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I don't. But to think everything you read is rubbish is naive to say the least.

Easy to bury your head in the sand. The facts are the last two summers we've not done what we needed in terms of player recruitment leaving it to the last minute. This summer has been better - but we're still short at least a striker and have the De Gea situation hanging over the club.

We have had to rebuild the entire squad, not the team but the squad. We have managed to do that in just over a year and have a far better squad than any time in the last three years. Terrible indeed.
 
The reason we get posts like that is because the last time we bought a player was 1 month and 10 days ago. To please the fans we should have spread out the signings of Darmian, Schneiderlin and Schweinsteiger over the course of that month to keep the muppets happy. Feck it, we should have just signed Depay last week instead of back in May.

We'd have an unfit squad that hasn't gelled properly yet but at least we would be making regular signings!

Don't insult my intelligence. I'm not some fan boy obsessing on football manager.

I still think we need at least a forward. A wide player would be nice and maybe a keeper if De Gea goes.

That gives us what we need to really gave a tilt at the title in my opinion.
 
What's embarrassing is chasing a player for weeks, being close to a deal then "falling asleep" (according to said player's agent) while your rivals come in at the 11th our and do a deal in no time flat.

It's obviously not easy signing top players but he's done himself no favours talking about marquee names and big signings and not delivering.

It's easy, and fair for the press to ask why other clubs can get deals done and United, despite having bucket loads of money, can't.
Yeah it's not like we made any deals this summer. Oh wait.
As for Pedro,you believe what you want to believe. Woodward hasn't been saying anything about big names this summer and has targeted only Muller if we don't count Neymar which is completely made up story.
 
We have had to rebuild the entire squad, not the team but the squad. We have managed to do that in just over a year and have a far better squad than any time in the last three years. Terrible indeed.

It's a lot better but still, for me, not as good as our rivals. They've added quality in areas they needed it and we had a huge gap to bridge.
 
Yeah it's not like we made any deals this summer. Oh wait.
As for Pedro,you believe what you want to believe. Woodward hasn't been saying anything about big names this summer and has targeted only Muller if we don't count Neymar which is completely made up story.

I guess we'll see how good this squad is at the end of the season if nobody else comes in.
 
I guess we'll see how good this squad is at the end of the season if nobody else comes in.
All I'm saying it's not black and white. He hasn't done a top job as you're saying but he has done a very good job imo. All of the players we bought look like a big improvement. We are still one or 2 players short up front but it's on Woodward to get the players LVG wants.
 
We're light up front and out wide and may yet lose a top class keeper. And we've got a midfielder playing centre back.

The players who've come in improve us. We still need more to compete over a 50 game season. Chelsea and City have better squads. Arsenal are a striker short of having a better squad for me.

Yes, you're right. But building a team takes time. He wants the right players. Obviously he didn't think Pedro was the right player. Or it could be that Pedro didn't want to come here. Who knows? Certainly not the press or twitter.
 
What's embarrassing is chasing a player for weeks, being close to a deal then "falling asleep" (according to said player's agent) while your rivals come in at the 11th our and do a deal in no time flat.

It's obviously not easy signing top players but he's done himself no favours talking about marquee names and big signings and not delivering.


It's easy, and fair for the press to ask why other clubs can get deals done and United, despite having bucket loads of money, can't.


Signs Memphis, Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger and Darmian (all who started yesterday's match) before the team embarked on the summer tour but failed to sign Barcelona sub Pedro = Can't close a deal and can't deliver big signings.
 
You talk as if it's some kind of anti-United bias.

Woodward's ability to get deals done is rightly being questioned given the Pedro debacle. Too many big players targeted and not enough signed. It's starting to get embarrassing.

Woah
 
It's a lot better but still, for me, not as good as our rivals. They've added quality in areas they needed it and we had a huge gap to bridge.
again as @Getsme said we needed to rebuild the entire team, others had a skeleton ready and now for a couple of seasons have opportunity to add quality in areas that they need, we are now at this stage when 2-3 WC players can make us a real force.

and i think rivals didn't strengthen as much as they should or didn't do in right areas:
City - they need to strengthen midfield and defense first, then maybe one attacker. Yes they bought Otamendi but Kompany is stil question mark, as is Zabaleta, they didn't do very well last season. They didn't strengthen midfield at all and this was and still is their weakest area.
Chelsea - they neded defender because Terry is getting older and older. They didn't bought defender till now.
Arsenal - they needed a GK (they bought) but didn't bought DM and a striker which they need

We needed DM, replacement for Carrick, a RB and winger. We got them all, we maybe still need a new winger and a striker but time will tell if we will by them.
 
It's a lot better but still, for me, not as good as our rivals. They've added quality in areas they needed it and we had a huge gap to bridge.
They already had an excellent team to build on; we more or less had to start from scratch, that can’t be undermined.
The expectations some fans have from our team is blinkering their ability to see where the team is going, we are one or two signings away from having a first 11 to rival any team in the world, not only that but a second string team that would do very well in the Premiership. The difficulty is, and I fully understand it is we have to start getting the right player instead of taking a gamble in the hope that it pays off, we’ve been burnt far too many times and the Di Maria farce has to be the last straw in terms of getting players in who see their long term future elsewhere. I’d personally have a player who would give his all for the shirt over a galactico who is in it for the pay check.
This takes time, more than one season anyway.
 
Ah leave the muppets they are never happy. If Woody does the transfers late like last year he is quilty becase we dropped points when new players weren't here or were adapting, now when he did the job early muppets going crazy because we are possibly done in the market and others are buying new players.
Woody simly can't win in this fight.
If he signs anyone law it will be called a panic buy
 
We need to cut the club a bit of slack with this rebuilding. Look at what we've lost over the last couple of seasons.
Giggs, Scholes, Ferdinand, Evra, van Persie. Di Maria didn't work out.
You can't fix that in a year.
 
Woodward is being played out of position, obviously.
 
All I'm saying it's not black and white. He hasn't done a top job as you're saying but he has done a very good job imo. All of the players we bought look like a big improvement. We are still one or 2 players short up front but it's on Woodward to get the players LVG wants.

I agree, it isn't black and white, but where this started was that for me, the press questioning of out transfers is reasonable.

I agree we're short and we may get what we need. I just see this happening like it has over the last couple of summers at the moment - waiting until the last minute. Hopefully we still add where we need to add.
 
again as @Getsme said we needed to rebuild the entire team, others had a skeleton ready and now for a couple of seasons have opportunity to add quality in areas that they need, we are now at this stage when 2-3 WC players can make us a real force.

and i think rivals didn't strengthen as much as they should or didn't do in right areas:
City - they need to strengthen midfield and defense first, then maybe one attacker. Yes they bought Otamendi but Kompany is stil question mark, as is Zabaleta, they didn't do very well last season. They didn't strengthen midfield at all and this was and still is their weakest area.
Chelsea - they neded defender because Terry is getting older and older. They didn't bought defender till now.
Arsenal - they needed a GK (they bought) but didn't bought DM and a striker which they need

We needed DM, replacement for Carrick, a RB and winger. We got them all, we maybe still need a new winger and a striker but time will tell if we will by them.

That's the point I'm making. We're better off than we were, obviously. But is "better" good enough to compete with the best sides in Europe or in the league over a season?

Other sides had less to do - City have added a couple and Otamendi may solve their defensive issued. Chelsea look a bit stronger and may do more still. We need to bridge the gap and as such probably need to do more than we have.

If the club has the money why not improve where we need to to have a real go at the title?
 
Probably...but we could do worse as an alternative option. Got pace that we badly need

I agree. I'm a fan. He's got great composure, looks a solid finisher and pace to burn. He's great off the shoulder. Seems to time his runs really well to get in behind.

I'd prefer him to Kane in all honesty. He would be much cheaper I predict, and he looks a lot more dangerous running at defenders. For Kane to prosper, everything would need to click within our front 4, and we're not doing that right now. I think Kane would have the same problem Rooney is having, waiting with his back to goal. He's having a similar problem at Spurs, as they look a bit disjointed up top.
 
That's the point I'm making. We're better off than we were, obviously. But is "better" good enough to compete with the best sides in Europe or in the league over a season?

Other sides had less to do - City have added a couple and Otamendi may solve their defensive issued. Chelsea look a bit stronger and may do more still. We need to bridge the gap and as such probably need to do more than we have.

If the club has the money why not improve where we need to to have a real go at the title?
But you can't in one season rebuild a team in a team that will be one of the favorites in a year. We did better then all other teams in the PL and i think we have squad good enough to challenge for the PL and EL: Ofcourse we are not among the favorites but we can do it.

City didn't build the team to challenge for the title in a year too and they still didn't do anything worth mentioning in the CL.
 
They already had an excellent team to build on; we more or less had to start from scratch, that can’t be undermined.
The expectations some fans have from our team is blinkering their ability to see where the team is going, we are one or two signings away from having a first 11 to rival any team in the world, not only that but a second string team that would do very well in the Premiership. The difficulty is, and I fully understand it is we have to start getting the right player instead of taking a gamble in the hope that it pays off, we’ve been burnt far too many times and the Di Maria farce has to be the last straw in terms of getting players in who see their long term future elsewhere. I’d personally have a player who would give his all for the shirt over a galactico who is in it for the pay check.
This takes time, more than one season anyway.

We've spent millions and to be honest, should be looking at challenging for the title.

The issue for me is a failure to address issues - instead taking risks and putting square pegs in round holes.

The players who come in improve us, but we're still light in areas. I find it odd that we want a centre back in Ramos but when that doesn't come off we make do with Blind. Why not go and get a centre half?

Likewise upfront - Rooney deserves a chance to lead the line but where's the cover? Hernandez - a player the manager farmed out last year and as such seems not to rate.

At the end of the day there are players out there who would improve us in areas we need if we want to challenge and if we don't get those players then it's surely right to question why.
 
I agree. I'm a fan. He's got great composure, looks a solid finisher and pace to burn. He's great off the shoulder. Seems to time his runs really well to get in behind.

I'd prefer him to Kane in all honesty. He would be much cheaper I predict, and he looks a lot more dangerous running at defenders. For Kane to prosper, everything would need to click within our front 4, and we're not doing that right now. I think Kane would have the same problem Rooney is having, waiting with his back to goal. He's having a similar problem at Spurs, as they look a bit disjointed up top.

Couldnt have said it better myself.
 
But you can't in one season rebuild a team in a team that will be one of the favorites in a year. We did better then all other teams in the PL and i think we have squad good enough to challenge for the PL and EL: Ofcourse we are not among the favorites but we can do it.

City didn't build the team to challenge for the title in a year too and they still didn't do anything worth mentioning in the CL.

You can bring in players to fill the gaps you have to do the best job you can. That gives you a chance of challenging.

I don't see the sense of taking risks in not addressing problems. I.e We're an injury to Rooney away from being disasterously short upfront. Our rivals meanwhile seem to be looking at their weaknesses and addressing them.
 
You can bring in players to fill the gaps you have to do the best job you can. That gives you a chance of challenging.

I don't see the sense of taking risks in not addressing problems. I.e We're an injury to Rooney away from being disasterously short upfront. Our rivals meanwhile seem to be looking at their weaknesses and addressing them.
At this moment i would rather have Hernandez than Rooney as our striker. If he was good enough to be Real backup last year he is good enough for us i think.
 
The state of football journalism is just so sad, the Sun decides to make up a silly rumor and you see other journos out with their knives


ahhhh, there it is! BS rumor repeated by several questionable sources is done enough to where it becomes truth and then is used to show how bad/delusional/stupid everyone is at United. Get ready for a lot more of this crap over the next few days.
 
Jesus, I hope we're not putting all of our eggs in this basket.

Their article does say we apparently think it's more likely to happen next summer than this, and it's just part of the long term strategy to bring him over. If somehow true, it feels like the reverse of what Real Madrid where they butter up the player for a year and then bring him over. We seem to be trying to butter up the club
 
Did SAF genuinely do a deal with the devil and now this is the fallout?

We're being made to look like absolute amateurs and everyones having a joke at our expense.

Thing with Neymar is where would we play him? Shift Memphis over to the right and play him on the left?

He's not a lead the line striker so he won't be replacing Rooney unless we go for a fluid attack with everyone changing positions (would actually be very good).
 
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