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I didn't say that at all ye wally. I literally just said we are a shitshow and were badly run under Woodward/Judge. Is any of that wrong? Does any of that suggest we are the worst run club bar none? You come across as a bit touchy.

And besides, are we not the worst run big club in England (that doesn't mean other clubs can't also be badly run before you say ote)? What do we have to show for our £1bn spend over the past 10 years? In the same time Chelsea have league titles and a CL. Hell, Werner and Ziyech each have a CL medal at Chelsea. Us being a circus doesn't Chelsea aren't also a bit shoddy and I didn't say anything contrary to that.

Chelsea have had an owner who has self absorbed the messes they have made by taking 1.6bn of debt on. United haven’t. That’s the difference.

I’m not touchy just pointing out that other clubs must also be a ‘shit show’ if that’s the yardstick you’re measuring them by.
 
We’ve agreed a large fee for De Jong taking us well over that number - whether we sign him or not the money is there. It was laughable then and remains the same today.
If we agreed the de Jong deal then there wouldn’t be any more reinforcements after him imo. Now it looks as if we aren’t signing him then sales will finance a striker and maybe a RB instead of paying off de Jong fee.
The striker option (kid from Austria?) has only popped up over the last week for a clear reason that’s apparent this morning
 
Chelsea have had an owner who has self absorbed the messes they have made by taking 1.6bn of debt on. United haven’t. That’s the difference.

I’m not touchy just pointing out that other clubs must also be a ‘shit show’ if that’s the yardstick you’re measuring them by.
That's sort of the point. Chelsea might be badly run but they can absorb some of the mess and still compete and win stuff. We have owners that limit us, therefore our shitshow is much more pronounced. We don't help ourselves, though. No one made us give Phil Jones, Bailly, Dean Henderson, Telles etc. silly contracts. Our squad building has been diabolical and one of the main reasons as to why we are in this mess. It's depressing and feels increasingly relentless.
 
I know which I'd believe, the one where the Glazers save cash.





I think "we were in for De Jong" but that we wouldn't go for a lesser alterative suits the narrative that there was cash available. When in reality it may not have been. We are being gaslit by these owners.


I wonder how many years posters are going to come on here and literally pretend that we refuse to spend money. We have several failings, our owners are not perfect, but this nonsense narrative can be disproven quite quickly, and surely has been numerous times.
 
I know which I'd believe, the one where the Glazers save cash.





I think "we were in for De Jong" but that we wouldn't go for a lesser alterative suits the narrative that there was cash available. When in reality it may not have been. We are being gaslit by these owners.

We have spent by far the most for the least. So I'm not sure why you're obsessed with this Glazers not spending narrative.
 


People laughed at this tweet.

Because it's bollocks.

We have already spent what, 60/70 Million? FdJ (looking unlikely now) would have been another 70/80. We also have strong links to Sesko (30 million maybe?). That's a decent outlay with very little coming in. Most of the transfers out are looking like loan moves.

We have almost a month left of the window still to play out so time will tell.
 
Because it's bollocks.

We have already spent what, 60/70 Million? FdJ (looking unlikely now) would have been another 70/80. We also have strong links to Sesko (30 million maybe?). That's a decent outlay with very little coming in. Most of the transfers out are looking like loan moves.

We have almost a month left of the window still to play out so time will tell.
Believe it when I see it.
 
That's sort of the point. Chelsea might be badly run but they can absorb some of the mess and still compete and win stuff. We have owners that limit us, therefore our shitshow is much more pronounced. We don't help ourselves, though. No one made us give Phil Jones, Bailly, Dean Henderson, Telles etc. silly contracts. Our squad building has been diabolical and one of the main reasons as to why we are in this mess. It's depressing and feels increasingly relentless.

Essentially a decade of bad decisions cannot be corrected in one or two windows. The Glazers have spent a ton of money badly without massively improving the quality of the squad.
 
Because it's bollocks.

We have already spent what, 60/70 Million? FdJ (looking unlikely now) would have been another 70/80. We also have strong links to Sesko (30 million maybe?). That's a decent outlay with very little coming in. Most of the transfers out are looking like loan moves.

We have almost a month left of the window still to play out so time will tell.
But the striker links have only come recently after De Jong has dragged on. The timing tells us everything.
Imo the sales fund de Jong and we keep Ronaldo. Fail to get de Jong and we sell Ronaldo and bring in a striker. I’m sure the Antony rumours will intensify as soon as De Jong holds up a Chelsea shirt
 
But the striker links have only come recently after De Jong has dragged on. The timing tells us everything.
Imo the sales fund de Jong and we keep Ronaldo. Fail to get de Jong and we sell Ronaldo and bring in a striker. I’m sure the Antony rumours will intensify as soon as De Jong holds up a Chelsea shirt
The Sesko links are surely down to the uncertainty around Ronaldo, who I think will still be here because nobody else wants him, but I hope we still bring him in as he looks like a real talent. I'm not sure our outgoings will generate enough money to have paid for FdJ, we are terrible at selling players for decent money. We still need a DCM and hopefully will move onto the next on the list if/when FdJ rejects us.
 
Can't shift deadwood permanently because of the stupid wages we give average players...

Yeah Toy Story puppet and his sidekick are fully to blame for us having to do loan deals, expect exactly the same situation with AWB too and wonder why we can't get money.
 
We literally spent more than £50m alone on Martinez. £13m for Malacia and £70m budgeted on De Jong, which takes us to £133m minimum.
We recouped Malacia money with Pereira sale and loans for Dean and a couple youngsters, more or less (may add Telles loan here too).

so it’s just Martinez now
 
We recouped Malacia money with Pereira sale and loans for Dean and a couple youngsters, more or less (may add Telles loan here too).

so it’s just Martinez now

But the De Jong money has definitely been budgeted for too, even if we don't get him.
 
Oh shit. Clearly didn't give his consent then. Have to say I did think they had probably agreed they could leave early in advance. Ronaldo leaving is really shitty then but wtf was Dalot doing? Didn't he leave early too? ETH has clearly favoured him so far.
He's referring to a few players that left before the end not just Ronaldo. Although the main issue people had was Ronaldo leaving early.
 
Essentially a decade of bad decisions cannot be corrected in one or two windows. The Glazers have spent a ton of money badly without massively improving the quality of the squad.
No one is saying they expect the problem to be sorted in one window. Who the hell suggested that?! That doesn't mean the likes of Tuanzebe, Bailly, Brandon Williams, Phil Jones etc shouldn't be made to find new clubs as they are surplus to requirements. It's damaging to have so much deadwood around the place, with the players not all pulling in the same direction. Our inability to sell the likes of Lingard and Dean Henderson while their price is high directly impacts the amount we can spend and who we can bring in.
 
No one is saying they expect the problem to be sorted in one window. Who the hell suggested that?! That doesn't mean the likes of Tuanzebe, Bailly, Brandon Williams, Phil Jones etc shouldn't be made to find new clubs as they are surplus to requirements. It's damaging to have so much deadwood around the place, with the players not all pulling in the same direction. Our inability to sell the likes of Lingard and Dean Henderson while their price is high directly impacts the amount we can spend and who we can bring in.

The tone of this thread is very doom and gloom. I am suggesting that we should give them time.

It’s hard to move out of form players on massive wages, even very talented players, which the ones listed above are not. The prior regime (front office) put us in this predicament and time will tell if our current front office has the ingenuity and nounce to get us out of it. They must know the above listed players need to be sold but it takes two to tango and outside of loans I haven’t seen a whole lot of interest for our surplus players.

Edit: how have Arsenal and Spurs done offloading their overpaid surplus? About the same as us.
 
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How much do you think we are going to make in sales? My estimate is not a lot! Most of the players will leave on loan, just my guess, with a little loan fee.

Yeah we could definitely have sold these players for money if that clown Judge hadn't been in charge of contracts
 
We appear to have been bad at sales for years. It really is an income stream that needs looking at in the future.

Yeah only one we really did well on was James, other than that has been very poor
 
It's not so much that we have been poor in sales, more so that we have given contracts to players that punch above our table position in recent years. It's hard when you pay a wage that you feel fits a person competing for titles and then trying to sell them when you realise they aren't capable of that.

Belief player will work out = Signing + High Wages

Poor form = Not working out

High Wages + Poor form = Nobody wants to buy that will be able to afford the wages.

We need to do a Barcelona (not including the levers) and start signing players who want to play for us at lower wages, and only pay them bigger wages when they prove themselves. Easiest way to do this is to stop trying to buy massive names in football and start looking at players who have two or less years on their contract, low wages and solid potential. Pay them decent wages, hope for the best.
 
This is a re-upload I believe - this video is a week or so old if I remember correctly?
No he just tends to repeat himself a lot. News on De Jong is what he said last week along with telling us again that he knows loads of people at Barca and United.

The interesting bit was the news about definitely being on for a striker with tallies with the Sesko talk this week.
 
Sometimes things not that complicated if we use common sence and collect the info and deduce the problem.

We should not get too concern with tweets every ten mins and have our sway all the time. As a whloe, we know that Barca wants him out due but cant go to him and say it out loud because they dont want to him his due money. Fdj albeit that he wants to stay, facing the reality of having to leave but cant say or spill anything out (about his approval to come to UTD/other clubs) because that would jeopardiae his power to get his money.

Both parties are in a who-blink-first-who-lose. We will have to wait until the finale as in next week to know the reault and i think Barca will have to up their offer to Fdj to near his full money as they cant afford him to stay re the registering of players issue.
 
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