Those don't apply at the state level, so if a state attorney general wants to charge Trump or one of his co-conspirators like Cohen with something then pardons and the like don't count there.
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Those don't apply at the state level, so if a state attorney general wants to charge Trump or one of his co-conspirators like Cohen with something then pardons and the like don't count there.
I honestly don’t think the Republicans would be in favour of removing it, they know a Republican President can use it with little effect politically while it’s suicide for a democrat President.
Have you guys see this?
Ridiculous seems a bit harsh imo. There is a rationale to it as it should be trading political gain (= gain of the country) against justice in individual cases. What I think is ridiculous is the exposure of the priviledge to possible abuse by the president in the US. A lot of countries have it, but leaving it to the legislative branch is more common.
It's such a stupid thing to lie about
He obviously misjudged how easy it would be to debunk his nonsense.
He's like a little boy with chocolate all round his mouth getting asked if he ate the chocolate cake and insisting it wasn't him.
Which is why I'm pining for him to testify under oath. I'm not sure he even knows what perjury means .
He's used to having his lies accepted as truth, without a dissenting voice to be heard.
That has been the most jarring thing about all this. It was quite obvious that he'd played fast and loose with rules, regulations, and laws during his career. You'd think that would have been enough to steer them away from the scrutiny that would come with any public office, never mind POTUS. Yet they didn't care, and it didn't matter enough to the voting public. And they did nothing to change their ways once in power. Hopefully that hubris is their downfall.
Yeah. That's the stupid part!
Donald BogtrotterI can't decide if I like Macron and can't tell if he actually likes Trump or he's playing him like a fiddle.
I can't decide if I like Macron and can't tell if he actually likes Trump or he's playing him like a fiddle.
Its probably 10% the former and 90% the latter.
Sounds like a fishing expedition to me.
So what exactly is it you would like to discuss... and what evidence do you have to suggest that might involve Trump...
Maybe Rudy will do us all a favor and get Trump to testify.
Never going to happen, they know it’s suicide.
I think they’re at defcon 2 right now. Cohen in big trouble, Manafort in big trouble, Flynn in big trouble, Gates in big trouble and half the Trump orbit likely in the cross hairs.
I think Rudy was digging into what Mueller wants to talk about, if anything particularly hazardous comes up they’d step the game up and consider the nuclear option. Mueller obviously played it low key and suggested they only discuss the Comey firing which I think is the easiest to defend for team Trump due to Comey’s stock plummeting recently and pretty much the entire GOP being against him.
Public discourse is not going to matter in an interview with Mueller. I think Comey is actually one of the hardest things to handle for Trump since it‘s proven that he had what appear to be unusual contacts with him (him staying behind, the calls, the dinner) that together with high credibility testimony from Comey is hard to explain away.
That's exactly the way I see it too. It wouldn't surprise me if Macron and Trudeau came up with some kind of bet or dare between them to see who can troll him the hardest.
Innit though...
Is there anything stopping Mueller legally from lying to the President and his team? Lying to Giuliani?
Like how he's not under investigation and so on then dropping a shitload of indictments against him?
I’ve been thinking about this a lot recently, and I can’t see anything preventing it. Cops are allowed to lie to suspects.
Trump just called into fox and threw Michael Cowen under the bus . Basically saying Cowen is hardly a lawyer for him
Trump just called into fox and threw Michael Cowen under the bus . Basically saying Cowen is hardly a lawyer for him
Not just the clip above but the full call to F&F is worth a watch/listen just to see how much of a stable genius we re really dealing with here. It's really one crazy long rant.
Lyin' Ted Cruz among the 7 dissenters....
Hatch, Utah
Cornyn, Texas
Lee, Utah
Cruz, Texas
Sasse, Nebraska
Crapo, Idaho
Kennedy, Louisiana
Is this the amended version or the Democrat's original bill? Fienstein said she wouldn't vote on the amended version didn't she? It essentially gave the GOP senators too much power over Mueller.
Watching now, it’s insane.
Its bipartisan apparently.
There's a massive pressure campaign to push McConnell to allow a full floor vote. If he does, there's probably enough support to make it veto proof.