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Transfer Tweets - Manchester United - 2024/25
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Nik (@Rood) and Imran (@Annihilate Now!) discuss United's fantastic win away against Athletic Club in the semi-final of the Europa League.
They also pick out the positives of United's 4-3 loss away at Brentford, and Nik reviews a day out at Old Trafford watching Manchester United Women qualify for the Champions League.
Not at all what I’m saying. If you want me to explain simply, teams don’t need to splash massive transfer fees and wages, they can incrementally build a better squad with sensible signings who don’t cost the earth and build a better team. There is zero reasons why with good purchases United cannot emulate how Forrest are doing this season.I think most people would rather have have delap and another more experienced striker but we have to be somewhat realistic about the level of business we will do this summer
I'd guess 95% of our fans don't want that at all, going from everyone's comments on this and the Delap thread. Nearly everyone is of the same opinion, Delap would be fine to bring in to replace Hojlund if we had a more experienced striker as well, we don't, and the only reason people are coming around to the idea is because of the potential addition of Cunha too.
Newcastle have a settled strike force and midfield.
They hoarding talent like Delap for the League Cup is not a good thing.
Yeah I am definitely in that camp
Delap plus Watkins would be fantastic if some sort of Rashford deal can be done
Also massively unrealistic…
I’d prefer Delap plus Mateta, he’s more physical which is what we need two physical fast CFW’s so the two 10’s can play off them
Certainly more viable
Source (Tier 1):
- Arsenal are one of several other interested clubs.
- Release clause: €25m
- €5m increase if he plays for Spain
- €5m increase in the last 15 days of the transfer window
Tier 2:
- Betis want Antony on loan for all of next season as well under the same terms
- Reminder: Betis are covering 84% of Antony's United salary + bonuses
How about no? He would have a year left on his contract by the end of the loan which would drastically reduce his value (his performances for Betis should have boosted that by a fair bit this season). What’s it in for us? Find a permanent sale and be done with it.
Yea who knows if he is just having a purple patch right now. We must sell him as long as he is playing well.
Yes likewise. Love the idea of mateta here
Seems more likely we'll loan back to Betis with an obligation to buy at the end. I think at that point it wouldn't negatively impact PSR.
It wouldn't, but it would likely affect our raw transfer budget to buy a couple of additional players. Unless of course selling Rashford, Sancho, and one or two others covers that.
I think a loan with an (unconditional) obligation to buy at the end counts as a sale in PSR.
I'm only happy loaning him back if they cover 100% of his wages, cover in a loan fee his amortisation value for next season with a mandatory clause to sign him next summer, for the remainder of his amortisation value.
It does not. In fact, the only reason to do a loan with an unconditional obligation would be to get around PSR rules.
If the obligation kicked in on July 1, 2026, then it wouldn't count as a sale for PSR purposes until the first day of the 2026-2027 season.
That would be acceptable if as you suggest, there's zero money out of pocket for United next year. They cover his wages, amortization fee, and everything culminates in an obligation to buy for a reasonable number.
Another loan to Betis has No sense. You should include Antony in a deal with Jesus Rodriguez and Jonny Cardoso.
His amortisation charge for next year is about £16m, I'm not sure they'd be willing to pay that much (certainly not much beyond that anyway) to buy him permanently never mind for a loan with an obligation afterwards.
Not if Emery keeps on benching him
Could only see it if we sell Hojlund and win Europa
Loan fee followed by an obligation to buy would be decent, if despite the form he's in offers for him are not great
I'll get slated for saying this but I think we will come to regret a sale of Højlund. I genuienly don't see Delap as an upgrade. Other than carries and clearances in Delap's and passing in Hojlud's favor there isn't much of a difference. Delap isn't scoring goals for us this year if you had swapped them before the season. There's so little quality in terms of service into the striker here it's pathetic. We need a proper finished article number 9 and there's no reason to spend on another young striker to serve as understudy AND take a loss on Højlund. Delap is also currently overperforming his xg while Højlund is right in line with his xg. Delap this season per 90 npxG plus npxA is .4 and Højlund is .3 (rounded up). Not exactly an upgrade worth depleting limited financial resources.
I'd only loan Antony at the end of the window if we haven't gotten a decent sale over the line.
If we get Cunha then we have Bruno, Cunha, Amad, Mainoo, and then Mount and Zirkzee as options at the number 10s.
So, to me Cunha and a proper striker are key. Then use sales to fund the drastic improvement needed in the centre of midfield.
I'd only loan Antony at the end of the window if we haven't gotten a decent sale over the line.
If we get Cunha then we have Bruno, Cunha, Amad, Mainoo, and then Mount and Zirkzee as options at the number 10s.
So, to me Cunha and a proper striker are key. Then use sales to fund the drastic improvement needed in the centre of midfield.
Or the deal could be that they can have him for a cheaper price, if they pay a compensation fee to cancel Tottenham's first right option for Cardoso, and give him for free. Something like 25m plus Cardoso for Antony.
Can add Garnacho to that list as well unless he leaves this summer
I get what you are saying about wanting an experienced striker, however outside of Gyokeres the other options are considered too old in the case of Watkins and Mateta.
Athletico Madrid and Juventus are both interested and they can both pay €40m/£32m
Perfect
My worry with Delap is he has 12 in 32 in the league at a team where there is pretty much zero scrutiny and very little pressure.
Hojlund scored 10 in 30 in the league hast season with a massive transfer fee over his head and Haaland vs Hojlund nonsense the press was spewing.
I have massive doubts as to whether Delap to be our guy to lead the line for a few years knowing the flack he’ll get if and when he goes a few games without scoring.
I know Amorim isn’t a massive fan of big egos ruining the balance of a dressing room but I don’t think it’s a bad thing in a CF. We need a proven (for more than 1 season) goal scorer and someone who is obsessed with scoring like Evan used to be.
I’d pay whatever it took to sign Omishen, including selling Hojlund if we had to.
If we do sign Delap as only CF signing I think we’ll be kicking ourselves next year.
Hojlund scored 10 in 30 in the league hast season with a massive transfer fee over his head and Haaland vs Hojlund nonsense the press was spewing.
I have massive doubts as to whether Delap to be our guy to lead the line for a few years knowing the flack he’ll get if and when he goes a few games without scoring.
I know Amorim isn’t a massive fan of big egos ruining the balance of a dressing room but I don’t think it’s a bad thing in a CF. We need a proven (for more than 1 season) goal scorer and someone who is obsessed with scoring like Evan used to be.
I’d pay whatever it took to sign Omishen, including selling Hojlund if we had to.
If we do sign Delap as only CF signing I think we’ll be kicking ourselves next year.
We won't pay the wages that Saudi are offering
Good news, because we need to be busy.
They need to pay up. This is the best chance we will get to get a meaningful fee for Antony. We MUST take it.
I like Hojlund, I think he has all the traits to be a good ST, he showed he had potential last season, but this season he has decided to wrestle CBs, instead of running into space which is his best trait.
But when people mention XG and under or over performing, this doesn’t include how many times players make the wrong decision or for example him missing that tap in against Wolves last Sunday, which he didn’t anticipate until to late.
Delap has shown he has movement to cut in front of CBs as his goal against Villa showed, I am not saying he is going to be the next best thing, but I think he has shown enough.
I like Hojlund but I just think he has regressed and either a loan to reinvigorate himself or maybe a move out of the limelight, is the next best step for him.
Busy monitoring situations and preparing to prepare bids.
What an update.