Trudeau accuses Indian government of involvement in killing of Canadian Sikh leader

[TheGame]

One would say you are doing that.

You are just a trolling at this point now. Its clear you have no idea about anything related to India but jump on bandwagon to hate on Hindus and India by creating fake realities in your head

I have tackled all the points of 1984 Sikh riots. Explained why its not what you claim it to be. How it isnt 2002 Godhra riots and how Politically created violence against communities have happened before following assassination. You have no clue whatsoever about it but have qualms in insulting and labelling me. I am done with this discussion with you.

Oh bore off, once again they were not Sikh riots, but a genocide against Sikhs. The fact you cant even admit that shows that you are a genocide denier and a Modi apologist for his brutal actions against anyone who isn't a Hindu. The fake realities are created by you. Your arguments have been torn apart yet you just keep on posting your gibberish.

 

[Kaush949]

Indian Canadian (Hindu) here.

I am seeing India is following Israel's playbook.

Israel => India
Jews => Hindus

Anyone who criticizes BJP will be labeled as an 'Hinduphobe' now? dafuq?

@pratyush_utd 'Hinduphobe' is the most moronic thing I have ever heard. It is as cringeworthy as 'Hindutva'. It makes me feel embarrassed to even hear such a word.

You see an one isolated incident where a few Khalistani numbnuts attacked one or two temples and suddenly you to want throw idiotic labels like 'Hinduphobes'. This is victim mentality 101.

What's next? "India has the right to exist as a hindu homeland?"

 

[pratyush_utd]

Oh bore off, once again they were not Sikh riots, but a genocide against Sikhs. The fact you cant even admit that shows that you are a genocide denier and a Modi apologist for his brutal actions against anyone who isn't a Hindu. The fake realities are created by you. Your arguments have been torn apart yet you just keep on posting your gibberish.

Bloody hell did you even read what i wrote about the event? I told it was genocide, anti Sikh riots. Why are you hung on semantics? I just explained what really happened which led to that event and how it is not exactly same as 2002 riots because you claimed it was. You know it can be genocide but the background reason can be different. You really need to calm down and actually read. I never defended the killers, but the context of events is important to understand here.

Indian Canadian (Hindu) here.

I am seeing India is following Israel's playbook.

Israel => India
Jews => Hindus

Anyone who criticizes BJP will be labeled as an 'Hinduphobe' now? dafuq?

@pratyush_utd 'Hinduphobe' is the most moronic thing I have ever heard. It is as cringeworthy as 'Hindutva'. It makes me feel embarrassed to even hear such a word.

You see an one isolated incident where a few Khalistani numbnuts attacked one or two temples and suddenly you to want throw idiotic labels like 'Hinduphobes'. This is victim mentality 101.

What's next? "India has the right to exist as a hindu homeland?"

Standing up against attack on temple is now “BJP supporters”? How dumb is that? I pointed out the organisation who did the attack are Hinduphobe, and people who painted the reaction post attack on temple as “Anti Sikh” are hinduphobes. And i stand by it, you can have different opinions about it.

I am not here answering for government or defending it. There is not a single mention of BJP in my response.

I am not sure how your religion is relevant here. Does that make your opinion more relevant? And make others opinion less relevant?

 

[Cheimoon]

Canada has created this problem on its own. Canada has given shelter to criminals who escaped after killing Indian citizens both Sikh and Hindus. This “extremism” issue is Canada problem. There are hardly any takers of Khalistan in India.

I was wondering what you were referring to here with a problem that Canada created. To my knowledge, until these recent events, there haven't really been any problems with Sikhs in Canada for a long time. I am not going to claim I know everything that's happened within Sikh and other South Asian communities, but based on recent news, the main issue seems to be around a large Indian gang targetting individuals in Canada: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/south-asian-extortion-threats-1.7379365. There are also random individuals who somehow get targeted by Indian outlets (and subsequently individuals): https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-border-india-sikh-modi-1.7380804/. Nothing to do with Sikhs creating trouble. India did make numerous extradition requests for Sikhs, but the RCMP has said that those are often so low on evidence that they can't be actioned at all.

You don't have to believe any of that, of course, and I'm sure there are Indian sources claiming pretty much the opposite. But you'd have to wonder why Canada would claim these things baselessly. It's got nothing to gain; in fact, in terms of trade, Canada would love to get closely connected with India, which has obviously become very hard through this whole thing. That's a big thing economically. And the political arguments (Trudeau trying to save his government at the next elections) make little sense either. The Sikh community doesn't decide elections, the whole thing risks estranging other groups - plus most crucially, the accusations come from the RCMP, which isn't run by politicians.

So I don't know what criminal or extremist problem in Canada you are referring to.

 

[Cheimoon]

There is an article on CBC today, where they did some research into narratives on social media and regular media related to this topic.

A wave of misinformation about Canadian institutions is being amplified by suspected bot accounts on social media and by pro-Modi news outlets in India, raising concerns it could imperil relations between Sikhs and Hindus in Canada.

CBC News reviewed hundreds of posts on X and dozens of hours of footage streamed on YouTube in the days before and after clashes outside Hindu temples in Surrey, B.C., and Brampton, Ont., in November. The analysis identified several posts containing misleading and inflammatory comments about the Khalistan movement — which advocates for an independent state for Sikhs — and Sikh Canadians in general that were recirculated by suspicious accounts. Some of these claims were then repeated on Indian media outlets sympathetic to Prime Minister Narendra Modi.

A parallel analysis of pro-Khalistan accounts also revealed numerous unverified claims, but only marginal amplification by suspected bots.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/bots-temple-clashes-hindu-sikh-canada-1.7411094

It seems pretty obvious that India's behaviour is problematic here.