Transfer Tweets - Manchester United - 2023/24

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No one drops 70m plus on a striker punt who has had one season in Italy, and even then didn't set the league on fire. Literally no one, barring us.

I'm accepting of us doing it under desperation, which this is. But don't harp on about Kane parallels, because it just doesn't fly. Who gives a feck if he was better than Kane at 20. Progression doesn't happen linearly, it's just a terrible flaw to hang your hat on.
BS post, Real Madrid dropped a fortune on a 16 year old. Van Nistelrooy wasn’t a proven striker either, but we took a punt on him.

According to you we should only buy proven players for high fees. Good you are not in charge, because then we could never catch up to Cheaty.
 
BS post, Real Madrid dropped a fortune on a 16 year old. Van Nistelrooy wasn’t a proven striker either, but we took a punt on him.

According to you we should only buy proven players for high fees. Good you are not in charge, because then we could never catch up to Cheaty.
fecking hell I've addressed this too many times now. Move on.
 
Am I reading these posts right?

Van nistelrooy was significantly more proven than the guy we have just bought. Not really anything against the kid but pretending that ruud wasn't already class is a very weird revision of the facts. The only gamble for ruud was his knee, everyone knew he was a ridiculously good striker.
 
Am I reading these posts right?

Van nistelrooy was significantly more proven than the guy we have just bought. Not really anything against the kid but pretending that ruud wasn't already class is a very weird revision of the facts. The only gamble for ruud was his knee, everyone knew he was a ridiculously good striker.
He was lighting up the Eredivisie, hardly a proven striker. I remember a certain Brazilian striker scoring 30+ goals in Holland flopping in PL.
 
Why don't you wait until he's played a few games before getting so upset though?
It's a forum. I'll support him and hope he plays well, but what is the point in having a thread about a new signing where you're not actually allowed to discuss what the player's good at, what their expectations should be, how it impacts us going forward, etc? Let's be real, most of the people overjoyed and screaming at others for being negative probably haven't actually watched him play outside of compilation videos that only show his strengths. Most of the Danish posters who would have watched his games for Denmark and Kobenhaven, who will obviously want him to do well here, have reacted positively about him joining but while also being a bit realistic and saying they're unsure if he's ready for Utd.

Tbf plenty of those negative about the deal probably also haven't seen him play. I'm just saying, based on when I've watched him, he has a lot of flaws. The reason I'm upset is because it could potentially cost us a CL place if it goes badly wrong, which would be really bad for us going forward. Not Hojlund's fault, but I'm also a bit concerned with how Rashford ended last season and how he's looked in pre-season, considering he was our only major source of goals last season and if we lose 10 of his goals we're suddenly in pretty deep shit. I was also hoping we could mount a title challenge a couple months ago when Kane seemed a possibility, so to realise we're probably actually going backwards this season (in terms of league position) is a bit frustrating.

Same as Mount, I'll be hoping they prove me wrong. And just to clarify, I am delighted with the Onana signing, so it's not like I want to be negative just for the sake of it.
 
It’s weird with transfers for me, especially with young or players not established by the majority.

There’s always going to be an element of the unknown with all transfers regardless, and especially where your dealing with potential. Most people use hindsight to confirm their biases when there’s risk regardless and it’s whether you think they player is worth it.

A player with the characteristics of Hojlund is what we need in my opinion and has the potential to justify the fee over the course of his contract. Let’s give him a chance then he can be assessed.
 
You're making feck all sense. Spending well is vital, saying don't worry about the money is just absolutely daft when you consider how poorly run we have been in the transfer market over the past decades.

I'm praying Hojlund works out but anyone claiming it's not overpayment is just burying their heads in their sand. It's quite nuts how unwilling some posters are to acknowledge that.
You want to spend well in today's reality, then forget about Muani, Kane and Hojlund. You start season with Martial and Sancho in attack and a cheap striker on loan. That's the logic, that will lead us to usual results, while opponents pay way more for some players, who aren't even world class just yet, and on top of that they're making additional purchase.

Can't you see, that this whole Hojlund deal is a proof, in your face, that money isn't exactly a problem for United, and all main targets for the summer can be reached ?

You pray if Hojlund works out ? I'm praying Hojlund won't be injured or suspended, because then we have to reach for our striker bench options. Perhaps then I will start praying, because I'll have way better reason, than a huge club like United spending their own money, on things they need.

How do you even make everday shopping, when you know market rules and inflation are caused not by you, but other factors, like pandemic, geopolitical shift, war for territory, war on resources etc. Do you stand in line in your local shop, and tell everybody how daft their thinking is, while buying same products for the same inflated prices ?

Klopp is rebuilding his team twice, in 5 years, and didn't look remotely worried after overkill spending on Darwin. We possibly need a backup striker option, to secure good results, in case of complications, and that's the way of thinking I'm getting behind.

Be worried, I'm not stopping you, bang on your money subject, like it's religion, and when Hojlund will turn 25, his fee to United will probably mean nothing. In 5 years Chelsea will break their own records multiple times, and £88.5m Mudryk could be a grounded in reality sum for player with potential.
 
No one drops 70m plus on a striker punt who has had one season in Italy, and even then didn't set the league on fire. Literally no one, barring us.

I'm accepting of us doing it under desperation, which this is. But don't harp on about Kane parallels, because it just doesn't fly. Who gives a feck if he was better than Kane at 20. Progression doesn't happen linearly, it's just a terrible flaw to hang your hat on.


The thing is all you know of this player is what his Wikipedia page says. You assume this formed the whole basis of our bid?

Watching, scouting, observing, tracking, analysing means nothing because frankly you've looked him up on Google and you're not impressed?
 
Says who?

I bet he doesn't.

Bayern are after him & they are famous for not paying big bucks when it comes to wages, so I'm sure they won't pay Kane anymore than £300k PW.

I don’t care what you bet or what you guess.

The BBC said he wants £575k per week.

It’s posted in the Kane thread. Go do your own research.
 
Have you? What is your idea of spending well? I’ve not seen you suggest better options.
You want to spend well in today's reality, then forget about Muani, Kane and Hojlund. You start season with Martial and Sancho in attack and a cheap striker on loan. That's the logic, that will lead us to usual results, while opponents pay way more for some players, who aren't even world class just yet, and on top of that they're making additional purchase.

Can't you see, that this whole Hojlund deal is a proof, in your face, that money isn't exactly a problem for United, and all main targets for the summer can be reached ?

You pray if Hojlund works out ? I'm praying Hojlund won't be injured or suspended, because then we have to reach for our striker bench options. Perhaps then I will start praying, because I'll have way better reason, than a huge club like United spending their own money, on things they need.

How do you even make everday shopping, when you know market rules and inflation are caused not by you, but other factors, like pandemic, geopolitical shift, war for territory, war on resources etc. Do you stand in line in your local shop, and tell everybody how daft their thinking is, while buying same products for the same inflated prices ?

Klopp is rebuilding his team twice, in 5 years, and didn't look remotely worried after overkill spending on Darwin. We possibly need a backup striker option, to secure good results, in case of complications, and that's the way of thinking I'm getting behind.

Be worried, I'm not stopping you, bang on your money subject, like it's religion, and when Hojlund will turn 25, his fee to United will probably mean nothing. In 5 years Chelsea will break their own records multiple times, and £88.5m Mudryk could be a grounded in reality sum for player with potential.
The thing is all you know of this player is what his Wikipedia page says. You assume this formed the whole basis of our bid?

Watching, scouting, observing, tracking, analysing means nothing because frankly you've looked him up on Google and you're not impressed?
Ive actually gone round in circles with presumptuous posts like this and won't waste my time further.

I like Hojlund, he's not worth 70m and I called that out. There's nothing unreasonable about my view and it's actually bizarre how some posters are so sensitive they want to go down a rabbit hole of loosely related topics and forget what they're actually arguing about.

I have given many alternatives in previous weeks and I'm not going to waste time to repeat them to you.

At this stage I want to draw a line and actually enjoy the signing, and not debate with posters who are evidently lost on what they are actually debating.
 
That word is a ‘big’ one and is doing a lot of lifting here…… I hope you are right.

Another big if.
Just have Martial vibes is all. Exciting young prospect comes in for huge cost and fails to deliver for whatever reason. Wouldn’t be the first time.
We really need a sure thing after Weghorst, CR, Cavani, Ibra, Ighalo et Al. £72m would go along way to securing one.
Who?
kane is too much, so this person does not exist
 
Barely any tweets for the last 4 pages here. Take the moaning to the right threads ffs
 
It's a forum. I'll support him and hope he plays well, but what is the point in having a thread about a new signing where you're not actually allowed to discuss what the player's good at, what their expectations should be, how it impacts us going forward, etc? Let's be real, most of the people overjoyed and screaming at others for being negative probably haven't actually watched him play outside of compilation videos that only show his strengths. Most of the Danish posters who would have watched his games for Denmark and Kobenhaven, who will obviously want him to do well here, have reacted positively about him joining but while also being a bit realistic and saying they're unsure if he's ready for Utd.

Tbf plenty of those negative about the deal probably also haven't seen him play. I'm just saying, based on when I've watched him, he has a lot of flaws. The reason I'm upset is because it could potentially cost us a CL place if it goes badly wrong, which would be really bad for us going forward. Not Hojlund's fault, but I'm also a bit concerned with how Rashford ended last season and how he's looked in pre-season, considering he was our only major source of goals last season and if we lose 10 of his goals we're suddenly in pretty deep shit. I was also hoping we could mount a title challenge a couple months ago when Kane seemed a possibility, so to realise we're probably actually going backwards this season (in terms of league position) is a bit frustrating.

Same as Mount, I'll be hoping they prove me wrong. And just to clarify, I am delighted with the Onana signing, so it's not like I want to be negative just for the sake of it.
Ah…the old guilty until proven innocent argument. Courageous.
 
Ive actually gone round in circles with presumptuous posts like this and won't waste my time further.

I like Hojlund, he's not worth 70m and I called that out. There's nothing unreasonable about my view and it's actually bizarre how some posters are so sensitive they want to go down a rabbit hole of loosely related topics and forget what they're actually arguing about.

I have given many alternatives in previous weeks and I'm not going to waste time to repeat them to you.

At this stage I want to draw a line and actually enjoy the signing, and not debate with posters who are evidently lost on what they are actually debating.
Yeah, run away. You called out the most obvious thing on the planet right now, which is inflated price. Go get your medal.

Just don't come here to post the money stuff and actually try to enjoy the actual football, like you promised. You can also tell your moaning buddies to do the same.

Barely any tweets for the last 4 pages here. Take the moaning to the right threads ffs
Post the f*ckin tweet then, if you have one.
 
I don't see Bayern paying 575k, more like 350-400k.

Does sound like it will be heavily structured, perhaps bonuses can take him there. It's an interesting transfer for the high fee with a year left, what wages he could get and his age and how it would be based on targets, Bayern will be sensible and pressuring as possible I'm sure. What kind of buyback could be in with Spurs should they want to.
 
Moaning about the price and hiding behind cheaper/more proven alternatives without naming them.

I think they all have been debated and Hojland comes out looking good.
 
I really like Højlund and think he can be an excellent striker, but he's not worth €70m, therefore I have a resounding urge to moan all over the forum to express my dissatisfaction over this transfer. I know deep inside that if we had spent another month negotiating over him, we could have saved another €8.234m which could potentially be used for a back-up player that we're interested in signing 6 years from now. Absolute trash negotiators! I'd much rather we spent €31m on El Bilal Tourè who was Højlund's replacement, because, despite having much less potential than Højlund, he only cost half the price! Being an amateur accountant, the fee is very important to me!

Get a fecking grip.
 
Even at cursory glance, he's a different character -on the pitch and i suspect off it also - to Martial. Of course he might develop injury-proneness, but rawness will be more of a 'risk' than
lackadaisical pressing or refusal to proactively engage in build-up play unless it's directly played into him, or failure to find scoring positions in the box or any of Martial's other intermittent faults and tendencies...

Like I mentioned elsewhere (along with various other posters), not sure who this 'sure-bet' is that people overly sceptical about this transfer would rather we signed. Even if Levy were to let Kane come to us, when and at what hugely inflated cost, Ramos has red flags over him (power and pace, his own build-up play, frequently ranked 'lower' in potential/ability than Nunez by Benfica fans posting here/on the net), Muani isn't even (primarily) a CF and has a good but not spectacular scoring record in a league we've traditionally not bought well from; Ligue Une is a 2nd tier league overall and someone like Jonathan David is a decent finisher but has question marks over his ability to lead the line in the way we need against CL level defenders (I'd take him but as a backup striker if we had the funds) etc.
We’ve been linked to Abraham, Watkins and Toney who are all PL experienced. Personally I’d look at Bowen from WH too. Vlahovic and Osimhen could be explored too. There are options out there, what people think of them is just opinion. Are we really sure Hojlund is the absolute best option for the money?
 
Delighted he's in, can't wait to see him in action. He seems like a good guy, down to earth, likeable, ego free and only wants to play for United. I think he'll do great. 3 really important additions for us thus far, I think we've done a great job in a very difficult market.
 
We could have negotiated the price with spurs a bur but yeah those wage demands are insane. Interesting to see if that's what he demands from Bayern too.
He will, and he'll get it (or something close). Bayern have historically fewer compunctions about wages compared to paying huge transfer fees, so the bigger obstacle is likely to be Levy's floor price for a player with 1 year left, aged 30 etc.
 
We’ve been linked to Abraham, Watkins and Toney who are all PL experienced. Personally I’d look at Bowen from WH too. Vlahovic and Osimhen could be explored too. There are options out there, what people think of them is just opinion. Are we really sure Hojlund is the absolute best option for the money?

With signings, you're rarely sure of anything. I know this is a crazy idea but maybe the best thing is to watch them play.
 
Delighted he's in, can't wait to see him in action. He seems like a good guy, down to earth, likeable, ego free and only wants to play for United. I think he'll do great. 3 really important additions for us thus far, I think we've done a great job in a very difficult market.

This blind optimism is ridiculous. Have you not seen how bad his haircut is? Not to mention that travesty Onana is currently sporting atop his noggin.
 
Yeah, run away. You called out the most obvious thing on the planet right now, which is inflated price. Go get your medal.

Just don't come here to post the money stuff and actually try to enjoy the actual football, like you promised. You can also tell your moaning buddies to do the same.


Post the f*ckin tweet then, if you have one.
:lol: Are you 14?
 
We’ve been linked to Abraham, Watkins and Toney who are all PL experienced. Personally I’d look at Bowen from WH too. Vlahovic and Osimhen could be explored too. There are options out there, what people think of them is just opinion. Are we really sure Hojlund is the absolute best option for the money?
You think Bowen's a substitute for a CF? I'd trust Abraham less as a finisher than this guy, both 'eye test' and xg wise. Watkins will be closer to 100m; Villa have no incentive to sell whatsoever. Toney is OOA for 6 months and again will be pushing 75-80m. Osimhen will be wildly expensive; just because Italian clubs aren't spending as much as the rest of Europe, you still have presidents turning down huge offers (SMSavic at Lazio a couple of years ago had 120m offer turned down for him; Napoli have stated that their top two players won't go for less than 150m). Vlahovic had one unequivocally good season and otherwise has also been extremely spotty - he was definitely worth considering as an option, but would have cost at least the same and with questions about his own play/reliability.

There just isn't this kind of clearcut alternative, unless you're City or Madrid, need a striker, and can pay, basically no questions asked - even if you've spent your ostensible summer transfer budget - and so go for Kane; Madrid are only out of Kane race right now because of Mbappe situation. We have spent a lot, and often not well which doesn't help, but they're differing realities.
 
We could have negotiated the price with spurs a bur but yeah those wage demands are insane. Interesting to see if that's what he demands from Bayern too.
Yeah, can that really be legit?

Kane's stupid brother negotiated a very unimpressive £200k a week in 2018, coming off plenty of world class seasons, I doubt they make this sort of demand, unless they politely wanted to avoid saying "not interested".

Buying Kane for £100 million and paying him £500k a week for five years would amount to a combined package of £230 million (£130 million in wages) - even the most pro-Kane'ers would acknowledge the absurdity of paying that, even if we had the money, which we clearly don't.
 
We’ve been linked to Abraham, Watkins and Toney who are all PL experienced. Personally I’d look at Bowen from WH too. Vlahovic and Osimhen could be explored too. There are options out there, what people think of them is just opinion. Are we really sure Hojlund is the absolute best option for the money?

I'd say Hojlund has a higher ceiling than any of those you listed (maybe bar Oshimen), although likely not on the level of some of them yet either.
 
Enzo was a stone cold sure hit. Hojlund is not.

What do you define as a stone cold sure hit though? And do we include the ridiculous price tag too in that evaluation? Because IMO the jury is still out on him. I've watched probably every Chelsea game last season and he wasn't spectacular for that amount of money. Yes, he was their best midfielder but the rest were absolute garbage so it doesn't say that much. I'd rather pay 75m for a striker prospect than 110m for a CDM, who alledgedly is an amazing box to box yet I haven't seen it in the Prem. I wouldn't classify him as a stone cold sure hit at all.
 
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