Trump/Russia/SDNY investigation

Are people here absolutely convinced of collusion? To be honest I haven't reached that stage yet - although I do think it's possible.

I mean, I do think Trump's team was a cess-pit of dodgy feckers but the indictments are for things that pretty much everyone would expect those sorts to get up-to, right?

I feel more-or-less the same about Hillary's lot - and I reckon if you dug into their affairs closely enough you could probably find similarly arrest-worthy shit.
 
Papadopolous has admitted guilt on doing exactly what trump is accused of, colluding with the russians. The transcript even shows him telling the campaign team trump can't make the meeting in person because it will look suspicious.

They will still need more evidence to take trump himself down, but I think that its fairly certain now that what was claimed to have been going on, really was going on.

Notice, even now, no sanctions against russia from trump, the deadine was october 1st
 
Tarrou said:
Are people here absolutely convinced of collusion? To be honest I haven't reached that stage yet - although I do think it's possible.

I mean, I do think Trump's team was a cess-pit of dodgy feckers but the indictments are for things that pretty much everyone would expect those sorts to get up-to, right?

I feel more-or-less the same about Hillary's lot - and I reckon if you dug into their affairs closely enough you could probably find similarly arrest-worthy shit.
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There's no collusion. This is just the life of a lazy narcissist who likes to delegate all his decisions to other people, unfortunately for him the people he delegated to thought they could arse lick him into accepting some very dodgy advice.
 

White House chief of staff John Kelly said Monday that the Russia investigation is “very distracting” to President Trump, despite the White House saying that the indictments have “nothing to do” with the president.

"It is very distracting to the president, as it would be to any citizen, to be investigated," Kelly said in an interview with Fox News's Laura Ingraham.
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10 pages in this thread in 24hrs :O
 
Tarrou said:
Are people here absolutely convinced of collusion? To be honest I haven't reached that stage yet - although I do think it's possible.

I mean, I do think Trump's team was a cess-pit of dodgy feckers but the indictments are for things that pretty much everyone would expect those sorts to get up-to, right?

I feel more-or-less the same about Hillary's lot - and I reckon if you dug into their affairs closely enough you could probably find similarly arrest-worthy shit.
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I think the post on this law blog (not Bob Loblaw's*) sums yesterday up well:

The first big takeaway from Monday morning’s flurry of charging and plea documents with respect to Paul Manafort Jr., Richard Gates III and George Papadopoulos is this: The president of the United States had as his campaign chairman a man who had allegedly served for years as an unregistered foreign agent for a puppet government of Vladimir Putin, a man who was allegedly laundering remarkable sums of money even while running the now-president’s campaign, a man who allegedly lied about all of this to the FBI and the Justice Department.

The second big takeaway is even starker: A member of President Trump’s campaign team admits that he was working with people he knew to be tied to the Russian government to “arrange a meeting between the Campaign and the Russian government officials” and to obtain “dirt” on Hillary Clinton in the form of thousands of hacked emails—and that he lied about these activities to the FBI. He briefed President Trump on at least some of them.
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https://lawfareblog.com/robert-muellers-show-strength-quick-and-dirty-analysis

Re: Clintons vs Trump - it's entirely possible the Clintons are just better criminals. But given the resources put into investigating them over the years, for far less suspicious activities, it makes me think that it's been a lot of huff and puff over far more minor indiscretions. Are they saints? No, of course not. They've certainly used their political capital to enrich themselves. But I found what Trump & Co are doing (beyond the collusion as well) to be far more insidious and dangerous to the US in the long-run.
 
unchanged_lineup said:
Who on the Leave side honestly thought it was a good idea sharing a video where he squirms so much :lol:

Brings joy to my heart to see him so uncomfortable.
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:lol: Yeah great to see the prick squirm. I'd love to see that scum get all wrapped up in this!

Though the comment at the end from that woman in the middle didn't help things, I really can't stand stuff like that. They already had the upper hand, no need to then make it about a stupid dig.
 
With Papadopoulos, should be very easy to show who was paying for his trips to meet the people described in the plea agreement. As always, they follow the money
 
Member 5225 said:
This is odd. The plot thickens:

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The document filed yesterday by Mueller describes him as a "proactive cooperator," meaning somebody who is actively working with law enforcement in the investigation, perhaps even wearing a wire. The most likely scenario is that Mueller wanted him to post this photo (and probably others in the past) to give the impression that all was normal and maintain the illusion that he hadn't started collaborating with investigators.
 
Raoul said:
Lock him up!

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There's something a bit disconcerting about politicians trying to pin their own crimes on the 'establishment.' A genuine sense of entitlement that they can do whatever the feck what they want and expect to get away with it because of their own political agenda.
 
Nogbadthebad said:
The simulation theory gets more likely by the minute.

A bloke sharing a surname with sharon papadopolous, which was a name used a gag for about 10 series of birds of a feather, is now a central figure in a plot by the russians to take control of the US executive.

The only possible explanation is that its a simulation, and some coder is having a right laugh.
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He was also a cheat striker in one of the updates for Championship Manager 01/02. Your simulation coder is a CM fan
 
Raoul said:
:lol::lol::lol:

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I know everyone here myself included would enjoy to see him get charged but is this even remotely possible? For one he's a British National who isn't an American Politician and wasn't really involved in their campaign bar guest appearances. Not to mention the fact any evidence would presumable his word against one witness.
 
Raoul said:
How odd given that a lot of journos are referencing the article today. Wonder if there's something else going on in another article.
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Strange.

I only noticed when I mentioned it to someone, they googled 'Farage FBI' and the only hits were June.
 
unchanged_lineup said:
No posting rule? Aw you're missing out :lol:
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Nah mate, life and the mood I've been in recently I would just be banned instantly. It's been so hard reading some of the bullshit in this thread and the Trump thread without replying but fun reading you lot doing a good job slapping the muppets down and saving me getting booted :lol:
 
langster said:
Nah mate, life and the mood I've been in recently I would just be banned instantly. It's been so hard reading some of the bullshit in this thread and the Trump thread without replying but fun reading you lot doing a good job slapping the muppets down and saving me getting booted :lol:
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Fight the good fight! (with yourself to make you not post) :D
 
Cheesy said:
There's something a bit disconcerting about politicians trying to pin their own crimes on the 'establishment.' A genuine sense of entitlement that they can do whatever the feck what they want and expect to get away with it because of their own political agenda.
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A bit like how he detests Europe yet still lied to German authorities about being resident there for 6 years so he could get a German passport the day after Brexit?
 
Raoul said:
I'd imagine Hope Hicks and Skeletor are on the list.
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Apparently they have proof that Sessions lied when under oath, so I bet he's high on the list too. (proof coming from statements that contradict Sessions answers and versions of events)
 
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