov, a man allegedly close ties to Putin. Source
- 12/19/2016 - Trump has ties to a top Ukranian/Russian organized crime boss Semion Mogilevich. [Source](thehill.com/homenews/administration/332671-dem-senator-sessions-recommendation-to-fire-comey-a-complete-betrayal)
- 01/16/2017 – NYT report looking at Trump trying to get real-estate deals in Russia over 3 decades. Source
- 2/14/2017 – Abe says Trump encouraged him to boost ties, dialogue with Putin to resolve territorial issue. Source
- 3/5/2017 - Trump Reverses Pledge To Mandate U.S. Steel For Keystone Pipeline. A Direct Beneficiary Is A Russian Oligarch With Close Ties To Vladimir PutinSource
- 3/7/2017 - "Trump personally met with the Russian ambassador on April 27, 2016, prior to a major foreign policy speech. The Wall Street Journal, in a report that was little-noticed at the time" Trump used the speech to call for warmer relations with Russia. Source
- 3/7/2017 - U.S. government sanctioned Dmitry Rogozin—a hardline deputy to Vladimir Putin, the head of Russia’s defense industry and longtime opponent of American power—in retaliation for the invasion of Crimea and eastern Ukraine. Source
- 3/23/2017 - RNC paid intel firm with ties to Russians to find dirt on Clinton. Source
- 3/28/2017 - Trump adds Russia scholar as a National Security Council director Source
- 3/29/2017 - Trump silent amid protests in Russia. Source
- 4/2/2017 - The White House abruptly canceled a scheduled meeting in February between President Trump and a high-level Russian central banker after a national security aide discovered the official had been named by Spanish police as a suspected “godfather” of an organized crime and money-laundering ring.Source
- 4/23/2017 - Trump dodges Wikileaks question in an interview, re-blamed DNC for getting hacked, and said CrowdStrike was Ukraine-based. Source
- 4/26/2017 - Federal investigators continue to dig into Russia's cyberattack on the US election and the Trump administration's possible involvement—but as bad as that intrusion and collusion may be, Trump's opaque financial dealings could prove even more perilous for the president. Source
- 5/12/2017 - Lawyers for President Donald Trump said Friday that a review of his last 10 years of tax returns did not reflect “any income of any type from Russian sources,” but their letter included exceptions related to previously cited income generated from a beauty pageant and sale of a Florida estate. Source
- 5/12/2017 - The law firm representing Trump also won Russia's "law firm of the year" and had previously represented Rosneft. Source
- 5/17/2017 - VEB, a Russian state-run bank under scrutiny by U.S. investigators, financed a deal involving Donald Trump’s onetime partner in a Toronto hotel tower at a key moment for the project. Source
- 5/18/2017 -Michael Flynn and other advisers to Donald Trump’s campaign were in contact with Russian officials and others with Kremlin ties in at least 18 calls and emails during the last seven months of the 2016 presidential race. Source
- 5/19/2017 - Sources tell CBS News a relationship between Russia and the Trump campaign developed long before the election. The U.S. intelligence community became especially concerned that sensitive information being provided to the transition team could be passed on to the Russians. Source
- 5/19/2017 - Trump Told Russians That Firing ‘Nut Job’ Comey Eased Pressure From Investigation. Source
- 5/26/2017 - Once U.S. President Donald Trump returns from his overseas trip, the White House plans to launch its most aggressive effort yet to push back against allegations involving Russia and his presidential campaign, tackling head-on a scandal that has threatened to consume his young presidency. Source
- 5/26/2017 - The White House will not move to reduce U.S. sanctions on Russia and may even pursue further action against Moscow, top White House adviser Gary Cohn told reporters on Friday, clarifying previous remarks. Cohn had said earlier in the week that Trump was “looking at” the issue of Russia sanctions and that the White House did not yet have a position. Source
- 5/31/2017 - President Trump's administration will cease answering questions from reporters about the investigation into the Trump campaign's alleged ties to Russia, White House press secretary Sean Spicer said Wednesday. Source
- 5/31/2017 - The Trump administration is moving toward handing back to Russia two diplomatic compounds, near New York City and on Maryland’s Eastern Shore, that its officials were ejected from in late December as punishment for Moscow’s interference in the 2016 presidential election. Source]
- 6/1/2017 - The Trump White House is setting up a dedicated unit to cope with a Russia investigation that is picking up in intensity, in an attempt to keep the probe from derailing policy priorities that face an uncertain fate on Capitol Hill. Source
- 6/1/2017 - In the early weeks of the Trump administration, former Obama administration officials and State Department staffers fought an intense, behind-the-scenes battle to head off efforts by incoming officials to normalize relations with Russia, according to multiple sources familiar with the events.Unknown to the public at the time, top Trump administration officials, almost as soon as they took office, tasked State Department staffers with developing proposals for the lifting of economic sanctions, the return of diplomatic compounds and other steps to relieve tensions with Moscow. Source
- 6/1/2017 - Confirming the yahoo report, Daniel Fried, who served as a senior diplomat until he retired in late February, said he became aware of the sanctions effort in the early weeks of Trump's presidency. He said State Department colleagues approached him, "concerned that the Trump administration, the incoming team was going to unilaterally rescind the sanctions on Russia, which had been placed there because of Russia's aggression on Ukraine. And it was further said by these people that there would be no action required from Russia." Source
- 7/18/2017 - Hours into a long dinner with world leaders who had gathered for the Group of 20 summit meeting, President Trump left his chair at the sprawling banquet table and headed to where President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia was seated. The July 7 meeting in Hamburg, Germany, was the single most scrutinized of the Trump presidency. But it turned out there was another, potentially just as important, encounter: a roughly hourlong one-on-one discussion over dinner that was only overheard by a Kremlin-provided interpreter. This had not been disclosed previously by the WH. Source
- 06/17/2016 - "Almost all of the oligarchs were in the room," Trump bragged to Real Estate Weekly upon returning home.” Source
- 09/10/2016 - Trump claims to have gotten a gift from Putin. ""You know, I was in Moscow a couple of months ago. I own the Miss Universe Pageant and they treated me so great. Putin even sent me a present, a beautiful present." Source
- 10/20/2016 - Trump claims he met Putin. "Yes, a long time ago," Trump said. "[Putin and I] got along great, by the way."" Source
- 1/11/2017 - Trump claims he has a relationship with Putin. "I do have a relationship and I can tell you he's very interested in what we're doing here today he's probably very interested in what you and I are saying today and I'm sure he's going to be seeing it in some form and I do have a relationship with him and I think its very interesting to see what's happened." "He's done a very brilliant job in terms of what he represents and who he is representing. "Source
- 9/1/2016 - Trump denies having a relationship with Putin. Source
- 10/20/2016 - "I don’t know Putin. He has said nice things about me" Source
- 12/12/2016 – Can you imagine if the election results were the opposite and WE tried to play the Russia/CIA card? It would be called conspiracy theory!"Source
- 1/11/2017 – "Russia has never tried to use leverage over me. I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA - NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!" - Source
- 2/7/2017 - "I don't know Putin, have no deals in Russia, and the haters are going crazy - yet Obama can make a deal with Iran, #1 in terror, no problem!Source
- 2/16/2017 – In press conference following Flynn resignation Trump yet again denies links to Russia. Source
- 2/20/2017 - "I have nothing to do with Russia," he told reporters. “To the best of my knowledge, *no person that I deal with does. Source
- 2/26/2017 – "Russia talk is FAKE NEWS put out by the Dems, and played up by the media, in order to mask the big election defeat and the illegal leaks!"Source
- 2/27/2017 - Trump says "I haven’t called Russia in 10 years" Source
- 3/20/2017 - "James Clapper and others stated that there is no evidence Potus colluded with Russia. This story is FAKE NEWS and everyone knows it!" Source
- 3/20/2017 – "The Democrats made up and pushed the Russian story as an excuse for running a terrible campaign. Big advantage in Electoral College & lost!"Source
- 3/20/2017 – "The real story that Congress, the FBI and all others should be looking into is the leaking of classified information. Must find leaker now!" - Source
- 3/20/2017 - "What about all of the contact with the Clinton campaign and the Russians? Also, is it true that the DNC would not let the FBI in to look?" Source
- 3/23/2017 – "Just watched the totally biased and fake news reports of the so-called Russia story on NBC and ABC. Such dishonesty!" Source
- 3/27/2017 - "Why isn't the House Intelligence Committee looking into the Bill & Hillary deal that allowed big Uranium to go to Russia, Russian speech...."Source
- 3/27/2017 - "...money to Bill, the Hillary Russian "reset," praise of Russia by Hillary, or Podesta Russian Company. Trump Russia story is a hoax. #MAGA!"Source
- 3/28/2017 - "Watch \@foxandfriends now on Podesta and Russia!" Source
- 3/28/2017 - "Why doesn't Fake News talk about Podesta ties to Russia as covered by \@FoxNews or money from Russia to Clinton - sale of Uranium?" Source
- 4/1/2017 - "When will Sleepy Eyes Chuck Todd and \@NBCNews start talking about the Obama SURVEILLANCE SCANDAL and stop with the Fake Trump/Russia story?" Source
- 4/1/2017 - "It is the same Fake News Media that said there is "no path to victory for Trump" that is now pushing the phony Russia story. A total scam!" Source
- 4/3/2017 - Such amazing reporting on unmasking and the crooked scheme against us by \@foxandfriends. "Spied on before nomination." The real story.Source
- 4/3/2017 - Was the brother of John Podesta paid big money to get the sanctions on Russia lifted? Did Hillary know? Source
- 4/3/2017 - Did Hillary Clinton ever apologize for receiving the answers to the debate? Just asking!. Source
- 4/3/2017 - \@FoxNews from multiple sources: "There was electronic surveillance of Trump, and people close to Trump. This is unprecedented." \@FBI. Source
- 5/8/2017 - "Director Clapper reiterated what everybody, including the fake media already knows- there is "no evidence" of collusion w/ Russia and Trump. "Source
- 5/8/2017 - "The Russia-Trump collusion story is a total hoax, when will this taxpayer funded charade end?" Source
- 5/11/2017 - Trump denies any links to Russia: 'No loans, no nothing' Source
- 5/11/2017 -Russia must be laughing up their sleeves watching as the U.S. tears itself apart over a Democrat EXCUSE for losing the election.Source
- 5/12/2017 - "Again, the story that there was collusion between the Russians & Trump campaign was fabricated by Dems as an excuse for losing the election.Source
- 5/12/2017 -"When James Clapper himself, and virtually everyone else with knowledge of the witch hunt, says there is no collusion, when does it end?" Source
- 5/18/2017 - Trump : "This is the single greatest witch hunt of a politician in American history!" Source
- 5/18/2017 - Trump : "With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special counsel appointed!"Source
- 5/30/2017 - "Russian officials must be laughing at the U.S. & how a lame excuse for why the Dems lost the election has taken over the Fake News." Source
- 5/31/2017 - " So now it is reported that the Democrats, who have excoriated Carter Page about Russia, don't want him to testify. He blows away their....Source
- 5/31/2017 - ...case against him & now wants to clear his name by showing "the false or misleading testimony by James Comey, John Brennan..." Witch Hunt!Source
- 6/1/2017 - "The big story is the "unmasking and surveillance" of people that took place during the Obama Administration." Source
- 6/15/2017 - "They made up a phony collusion with the Russians story, found zero proof, so now they go for obstruction of justice on the phony story. Nice"Source
- 6/15/2017 - "You are witnessing the single greatest WITCH HUNT in American political history - led by some very bad and conflicted people! #MAGA" Source
- 6/15/2017 - "Why is that Hillary Clintons family and Dems dealings with Russia are not looked at, but my non-dealings are?" Source
- 6/15/2017 - "Crooked H destroyed phones w/ hammer, 'bleached' emails, & had husband meet w/AG days before she was cleared- & they talk about obstruction?" [Source](Crooked%20H%20destroyed%20phones%20w/%20hammer,%20'bleached'%20emails,%20&%20had%20husband%20meet%20w/AG%20days%20before%20she%20was%20cleared-%20&%20they%20talk%20about%20obstruction?)
- 6/16/2017 - "After 7 months of investigations & committee hearings about my "collusion with the Russians," nobody has been able to show any proof. Sad!"Source
- 6/16/2017 - "Despite the phony Witch Hunt going on in America, the economic & jobs numbers are great. Regulations way down, jobs and enthusiasm way up!"Source
- 6/16/2017 - "I am being investigated for firing the FBI Director by the man who told me to fire the FBI Director! Witch Hunt" Source
- 6/22/2017 - "Former Homeland Security Advisor Jeh Johnson is latest top intelligence official to state there was no grand scheme between Trump & Russia."Source
- 6/22/2017 - "By the way, if Russia was working so hard on the 2016 Election, it all took place during the Obama Admin. Why didn't they stop them?" Source
- 6/22/2017 - "...Why did Democratic National Committee turn down the DHS offer to protect against hacks (long prior to election). It's all a big Dem HOAX!" Source
- 6/22/2017 - "...Why did the DNC REFUSE to turn over its Server to the FBI, and still hasn't? It's all a big Dem scam and excuse for losing the election!"Source
- 6/23/2017 - "Just out: The Obama Administration knew far in advance of November 8th about election meddling by Russia. Did nothing about it. WHY?" Source
- 6/24/2017 - "Since the Obama Administration was told way before the 2016 Election that the Russians were meddling, why no action? Focus on them, not T!" Source
- 6/24/2017 - "Obama Administration official said they "choked" when it came to acting on Russian meddling of election. They didn't want to hurt Hillary?"Source
- 6/25/2017 - "Hillary Clinton colluded with the Democratic Party in order to beat Crazy Bernie Sanders. Is she allowed to so collude? Unfair to Bernie!" Source
- 6/26/2017 - "The reason that President Obama did NOTHING about Russia after being notified by the CIA of meddling is that he expected Clinton would win.."Source
- 6/26/2017 - "...and did not want to "rock the boat." He didn't "choke," he colluded or obstructed, and it did the Dems and Crooked Hillary no good."Source
- 6/26/2017 - "The real story is that President Obama did NOTHING after being informed in August about Russian meddling. With 4 months looking at Russia..."Source
- 6/26/2017 - "..under a magnifying glass, they have zero "tapes" of T people colluding. There is no collusion & no obstruction. I should be given apology!"Source
- 6/26/2017 - "From \@FoxNews "Bombshell: In 2016, Obama dismissed idea that anyone could rig an American election." Check out his statement - Witch Hunt!" Source
- 7/12/2017 - "My son Donald did a good job last night. He was open, transparent and innocent. This is the greatest Witch Hunt in political history. Sad!" Source
- 7/12/2017 - ".\@WashTimes states "Democrats have willfully used Moscow disinformation to influence the presidential election against Donald Trump." Source
- 7/12/2017 - "Why aren't the same standards placed on the Democrats. Look what Hillary Clinton may have gotten away with. Disgraceful!" Source
- 7/15/2017 - "Stock Market hit another all-time high yesterday - despite the Russian hoax story! Also, jobs numbers are starting to look very good!" Source
- 7/16/2017 - "Thank you to former campaign adviser Michael Caputo for saying so powerfully that there was no Russian collusion in our winning campaign."Source
- 7/18/2017 – “Fake News story of secret dinner with Putin is "sick." All G 20 leaders, and spouses, were invited by the Chancellor of Germany. Press knew!”Source
- 7/18/2017 – “The Fake News is becoming more and more dishonest! Even a dinner arranged for top 20 leaders in Germany is made to look sinister!”Source
- 7/22/2017 – “So many people are asking why isn't the A.G. or Special Council looking at the many Hillary Clinton or Comey crimes. 33,000 e-mails deleted?” Source
- 7/22/2017 – “...What about all of the Clinton ties to Russia, including Podesta Company, Uranium deal, Russian Reset, big dollar speeches etc.” Source
- 7/22/2017 – “My son Donald openly gave his e-mails to the media & authorities whereas Crooked Hillary Clinton deleted (& acid washed) her 33,000 e-mails!” Source
- 7/23/2017 – “As the phony Russian Witch Hunt continues, two groups are laughing at this excuse for a lost election taking hold, Democrats and Russians!” Source
- 7/24/2017 – “After 1 year of investigation with Zero evidence being found, Chuck Schumer just stated that "Democrats should blame ourselves,not Russia." Source
- 7/24/2017 – “So why aren't the Committees and investigators, and of course our beleaguered A.G., looking into Crooked Hillarys crimes & Russia relations?” Source
- 7/24/2017 – “Sleazy Adam Schiff, the totally biased Congressman looking into "Russia," spends all of his time on television pushing the Dem loss excuse!” Source
- 7/25/2017 –“ Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump campaign - "quietly working to boost Clinton." So where is the investigation A.G. \@seanhannity” Source
- 7/25/2017 – “Attorney General Jeff Sessions has taken a VERY weak position on Hillary Clinton crimes (where are E-mails & DNC server) & Intel leakers!” Source
- 7/25/2017 – “Problem is that the acting head of the FBI & the person in charge of the Hillary investigation, Andrew McCabe, got \$700,000 from H for wife!” Source
- 7/25/2017 – “Jared Kushner did very well yesterday in proving he did not collude with the Russians. Witch Hunt. Next up, 11 year old Barron Trump!” Source
- 7/26/2017 – “Why didn't A.G. Sessions replace Acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe, a Comey friend who was in charge of Clinton investigation but got....” Source
- 7/26/2017 – “...big dollars (\$700,000) for his wife's political run from Hillary Clinton and her representatives. Drain the Swamp!” Source
- 7/27/2017 – “"One of the things that has been lost in the politics of this situation is that the Russians collected and spread negative information.....” Source
- 7/27/2017 - “...about then candidate Trump." Catherine Herridge \@FoxNews. So why doesn't Fake News report this? Witch Hunt! Purposely phony reporting.” Source
- 7/29/2017 – “In other words, Russia was against Trump in the 2016 Election - and why not, I want strong military & low oil prices. Witch Hunt!” Source
- 10/2007 - ""Look at Putin -- what he's doing with Russia -- I mean, you know, what's going on over there. I mean this guy has done -- whether you like him or don't like him -- he's doing a great job in rebuilding the image of Russia and also rebuilding Russia period" Source
- 6/18/2013 - "Do you think Putin will be going to The Miss Universe Pageant in November in Moscow - if so, will he become my new best friend?" - Source
- 9/6/2013 – "I am not angry at Russia (or China) because their leaders are far smarter than ours. We need real leadership, and fast, before it is too late" Source
- 3/21/2014 – "I believe Putin will continue to re-build the Russian Empire. He has zero respect for Obama or the U.S.!" - Source
- 3/21/2014 - "Putin has become a big hero in Russia with an all time high popularity. Obama, on the other hand, has fallen to his lowest ever numbers. SAD" - Source
- 3/27/2014 – "So what I would do—as an example, I own Miss Universe, I was in Russia, I was in Moscow recently and I spoke, indirectly and directly, with President Putin, who could not have been nicer, and we had a tremendous success."Source
- 4/17/2014 – "America is at a great disadvantage. Putin is ex-KGB, Obama is a community organizer. Unfair." Source
- 6/31/2015 – "I think I would just get along very well with Vladimir Putin. I just think so. People say what do you mean? I just think we would. Obama and him, he hates Obama. Obama hates him. We have unbelievably bad relationships." Source
- 12/18/2015 – "I’ve always felt fine about Putin. I think that he’s a strong leader" Source
- 12/20/2015 - "If Putin respects me and if Putin wants to call me brilliant and other things that he said that were frankly very nice, I'll accept that, and I'll accept it on behalf of our country," Source
- 9/10/2016 - "If he says great things about me, I'm going to say great things about him," the Republican nominee said. “I’ve already said he is very much of a leader. The man has very strong control over his country" Source
- 12/18/2015 - Trump defends Putin in interview with Joe Scarborough. "He's running his country and at least he's a leader, unlike what we have in this country," Trump said on MSNBC's "Morning Joe." "I think our country does plenty of killing also." Source
- 12/20/2015 - Trump says he’s never seen proof of Putin killing Journalists on ABC. Source
- 10/4/2016 – "“He’s not going into Ukraine," Trump said. “He’s not going to go into Ukraine. You can mark it down. You can put it down. You can take it anywhere you want.” “He’s already there isn’t he?” Stephanopoulos said. “Well, he’s there in a certain way,” Source
- 02/4/2017 - Trump recently defended Putin from being called a killer. Source
- 3/5/2017 - "Who was it that secretly said to Russian President, "Tell Vladimir that after the election I'll have more flexibility?" \@foxandfriends" Source
- 3/7/2017 - "For eight years Russia "ran over" President Obama, got stronger and stronger, picked-off Crimea and added missiles. Weak! “ Source
- 7/9/2017 - "I strongly pressed President Putin twice about Russian meddling in our election. He vehemently denied it. I've already given my opinion....." Source
- 7/9/2017 - "...We negotiated a ceasefire in parts of Syria which will save lives. Now it is time to move forward in working constructively with Russia!" Source
- 7/9/2017 - "Putin & I discussed forming an impenetrable Cyber Security unit so that election hacking, & many other negative things, will be guarded.." Source
- 7/9/2017 - "...and safe. Questions were asked about why the CIA & FBI had to ask the DNC 13 times for their SERVER, and were rejected, still don't...." Source
- 7/9/2017 - "...have it. Fake News said 17 intel agencies when actually 4 (had to apologize). Why did Obama do NOTHING when he had info before election?" Source
- 7/9/2017 - "Sanctions were not discussed at my meeting with President Putin. Nothing will be done until the Ukrainian & Syrian problems are solved!" Source
- 7/9/2017 - "Syrian ceasefire seems to be holding. Many lives can be saved. Came out of meeting. Good!" Source
- 7/9/2017 - "The fact that President Putin and I discussed a Cyber Security unit doesn't mean I think it can happen. It can't-but a ceasefire can,& did!" Source
2.1.7 Scandal of leaking Intel to Russia
- 5/10/2017 - Trump hosts meeting with Lavrov at Request of Putin Source
- 5/10/2017 -Lavrov sarcastically jokes about not knowing Comey was fired during the visit. Source
- 5/10/2017 - The WH only lets Russian media cover the meeting. Source
- 5/10/2017 - The WH lets Russian equipment into the Oval office, causing many to be concerned that bugs could be planed. Source
- 5/10/2017 - The WH fails to mention Trump had also met with Sergei Kislyak. Source
- 5/15/2017 - Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador. Source
- 5/15/2017 - Additional reporting saying the leak is far worse than had already been reported. Source
- 5/16/2017 - The classified intelligence that President Trump disclosed in a meeting last week with Russian officials at the White House was provided by Israel. Source
- 5/16/2017 - Lawmakers expressed shock and concern after learning that President Trump had revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador during a meeting in the Oval Office last week, according to current and former U.S. officials. Source
- 5/16/2017 - The officials said transition officials removed classified materials from secure rooms and carried them between buildings in Washington without permission. Worried about keeping tabs on the highly sensitive material, the Obama administration officials set new limits on some classified information and explicitly barred Trump aides from viewing that material in their transition offices. Source
- 5/16/2017 - Trump defends his leaking on twitter in a series of tweets:
- As President I wanted to share with Russia (at an openly scheduled W.H. meeting) which I have the absolute right to do, facts pertaining.... Source
- ...to terrorism and airline flight safety. Humanitarian reasons, plus I want Russia to greatly step up their fight against ISIS & terrorism.Source
- I have been asking Director Comey & others, from the beginning of my administration, to find the LEAKERS in the intelligence community.....Source
- 5/17/2017 - Vladimir Putin said on Wednesday that U.S. President Donald Trump had not divulged any secrets during a meeting in Washington with Russian officials and offered to prove it by supplying Congress with a transcript. Source
- 5/22/2017 - "Just so you understand, I never mentioned the word or the name 'Israel','" Trump told reporters in Jerusalem. "Never mentioned it during that conversation. They were all saying I did. So you had another story wrong. Never mentioned the word 'Israel'." Source
- 2008 – Donald Trump JR "Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets. We see a lot of money pouring in from Russia" Source
- 11/11/2013 – "I had a great weekend with you and your family. You have done a FANTASTIC job. TRUMP TOWER-MOSCOW is next. EMIN was WOW!" Source
- 11/12/2013 - "I have plans to start business in Russia," Trump said, "I am currently in talks with several Russian companies to build a skyscraper on the model of Trump Tower in New York." The businessman did not name his partners or the size of the investment." Source
- 11/20/2013 – Trump appears in a music video by the son of Aras Agalarov. Source
- 2014-2015 - Starting in 2014, Trump oddly Tweeted Nine Times to Deleted Russian Twitter Accounts About Running for President. Source
- 11/23/2014 - "\@russiannavyblog: \@dr_rita39 I follow Mr. Trump in a crusade to get him to restore Western Civilization with a Trump/Palin '16 ticket!" Source
- /12/20/2014 - "\@VladimirRussia7: "\@realDonaldTrump :Be sure to set exceptional goals for your 2015 resolutions. Push yourself, you can do it. Think Big!"" Source
- 12/24/2014 - "\@VladimirRussia7: \@realDonaldTrump Merry Christmas,my favorite billionaire!" Thanks! Source
- 12/27/2014 - \@VladimirRussia7: \@realDonaldTrump and \@mcuban and \@WarrenBuffett are my favorite billionaires and heroes." Source
- 1/17/2015 -"\@VladimirRussia7: \@realDonaldTrump Oh,How I respect you- a billionaire,a family man,and a TV Star!" Thanks. Source
- 1/30/2015 -"\@VladimirRussia7 You are the best #billionare and the great teacher!I love your inspiring books!" Thanks and good luck. Source
- 1/30/2015 - "\@russiannavyblog: \@realDonaldTrump An announcement Mr Trump will run for President and fix the Obama-ruined nation?" Source
- 3/11/2015 - "\@russiannavyblog: \@Joe3957 If there is anything America desperately needs, it's a Trump run!"Source
- 3/11/2015 - "\@monkiekaty: \@realDonaldTrump Yes! Yes! Yes! Trump for President Source
- 07/27/2016 – "What do I have to do with Russia? You know the closest I came to Russia, I bought a house a number of years ago in Palm Beach, Florida... for \$40 million and I sold it to a Russian for \$100 million including brokerage commissions." Source
- 07/27/2016 - Trump asks Russia to hack Hillary publicly. Source
- 08/06/2016 - Trump campaign specifically pushes pro-Putin move to Republican platform (Under Manafort) Source
- 9/9/2016 - Donald Trump gave an interview Thursday that aired on a television station funded by the Kremlin, arguing that the Russian government was "probably" not meddling in the American presidential race. Source
- 9/9/2016 - In May 2014, the CNI hosted a roundtable discussion at which the director of the Kremlin-backed Institute for Democracy and Cooperation strongly defended Russia’s position in Ukraine. In April, Trump chose the CNI as the venue for his first major foreign policy speech, and the audience included Russian Ambassador to the U.S. Sergey Kislyak. Source
- 9/14/2016 - How did an alleged and notorious Russian mobster connected to an illegal international gambling ring run out of Trump Tower end up as a special guest at a Donald Trump event in Moscow in 2013?Source
- 9/22/2016 - Sergei Millian claims he helped market Trump Condos in Russia. Source
- 10/09/2016 - Trump brought Ms. Universe Pageant to Russia. Was paid for by Aras Agalarov, a man allegedly close ties to Putin. Source
- 12/19/2016 - Trump has ties to a top Ukranian/Russian organized crime boss Semion Mogilevich. [Source](thehill.com/homenews/administration/332671-dem-senator-sessions-recommendation-to-fire-comey-a-complete-betrayal)
- 01/16/2017 – NYT report looking at Trump trying to get real-estate deals in Russia over 3 decades. Source
- 2/14/2017 – Abe says Trump encouraged him to boost ties, dialogue with Putin to resolve territorial issue. Source
- 3/5/2017 - Trump Reverses Pledge To Mandate U.S. Steel For Keystone Pipeline. A Direct Beneficiary Is A Russian Oligarch With Close Ties To Vladimir Putin Source
- 3/7/2017 - "Trump personally met with the Russian ambassador on April 27, 2016, prior to a major foreign policy speech. The Wall Street Journal, in a report that was little-noticed at the time" Trump used the speech to call for warmer relations with Russia. Source
- 3/7/2017 - U.S. government sanctioned Dmitry Rogozin—a hardline deputy to Vladimir Putin, the head of Russia’s defense industry and longtime opponent of American power—in retaliation for the invasion of Crimea and eastern Ukraine. Source
- 3/23/2017 - RNC paid intel firm with ties to Russians to find dirt on Clinton. Source
- 3/28/2017 - Trump adds Russia scholar as a National Security Council director Source
- 3/29/2017 - Trump silent amid protests in Russia. Source
- 4/2/2017 - The White House abruptly canceled a scheduled meeting in February between President Trump and a high-level Russian central banker after a national security aide discovered the official had been named by Spanish police as a suspected “godfather” of an organized crime and money-laundering ring. Source
- 4/23/2017 - Trump dodges Wikileaks question in an interview, re-blamed DNC for getting hacked, and said CrowdStrike was Ukraine-based. Source
- 4/26/2017 - Federal investigators continue to dig into Russia's cyberattack on the US election and the Trump administration's possible involvement—but as bad as that intrusion and collusion may be, Trump's opaque financial dealings could prove even more perilous for the president. Source
- 5/12/2017 - Lawyers for President Donald Trump said Friday that a review of his last 10 years of tax returns did not reflect “any income of any type from Russian sources,” but their letter included exceptions related to previously cited income generated from a beauty pageant and sale of a Florida estate. Source
- 5/12/2017 - The law firm representing Trump also won Russia's "law firm of the year" and had previously represented Rosneft. Source
- 5/17/2017 - VEB, a Russian state-run bank under scrutiny by U.S. investigators, financed a deal involving Donald Trump’s onetime partner in a Toronto hotel tower at a key moment for the project. Source
- 5/18/2017 -Michael Flynn and other advisers to Donald Trump’s campaign were in contact with Russian officials and others with Kremlin ties in at least 18 calls and emails during the last seven months of the 2016 presidential race. Source
- 5/19/2017 - Sources tell CBS News a relationship between Russia and the Trump campaign developed long before the election. The U.S. intelligence community became especially concerned that sensitive information being provided to the transition team could be passed on to the Russians. Source
- 5/19/2017 - Trump Told Russians That Firing ‘Nut Job’ Comey Eased Pressure From Investigation. Source
- 5/26/2017 - Once U.S. President Donald Trump returns from his overseas trip, the White House plans to launch its most aggressive effort yet to push back against allegations involving Russia and his presidential campaign, tackling head-on a scandal that has threatened to consume his young presidency. Source
- 5/26/2017 - The White House will not move to reduce U.S. sanctions on Russia and may even pursue further action against Moscow, top White House adviser Gary Cohn told reporters on Friday, clarifying previous remarks. Cohn had said earlier in the week that Trump was “looking at” the issue of Russia sanctions and that the White House did not yet have a position. Source
- 5/31/2017 - President Trump's administration will cease answering questions from reporters about the investigation into the Trump campaign's alleged ties to Russia, White House press secretary Sean Spicer said Wednesday. Source
- 5/31/2017 - The Trump administration is moving toward handing back to Russia two diplomatic compounds, near New York City and on Maryland’s Eastern Shore, that its officials were ejected from in late December as punishment for Moscow’s interference in the 2016 presidential election. Source]
- 6/1/2017 - The Trump White House is setting up a dedicated unit to cope with a Russia investigation that is picking up in intensity, in an attempt to keep the probe from derailing policy priorities that face an uncertain fate on Capitol Hill. Source
- 6/1/2017 - In the early weeks of the Trump administration, former Obama administration officials and State Department staffers fought an intense, behind-the-scenes battle to head off efforts by incoming officials to normalize relations with Russia, according to multiple sources familiar with the events.Unknown to the public at the time, top Trump administration officials, almost as soon as they took office, tasked State Department staffers with developing proposals for the lifting of economic sanctions, the return of diplomatic compounds and other steps to relieve tensions with Moscow. Source
- 6/1/2017 - Confirming the yahoo report, Daniel Fried, who served as a senior diplomat until he retired in late February, said he became aware of the sanctions effort in the early weeks of Trump's presidency. He said State Department colleagues approached him, "concerned that the Trump administration, the incoming team was going to unilaterally rescind the sanctions on Russia, which had been placed there because of Russia's aggression on Ukraine. And it was further said by these people that there would be no action required from Russia." Source
- 7/18/2017 - Hours into a long dinner with world leaders who had gathered for the Group of 20 summit meeting, President Trump left his chair at the sprawling banquet table and headed to where President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia was seated. The July 7 meeting in Hamburg, Germany, was the single most scrutinized of the Trump presidency. But it turned out there was another, potentially just as important, encounter: a roughly hourlong one-on-one discussion over dinner that was only overheard by a Kremlin-provided interpreter. This had not been disclosed previously by the WH. Source
Based on my firm belief that very very few people voted for Trump due to what some Russian troll said on Twitter. As for the leaked emails... I'm actually very glad her skullduggery was exposed, especially those revelations about scheming with terrorists. That sort of evil shit should be exposed. We're all a lot better off knowing about that level of depravity at the very top.
Well done, you almost had me
Oh dear.
You're again ignoring the key point here - it's not about whether or not Russia swung the election. That's immaterial - they've probably tried to do so before, and will no doubt continue in future attempts at doing so. The US similarly are far from perfect when it comes to meddling in the affairs of other countries. What's important here is whether the active candidate who ended up winning the race and who is now governing the country colluded with that foreign power in a bid to undermine the democratic electoral process. That's what matters here, hence why he's being investigated. Give Pexbo's post a read - I'm all for a genuine rebuttal on this topic but marching in and saying you've not really followed it but simultaneously think it's bollocks at the same time is a bit bizarre and speaks to your preconceived biases concerning the states we're discussing here more than anything else.
What?
That's me convinced then.
Trump's word is good enough for me
I freely admit I wrote the whole thing off as people unable to comprehend Trump's victory and scapegoating. Maybe it was. Maybe it wasn't. Nothing quite so mindbogglingly mad has ever happened before and I sincerely hope the world comes to it's collective senses and never allows anything like it to happen again. Maybe, as everyone in this thread seems to think, it's not a kooky sideshow to deflect from what is really going on. I'll leave the thread. I bet it goes on and on and leads nowhere.
Aren't you a Jeremy Corbyn guy?
It's interesting how you always choose the flippant comments and try to provoke a cheap arguments rather than address the posts which challenge you in a more constructive fashion.
What? I wanted to know what he meant by "Oh dear".
If you have a lack of understanding on what's happening then why not read the link I gave you or the post @Pexbo made. It's no good you just coming into the thread saying 'I haven't been following this but' then spout a load of nonsense. Read up on it.
Yes. Why?
There was a big WaPo article about it...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-did-much-of-anything/?utm_term=.40c3b00d6a4a
There’s still little evidence that Russia’s 2016 social media efforts did much of anything
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Fair comment. I might do that.
I'm out of this thread.
I’d wish he’d change his username too.
I’m not necessarily disagreeing with that particular point, it’s just that his response made me laugh. I was thinking he’d dish out some articles and then he goes on basing his original comments off his own thoughts.
Come on lad, you were getting on so well arguing against facts with you're feelings and beliefs.
Which word is that? Sad, Bing or Bong?
Well no, I thought you were supposed to be more clued up with the intelligent arguments you made in that thread.
LOSER!
I wonder what folks like you would have said if Obama did 1/3 of these things Trump is allegedly accused of?
You realise people have plead guilty already to lighter sentences because they've flipped and given info on more important people?
"I've not followed or read anything about this but it's clearly bullshit".
Post of the year right there.
Post of the year right there.
Wait until you hear about the paedophile pizza ring mate..
I think some of the links provided on this page would help bring you up to speed and, jokes aside, I think a lot of us would genuinely love to see your reaction after reading up on it a bit.
Have the awards happened yet?
These rumours about a possible Trump interview could suggest that Mueller is in a very advanced stage of assembling his case.
I think it's apt. Mostly left wing but competent on the right.
Hillary was scheming with terrorists?
The Israel thing is deeply fecking frustrating its like a clique of big tough kids in school protecting an asshole lackey and allowing him to bully weak kids at will like he has serious dirt on them or something. Its horrendous.
Why is it a load of bullshit?
Well a similar concern would only be warranted by a similar level of meddling, surely. Therefore you think both these alleged meddling episodes are equally bullshit? Surely you are not just deflecting.