Transfer Tweets - Summer 2015 | Stop Spamming - Discussion Should Relate to Tweets
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Reasons why we may sell
1. Player is unhappy. There is no point in playing someone who feels unhappy in the team. It will be like playing 10 players. He is not going to be able to play to his full potential if he is unhappy.
2. another year like this is going to erode his value even further. We would have wasted time and money. We can refuse to sell players who don't really have a problem staying here but others there is no point of playing
3. David de gea was one of our best players, maybe if it wasn't for him we would have lost some of the games we won or Drew. There is nothing to suggest that he would affect his performance specially as it's the year before euro and he would want to play well to get into the squad. Di Maria doesn't have that motivation too.
4. All teams sell players even if they don't want to if the player is unhappy. Its just the matter of getting the valuation that we want. And there is nothing to suggest we are happy with a lower valuation.
So point is we don't want to sell. However if the player and his family are unhappy with the city, I really don't see the point of making him stay. They say a good worker is a happy worker. Same applies here too
RMC say talks haven't broken down but PSG are waiting to see whether we accept their €65m bid.
Please don't accept it.
What are we even paying mendes for ?
What are we even paying mendes for ?
yeah but i based it on di marias quotes and van gaals press conference. im not the only one who though di maria is off when i heard van gaal talk about him in the presser a few days back.
just exercising my right to not give a shit about what you enjoy
Except that Madrid have not said exactly that. They have put a price of 70 million Euros on Ramos, just like we may have done with both DDG and Di Maria. If both players want out and the buying club is willing to meet our demands, then we are better off letting them go and getting replacements who are actually committed to the cause.
did anyone from madrid say 70m euros in the press. no. only that hes not for sale and we are not letting him go. ramos is unhappy but hes an integral part of the team and world class player. we should be keeping our world class players and offering them assurances instead of letting them sulk and selling them because they are sulking if indeed thats the reason we are selling him.
Have you heard anything different from any official of United for either Di Maria or DDG? The best you had was LVG saying it is a process and that is it. Rest is all based on media coverage.
im talking abt di maria not de gea...and here is what van gaal said when asked abt whether di maria would stay ...
We shall see,"
"In football, it is a process. It's a process for Di Maria and Man Utd. We shall see.
"But he is still a member of United and he said he will come out on July 25.
doesnt sound like the responses given by him for de gea or by madrid for ramos.
when he said that im sure half the caf thought hes going out for sure.
If we really want to get back to our best then he has to take a wage cut imo, he's just a squad player.
Yes and that is what I have said. He said it is a process. Maybe they are trying to persuade him to stay. Maybe they have told PSG we won't sell. Maybe it is just LVG trolling us. I admit that he could have just said he is our player and will remain so, but he also mentioned that he will come to join the squad on July 25th. So he is expecting him not be sold till then. That was 8-9 days ago. That is a pretty long time for transfers to take place and LVG still sounded confident of having him with the squad. That does not look like someone who is willing to let his player go.
How are the two related? If he takes a wage cut, will that extra money be somehow the critical factor in us buying someone?
He's just had an amazing season, I think he'd feel extremely hard done by if he takes a wage cut. However, he is on £120k or something ridiculous.
How many players are they buying this window?
He said he'd take a wage cut if it meant him staying at the club. He wants to be here and he deserves to be rewarded for last season.
reasons why we shouldnt
1. ramos is unhappy. look at real handling that situation. di maria is a world class talent. the reason hes unhappy (by his own admission) is that hes not in the starting XI. let him fight for his place instead of selling him. why would he not try harder to make it into the starting XI rather than sulk on the pitch.
2. theres no reason to believe he cannot perform this coming season. his performances in copa america are enough evidence that hes still a great player. we dont need the money so a drop in value shouldnt worry us.
3. What about all the other players not playing in the euros. are they going to suck because they have no motivation. im sorry that doesnt make sense
4. Not the best teams. di maria just needs assurances. If he was so hell bent on leaving then why hasnt he submitted a transfer request yet and only thing we have heard from him is that he wants to stay and fight for his place?
5. you dont sell a world class 60m pound player of proven quality in under a year just because he hasnt adapted yet.
Unless we can get a Galactico level attacker, I'd want Ed to be all over this. Top, top, talent in my view.
Did he? Fair enough. Even if he took a 20-40k cut he'd be on more than a lot of players here.
thats all im trying to say. he didnt say what was necassary and gave an ambigous reply which would affect both the player and the fans negatively. it seems more likely from such a statment that we are open to the idea of selling him. anyway time will tell what happens. i hope we dont sell him.
You actually hold onto every statement which LVG makes? Why will it affect the player? You think he does not already know what is going on behind the scenes. Would you prefer he says all is hunky dory and then sells Di Maria the next day? My point is you are getting all twisted because of a single statement by LVG. If the club is fine with letting Di Maria go, then they must have someone lined up. Nothing that LVG says to the media changes anything.
Because he isn't good enough to be on a start XI CL winning side and by some miracle he was it was because the other 10 players carried him. So those wages are way too high for a squad player who is surplus to demand.
Where do people keep getting the idea tha di Maria wants to leave? If paper talk was true, we'd be the only team in the Premier League. As of now, the player has said he wants to stay...
im going by his statements made for dea gea vs his statements made for di maria. lvg words are a reflection of whats going on behind the scenes
why shouldnt it affect the player if the manager publically doesnt back him up and doesnt say that hes an integral part of the team and his transfer will not be discussed and insrtead says its a process
the club shouldnt be fine with letting di maria go is precisely my point (for the reasons ive mentioned in previous posts).
i think theres no end to this. so maybe you can have your opinion and i can have mine. we will see what happens.
Regardless of whether di Maria wants to go, we should want to keep him. And van Gaal, in that press conference, should have made it clear that we want di Maria to stay. He didnt which many believe was incorrect.
Is this aimed at me or those who believe he wants to leave?
It doesnt matter what he said to the media. He hates the media anyway. Its more important what he'll say to him in person in 2 days if he hasnt already.
Don't forget his wages on this current (first) contract with us included his signing-on bonus being paid over the length of his contract, so that will now have been paid meaning there will be a natural drop on what he will be on in the future.
Youre failing to see the point. He should have made it clear to the media that we want him to stay. The message is aimed at di Maria and not the media. Publically making it clear would do his confidence some good.
Lets say I dont agree, sure it would be nice if he said to the media but more important is to say it to him.
All this confidence stuff with ADM is becoming absurd. It seems like he's a touchy fellow and the club needs to be on their toes all the time not to put him down.
Apparently Bayern confirmed Vidal deal.
You have not answered my question. How is us getting back to our best related to him taking a pay cut?
As for the bolded part, I don't think you or I can judge what wage is deemed right for a squad player.
What LVG said was that it is a process. Maybe the club want to keep him but he is desperate to leave. The club would be willing to let him go if we can get an offer which we think is good for us. I don't understand what is wrong with that. As for LVG's statement about it being a process, that does not change anything. Even if he said we are not letting him go but the process is already underway, what difference would it have made?
So, it turns out that last summer's muppet dream was available this summer. Not saying we would have beaten Bayern to him but should we have tried to sign him instead of one of the two that we did?
The bold part makes no sense to me. It's a very easy point to understand. The club have already discussed the possibilities with Di Maria and I am absolutely sure he has been kept abreast of what is happening. You think he wakes up to see on TV what the manager thinks of him or what the situation is regarding his time at the club?
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