Television True Detective | Season 2 Spoilers

Up until episode 5 it had the potential to be up there as one of the best individual seasons. It was amazing.
 
A poor final episode, a little bit too rushed in comparison to the previous episodes but a very good show overall.
 
Just watched the final episode, really loved it from the off. I always enjoy stuff that have a dark understory, it reels you in. Cast was brilliant, ill miss Woody and Matthew.

As stated above, would have liked to understand more or yellow king and carcosa, we got snippets when Rust made his way in. Im not the greatest at putting everything together, felt like 100s of tuttles and a good few childers, shit like that I have to rewatch to 100% link it together. But that is only the minute details.
 
I started this on Saturday and finished it this morning. I thought it was absolutely fantastic. McConaughey was brilliant in it. My only little gripe was that the last episode seemed a little rushed.
 
I loved McConaughey and I must be one of the few that didn't mind the last episode. The tension as he was walking through the labrynth was great. The only problem was the lack of explanations regarding the wider web of the Tuttles and what Carcosa was.
 
Ok, this may be a bit late but nobody mentioned it in the thread. And I just read the interview today from March.

Interviewer: Can you tell me anything at all about season 2?

Nic Pizzolatto: Okay. This is really early, but I'll tell you (it's about) hard women, bad men and the secret occult history of the United States transportation system.
 
Just finished this.

As others have said, it was a very good show with one very stupid moment (how the feck do you manage to paint your own ears?).

Reading through this thread and other stuff online though it seems like a lot of people were a) building the show up too much too early, b) really over analysing certain details and c) expecting resolutions to things that never seemed likely to be resolved imo.

For example, I never really expected us to find the Yellow King or even thought it was that important. I figured it was just a literary reference meant to add layers to the show rather than an actual crucial plot point. Symbolism and stuff.

The thing about Marty's daughter really threw me too, all the theories about how she was abused by the cult or the grandfather or whatever. Was I really the only person who didn't think the way she was acting out had something to do with the cult? I just figured it was to do with the absence of her father and problems at home. I mean she drew a few pictures and slept with a couple of guys, hardly massively damning stuff is it? Maybe we were supposed to think she was involved and I'm just dense but it really didn't jump out at me as a particularly strong link...

Anyway, definitely a quality show. The people who were proclaiming is as one of the greatest ever before it had even reached the halfway point in season 1 probably built expectations too high for themselves though.
 
It probably was better for people who binge watched this rather than soaking in every episode for a week, built up crazy expectations, especially after those episodes in the middle.
 
The acting by both was stupendous. But the story line was rather weak and incoherent in a lot of ways.
 
Twin Peaks is a fair enough comparison, but Twin Peaks was batshit insane with a strange sense of humour. This has a serious tone throughout.

Can't wait for the second season of this.
 
Sally Cinnamon said:
Twin Peaks is a fair enough comparison, but Twin Peaks was batshit insane with a strange sense of humour. This has a serious tone throughout.

Can't wait for the second season of this.
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twin peaks had elements of surrealism which i agree threw people off, but for me it was unreal. Like the tv series version of blue velvet (by the same director). Very mysterious
 
just finished it. awesome. rust has to be one of the best characters i've seen.

as for the green ears thing -- i'm surprised people have reacted so strongly against it. i'm pretty sure he didn't paint them on purpose. it's quite likely that you would get a splash of green paint on your face/ears/whatever - if you wipe your brow or whatever. and besides, the description came from a traumitised young girl, who described scars as "spaghetti"; i will forgive her if "green ears" wasn't literally perfectly green painted ears.

i also agree that the link from green ears to green house was a little tenuous, but ultimately it didn't really matter to me. the best part of the show, the unique part, was always the two main characters - the whole serial killer/mystery element to it was basically secondary to me, so i think those who have leapt upon some of those inconsistencies have missed the point somewhat. i agree some of the criticisms are valid, but it ultimately didn't detract from the rest of the show.

i expected rust to die, and it would probably have been more satisfying instead of the rather optimistic finish, but then again in retrospect, the near death thing tied in with the monolouge he had earlier in the season where he talked about the peace people experienced right before they died - i.e. being able to "let go" -- i figured rust's potential death would harken back to that, but if he was to have died, i don't know how the writers would have conveyed that "peace". i think ultimately by having him live and be able to explain the love he felt from his daughter, did the job really. it gave him something to hold onto. i didn't take it as a 180 turn by him as others have suggested as a form of criticism of the ending (and if it was a 180 i would also have been pissed) -- but he obviously isn't going to become religious or an optimist or anything else -- he is still going to be nihilistic. he just was able to experience a sense of love again, which he had lost. i think even he deserved that.

it's a shame these two characters are now gone - particularly rust. he's gotta be one of the best characters i've seen in a long time, and it's funny how so many people seem to be able to relate to a nihilistic, drunken loner. he did make a hell of a lot of sense though. season 2 will inevitably not match up to this one, just because there will be different characters. so in that sense it's sad it's all over in only 8 episodes. it was a hell of a ride though.
 
pauldyson1uk said:
Season 2 is neing done but not with Matthew McConaughey and Woody Harrelson they both quit, Brad Pitt is being tipped for one of the spots.
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They didn't really quit. The show is going to be an anthology that covers different cases for each season. It's based off a serial that covers different characters and cases in each issue. I imagine there will be a female detective in the next series to respond to the criticism of the first lacking any substantial female characters.

septic said:
just finished it. awesome. rust has to be one of the best characters i've seen.

as for the green ears thing -- i'm surprised people have reacted so strongly against it. i'm pretty sure he didn't paint them on purpose. it's quite likely that you would get a splash of green paint on your face/ears/whatever - if you wipe your brow or whatever. and besides, the description came from a traumitised young girl, who described scars as "spaghetti"; i will forgive her if "green ears" wasn't literally perfectly green painted ears.

i also agree that the link from green ears to green house was a little tenuous, but ultimately it didn't really matter to me. the best part of the show, the unique part, was always the two main characters - the whole serial killer/mystery element to it was basically secondary to me, so i think those who have leapt upon some of those inconsistencies have missed the point somewhat. i agree some of the criticisms are valid, but it ultimately didn't detract from the rest of the show.

i expected rust to die, and it would probably have been more satisfying instead of the rather optimistic finish, but then again in retrospect, the near death thing tied in with the monolouge he had earlier in the season where he talked about the peace people experienced right before they died - i.e. being able to "let go" -- i figured rust's potential death would harken back to that, but if he was to have died, i don't know how the writers would have conveyed that "peace". i think ultimately by having him live and be able to explain the love he felt from his daughter, did the job really. it gave him something to hold onto. i didn't take it as a 180 turn by him as others have suggested as a form of criticism of the ending (and if it was a 180 i would also have been pissed) -- but he obviously isn't going to become religious or an optimist or anything else -- he is still going to be nihilistic. he just was able to experience a sense of love again, which he had lost. i think even he deserved that.

it's a shame these two characters are now gone - particularly rust. he's gotta be one of the best characters i've seen in a long time, and it's funny how so many people seem to be able to relate to a nihilistic, drunken loner. he did make a hell of a lot of sense though. season 2 will inevitably not match up to this one, just because there will be different characters. so in that sense it's sad it's all over in only 8 episodes. it was a hell of a ride though.
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I agree about the green ears thing. It's a small, distress child who notices the scars and that he has some green paint on his ears but little else.

The other great character in the series was the setting in rural Louisiana. It's an area that has lots of character to focus on.
 
Damn, just watching this now. Only on episode 3 ( haven't read any of the thread and have avoided any spoilers ) but this is proper stuff. McConaughey is quality.
 
Regarding the "green ears" part, I always assumed it was because he wore green ear protectors when doing his maintenance, like he kept them on all the time :lol:

Probably makes more sense being paint, but the drawings look like ear defenders too!
 
septic said:
just finished it. awesome. rust has to be one of the best characters i've seen.

as for the green ears thing -- i'm surprised people have reacted so strongly against it. i'm pretty sure he didn't paint them on purpose. it's quite likely that you would get a splash of green paint on your face/ears/whatever - if you wipe your brow or whatever. and besides, the description came from a traumitised young girl, who described scars as "spaghetti"; i will forgive her if "green ears" wasn't literally perfectly green painted ears.

i also agree that the link from green ears to green house was a little tenuous, but ultimately it didn't really matter to me. the best part of the show, the unique part, was always the two main characters - the whole serial killer/mystery element to it was basically secondary to me, so i think those who have leapt upon some of those inconsistencies have missed the point somewhat. i agree some of the criticisms are valid, but it ultimately didn't detract from the rest of the show.
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Yes, a bit of green paint may have splashed on his ears. For all we know he could have just had one of those days and managed to splash an entire paint can on himself and didn't clean it off his ears properly. That's not a big stretch. And no-one thinks that the young girl saw perfectly painted green ears. It was a cartoon monster and his unusual features were exaggerated - that's obvious. The reaction was not to his ears being painted green but the way they discovered the serial killer through the link of green ears/green house. It was just an absurd Eureka moment. It's not even simply about them drawing the link between the ears and the house, it's the discovery of that link that is just so weak and lazy. It reverts back to being a standard detective show with lazy writing. It's a defining moment of the story and it was handled incredibly poorly. Seriously, just watch it again:



The only thing about this scene that makes it anything other than a lazy, shoddily written, middle-of-the-road police procedural is the relationship between the two characters. That's it. It's pretentious bollocks to suggest that anyone who comes away with a slightly critical view on the show because of this has simply missed the point of the show. Everyone who liked the show liked it for the same reason you did and everyone could see that the serial killer mystery was mainly a platform for these two characters, their deeply personal stories and the character and relationship development. You can recognise that and still think that the discovery of the serial killer was weak and leaves a bad taste. No matter what way you look at it it is a defining moment of the plot, the setting, the secondary aspect of the show or however you want to describe it, and when you see that a key aspect of the plot is built on such a weak premise you see cracks develop. It doesn't all fall apart but it changes how you look at it. And then the fact the serial killer was just some bog-standard Texas Chainsaw massacre hillbilly (as someone else said), it does unfortunately change how you view the rest of it. It could have been the best first season of a series that I've ever seen but it lost its way towards the end.
 
Nic Pizzolatto Reveals The First Details On ‘True Detective’ Season Two

“Right now, we’re working with three leads. It takes place in California. Not Los Angeles, but some of the lesser known venues of California and we’re going to try to capture a certain psychosphere ambience of the place, much like we did with season one. The characters are all new, but I am deeply in love with all of them. We have the entire season broken out, and I have a couple of scripts, and we’ll probably start casting within the coming month.”
 
Yes it does.

Just finished reading Galveston, liked it. He's a talented dude this Pizzolatto.
 
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