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mazhar13 said:
Yeah, I see it the same way. Unless a club comes in with a mouth-watering package, I don't see Dortmund selling Haaland this summer. He'll be needed to help Dortmund qualify for the CL again whilst having Rose settle in and establish himself.
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Let's hope Tuchel doesn't have any dirty photo of Dortmund director to blackmail them into selling Haaland.

On serious note, IIRC Dortmund is interested in Hudson Odoi. Chelsea and Dortmund seem to get along. Chelsea let Dortmund loan Batsuyi when they forced to sell Aubameyang. Pulisic transfer to Chelsea go very smoothly without much disruption. So I see Chelsea would bent backward for Dortmund to compensate if they really make this deal happen.
 
mazhar13 said:
Nizaar Kinsela (of Goal) has good links to Chelsea, and he ruled out a Hudson-Odoi transfer to Dortmund for this summer.
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Kudo.

Still hear another wave of rumor doing the round, even as of today.
 
spaceboyRSA said:
Most players surely accept that they will eventually have to lower wage demands as they get older. It’s the nature of the game- Ronaldo surely knows that. His bargaining power in terms of contract value decreases with each month that passes.
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Ronaldo is a special case because he generates a lot of money just by being Ronaldo.
 
TsuWave said:
Ronaldo is a special case because he generates a lot of money just by being Ronaldo.
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And eventually that will slow down. He’s closer to 40 than he is to 30. Plus we are in COVID times.

I’m not saying he won’t be on big money, but I wouldn’t be surprised if his next contract is less than his current one
 
mazhar13 said:
Yeah, I see it the same way. Unless a club comes in with a mouth-watering package, I don't see Dortmund selling Haaland this summer. He'll be needed to help Dortmund qualify for the CL again whilst having Rose settle in and establish himself.
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That’d be one way of tempting him to move, I’m on my way to Old Trafford right now! :lol: :lol:
 
Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:
Yeah I'm not expecting a dollar for dollar match but certainly it has to lend itself to a bit of inflation on the player's value. Why else would you put that large of a clause in for a soon to be 33 year old?
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As a rule, I think release clauses are put so high to retain control and almost ensure a buying club can't force a sale (Neymar an exception?)

If you put it anywhere near real value, a buying club/player can push through a sale as Spanish law allows it once the player deposits the amount with La Liga.

Sure theres some accountancy stuff in there too.
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
As a rule, I think release clauses are put so high to retain control and almost ensure a buying club can't force a sale (Neymar an exception?)

If you put it anywhere near real value, a buying club/player can push through a sale as Spanish law allows it once the player deposits the amount with La Liga.

Sure theres some accountancy stuff in there too.
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But who's going to come calling for Aguero this summer or even next? This just looks sketchy to me.
 
Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:
Yeah I'm not expecting a dollar for dollar match but certainly it has to lend itself to a bit of inflation on the player's value. Why else would you put that large of a clause in for a soon to be 33 year old?
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Players are employees, and as such are not assets that can be put on the balance sheet. However, player’s registration rights - which generate revenue through performance and marketing - are classified as an intangible asset under the IFRS standard. As such the intangible asset on the balance sheet is the acquisition cost of the player plus any intermediary fees (agents). These can only be on the balance sheet for the duration of the initial contract, and are consequently depreciated in a straight line manner over the contract duration. I.e. If a player can 60m plus 20m in agent fees, and signs on a 4 year contract, then at year 0, 80m goes on the balance sheet. Then each year for 4 years the club can depreciate 20m of the asset until it is fully depreciated off the balance sheet of the club. This has tax advantages.

Aguero’s impact on the balance sheet will just be the cost of his registration, probably just agent fees. The release clause has zero impact and no basis under the IFRS framework.
 
Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:
But who's going to come calling for Aguero this summer or even next? This just looks sketchy to me.
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Say he has a release clause of £30m and sticks 15 goals in by Christmas and a Chinese or US or Middle East club offer him silly wages... he might take it?

With high release clauses, the selling club loses a player they may have wanted to keep BUT get a silly transfer price, to offset the loss.
 
theklr said:
What? They are required by LaLiga rules to have one.
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A release clause yes. A 100M release clause for a 33 year old striker is what seems sketchy to me.

Posh Red said:
Every player has one in La Liga and they are very often way above the players market value
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I know this but this is 5x Aguero's market value (and he moved on a free).

simonhch said:
Players are employees, and as such are not assets that can be put on the balance sheet. However, player’s registration rights - which generate revenue through performance and marketing - are classified as an intangible asset under the IFRS standard. As such the intangible asset on the balance sheet is the acquisition cost of the player plus any intermediary fees (agents). These can only be on the balance sheet for the duration of the initial contract, and are consequently depreciated in a straight line manner over the contract duration. I.e. If a player can 60m plus 20m in agent fees, and signs on a 4 year contract, then at year 0, 80m goes on the balance sheet. Then each year for 4 years the club can depreciate 20m of the asset until it is fully depreciated off the balance sheet of the club. This has tax advantages.

Aguero’s impact on the balance sheet will just be the cost of his registration, probably just agent fees. The release clause has zero impact and no basis under the IFRS framework.
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Thanks simon, at least you have been helpful here. You don't see anything sketchy in that release clause?

BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
Say he has a release clause of £30m and sticks 15 goals in by Christmas and a Chinese or US or Middle East club offer him silly wages... he might take it?

With high release clauses, the selling club loses a player they may have wanted to keep BUT get a silly transfer price, to offset the loss.
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Still seems sketchy to me. He's cost them nothing. I can see such a move happening just to help them balance their books.
 
Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:
A release clause yes. A 100M release clause for a 33 year old striker is what seems sketchy to me.



I know this but this is 5x Aguero's market value (and he moved on a free).



Thanks simon, at least you have been helpful here. You don't see anything sketchy in that release clause?



Still seems sketchy to me. He's cost them nothing. I can see such a move happening just to help them balance their books.
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https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....biggest-release-clauses-in-laliga/1240719/amp

There’s nothing sketchy about it. Like I said, it’s completely normal to have clauses like that for La Liga players
 
Posh Red said:
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www....biggest-release-clauses-in-laliga/1240719/amp

There’s nothing sketchy about it. Like I said, it’s completely normal to have clauses like that for La Liga players
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Those are all valuable players so the ridiculous amounts are mostly understandable given the fees they cost or value they had for the club (i.e. Benzema). Aguero has almost no value and given his age the amount of the clause seems weird to me, like there's some other motive there.
 
Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:
Still seems sketchy to me. He's cost them nothing. I can see such a move happening just to help them balance their books.
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I get what you mean, particularly because the Paulinho transfer happened. However, in this case, Barcelona have no other striker besides Braithwaite, and Griezmann this season functioned way better outside of a striker role. In this case, someone like Agüero would not only free up Messi some more but also Griezmann. He's also really good at working with other attacking players and can help them score more goals with his quality on the ball.

Therefore, to me, a high release clause makes sense; there aren't too many better low-cost (in terms of a transfer fee) options available who'd fit into their system outside of Agüero. Giroud would be an awkward fit for that team, for example.
 
mazhar13 said:
I get what you mean, particularly because the Paulinho transfer happened. However, in this case, Barcelona have no other striker besides Braithwaite, and Griezmann this season functioned way better outside of a striker role. In this case, someone like Agüero would not only free up Messi some more but also Griezmann. He's also really good at working with other attacking players and can help them score more goals with his quality on the ball.

Therefore, to me, a high release clause makes sense; there aren't too many better low-cost (in terms of a transfer fee) options available who'd fit into their system outside of Agüero. Giroud would be an awkward fit for that team, for example.
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Fair enough. Appreciate the analysis, mate.
 
Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:
A release clause yes. A 100M release clause for a 33 year old striker is what seems sketchy to me.



I know this but this is 5x Aguero's market value (and he moved on a free).



Thanks simon, at least you have been helpful here. You don't see anything sketchy in that release clause?



Still seems sketchy to me. He's cost them nothing. I can see such a move happening just to help them balance their books.
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I'm beginning to think you see it as sketchy?
 


Source: Gazzetta Dello Sport

The Dalot quotes:
I like to become more and more complete. Italians love football; they always talk about it. And on the pitch, I feel I have improved a lot tactically. I’d say I’ve had a fantastic year and met some great people.

It was a real pleasure to play for Milan, but now I’m thinking about the European Championship, and I really don’t know what will happen.
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Source: Marca

Future? I do not say anything. I’m at Atletico, I’ve been for seven years now and have two years left on my contract. I do not see the future. But neither the club, nor me, nor anyone else can do it. It’ll depend on the issues of how the club are, if they need to sell a player or not. There are many things in this.
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Oblak has a release clause of 120 million Euros.
 
RedSky said:
Are you actually quoting your own twitter account. :lol:
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Sport Witness haven't Tweeted since the Champions League final, and the Caf account missed out on those stories completely. Either I Tweet them myself or try super hard to look for Tweets with those exact stories.

I'm lazy, so I decided to Tweet them myself. Here's hoping the Caf account can Tweet them for me so that I don't have to do much more of this. I'm not an active Twitter user, anyways.

Look at it this way: I'm only Tweeting two United stories with relevant quotes on them. At least I'm not going for any and every story associated with United.

EDIT: This is why I'm tagging the Caf account; I'd rather they do this so that I don't go around looking like I'm promoting myself (especially when I don't really care about trying to post stories and such on Twitter).
 
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Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:
Thanks simon, at least you have been helpful here. You don't see anything sketchy in that release clause?
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You’re welcome. No I don’t. I see it as inserting the mandatory clause and putting it at a number no One will pay. That way if they sell him, it’ll be on their terms.

I do agree with your wider assertion they are a sketchy club though. Just see the Pjanic/Arthur deal which was all about depreciation.
 
Dwazza Gunnar Solskjær said:
Still seems sketchy to me. He's cost them nothing. I can see such a move happening just to help them balance their books.
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La Liga release clauses are insane now, but not too long ago they were lower; for example Neymar and his 222m euro clause. After what happened, Barca and Real are taking no chances and stick these enormous release clauses that no club can afford, not even PSG.
 
Barcelona have very interesting buyout clauses.
 
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