devil in me
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Garner isn't good enough to be a regular player for us. We can't keep him just because McT and Fred are crap. If we can get 15M for him it will be good business.
Exactly this.Garner isn't good enough to be a regular player for us. We can't keep him just because McT and Fred are crap. If we can get 15M for him it will be good business.
We’ve given plenty of opportunities to our academy guys but at the moment, they’re really not making us look good. Rashford looks totally disinterested, Lingard was disruptive, Henderson is disruptive, Pogba didn’t give a feck, McTominay looks very limited and the less said about Greenwood, the better. These are the players who should technically be playing their bollocks off for us and not going behind our back being disruptive.
We don’t produce gold every year. Forget the early 90s breakthrough of half a dozen players from our academy. That’s a one off. That’s like winning the Euromillions jackpot. A lot of these boys disappear off the face of the earth after they leave their teenage years behind.
Its a huge risk to give Garner a new multi year contract based on him doing well in the Championship. His stock is reasonably high. He looks comfortable in the Championship and he was a key part of a team that got promoted, so there’s an uncertainty whether he’s good enough at Premier League level… The key part is there’s a huge difference between being a promoted PL team who could easily go back down and an established elite tier PL team. If we play him a small handful of times, you might get away with it in terms of harming his worth. If he looks out of depth after a full season with us, then the value goes down and if hes tied up in a nice juicy contract, then we’ve shot ourselves in the foot. We’re basically hoping he gets better because the teams that are more of his level cannot afford those wages, and the fashionable thing now is to run down your contract so he could leave for free and we’d have missed out on £20m that could have gone to buying someone.
We have to get better at this area. Look at Liverpool and how they handled Brewster.
This is what we should be doing for all the players that are good enough to play in the PL but not good enough yet to be United players. If they do well we buy back, if not we have made a profit.Garner is an excellent choice for "sell him but put in a buy-back clause".
Great message from the club. Shows that you can go out on loan, perform great and it still doesn't matter, you won't get any chance in the team, even when the starters have been absolutely atrocious. The idea that the club would need to raise funds after £50m net spend when they hadn't even bothered spending a penny last January is ludicrous.
It's nauseating to see how many posters are okay with this too.
So much for club values.
Because Rabiot can likely help us straight away. Garner has done well in the Championship, we don't know how this will translate to the PL. If we insert a buy back clause, this is best for all parties involved.We’re selling a youth player who did well on loan and not given a chance in the first team to purchase Rabiot. Club values have long been gone.
Garner isn't good enough to be a regular player for us. We can't keep him just because McT and Fred are crap. If we can get 15M for him it will be good business.
We’re selling a youth player who did well on loan and not given a chance in the first team to purchase Rabiot. Club values have long been gone.
Until replacements are in place, that's a non-starter.
Garner isn't good enough to be a regular player for us. We can't keep him just because McT and Fred are crap. If we can get 15M for him it will be good business.
They do, but the difference is they almost always have better options already in the first teams. We don’t. And we are desperately short of options as it is. One or two injured mids in a period when we have 2 games a week every week and we will be up shit creekWrong message? As in if you’re not good enough we’ll sell you? City, Chelsea, Liverpool etc etc etc do the same thing repeatedly, so what message should our younger players be getting?
If his fee is used to buy someone better, then it’s good.
Huh? Should we not sell players for low fees because better alternatives would cost more?Can't wait to see the superstar we bring in for £15m
It's because those two are so bad. If they were good, James could get plenty of minutes because a competent midfield we wouldn't be in such a mess.Garner isn't good enough to be a regular player for us. We can't keep him just because McT and Fred are crap. If we can get 15M for him it will be good business.
Rabiot played for PSG, for Juventus and for France - not a surprise that he will be above Garner in the pecking orderWe’re selling a youth player who did well on loan and not given a chance in the first team to purchase Rabiot.
Ten Hag may well prefer Savage and Iqbal as his back ups. Or maybe he’s demanded to be play, who knows. But I’m not against his sale if it brings in a upgrade for midfield.They do, but the difference is they almost always have better options already in the first teams. We don’t. And we are desperately short of options as it is. One or two injured mids in a period when we have 2 games a week every week and we will be up shit creek
Ten Hag may well prefer Savage and Iqbal as his back ups. Or maybe he’s demanded to be play, who knows. But I’m not against his sale if it brings in a upgrade for midfield.
Are people genuinely arguing Rabiot isn’t better than Garner? feck me sideways.
I have no idea what this point is in support of. Garner isn’t McFred. And Rabiot isn’t Donny. Garner is currently behind Fred, Mctominay, Eriksen and DVB in the pecking order. He’s 5th choice in a midfield we want to add two players too. Get some funds, get him PL football and stick a buy back in.Donny was meant to be miles better than Mcfred too. Remember that?
He is, it’s just the three of them aren’t good enough.Donny was meant to be miles better than Mcfred too. Remember that?
He is, it’s just the three of them aren’t good enough.
Yes. Even then McFred have only started 1 game under Ten Hag and that seems it be it for them.Miles better but 3 managers now not picking him including his former boss?
Panic stations. Agains smacks of no plan. If we had a plan we would have taken 15 million from forest months ago.Strange timing to suddenly sell him now
Would Leeds see him as a replacement for Phillips or have they already done that.So Garner is good enough for Spurs... but not bottom of the table united. Right then. Nothing wrong here
They already bought Tyler Adams from RB Leipzig to replace Kalvin Phillips. Garner's probably going to become either one of their B2B midfielders positioned ahead of Adams or a backup to him.Would Leeds see him as a replacement for Phillips or have they already done that.
They brought Tyler Adams in from RB who is getting good write ups.Would Leeds see him as a replacement for Phillips or have they already done that.
Panic stations. Agains smacks of no plan. If we had a plan we would have taken 15 million from forest months ago.