The cultural reboot was about kicking out lazy, unfit players who went to United because of a big fat paycheck and getting hungry, healthy players in. It never had anything to do with nationality. "Culture" is a pretty broad concept, but basically it's about how people behave around each other, and which norms and rules (both written and unwritten) that guide the behaviour. It's pretty obvious both that it was needed, and that the locker room culture has changed.
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The cultural reboot was about kicking out lazy, unfit players who went to United because of a big fat paycheck and getting hungry, healthy players in. It never had anything to do with nationality. "Culture" is a pretty broad concept, but basically it's about how people behave around each other, and which norms and rules (both written and unwritten) that guide the behaviour. It's pretty obvious both that it was needed, and that the locker room culture has changed.
I think he'd be incredible under Pep sadly.
Brighton fans think Bissouma is very good. Is he good enough for United and replace one of Fred or McTominay?
My mum would be a better midfield than those two. Well, Fred anyway as McT was commendable in the EL final
Not saying he is definately ready, many experienced players have not been ready to step up to th eexpectations of a big club. But this isnt an Amad situation considering that has two seasons of appearances behind him.
I know its a lower level than the German league but if Camavinga was 19/20 and playing for Dortmund with two seasons behind him, people would be raving about us signing him and he has as many appearances, actually more than Bellingham and Haaland put together for Dortmund I believe.
The only concern is the change of pace and culture coming here in comparison to Rice for example settling into the side, but he is definately good enough to start I believe even if we may get inconsistencies at first. I think whoever we wign there is the concern of them forming a partneship when none of our other central midfielders havent divided opinion from there performances, thats why Id stil like two signings personally, but if Camavinga was going somewhere else, I bet a lot of fans would be jealous....more so than Bellingham going to Dortmund as really we didnt know if he was that good having only played in the championship, Camavinga most cetainly is that good, he has shown it the last two seasons
Not saying he is definately ready, many experienced players have not been ready to step up to th eexpectations of a big club. But this isnt an Amad situation considering that has two seasons of appearances behind him.
I know its a lower level than the German league but if Camavinga was 19/20 and playing for Dortmund with two seasons behind him, people would be raving about us signing him and he has as many appearances, actually more than Bellingham and Haaland put together for Dortmund I believe.
The only concern is the change of pace and culture coming here in comparison to Rice for example settling into the side, but he is definately good enough to start I believe even if we may get inconsistencies at first. I think whoever we wign there is the concern of them forming a partneship when none of our other central midfielders havent divided opinion from there performances, thats why Id stil like two signings personally, but if Camavinga was going somewhere else, I bet a lot of fans would be jealous....more so than Bellingham going to Dortmund as really we didnt know if he was that good having only played in the championship, Camavinga most cetainly is that good, he has shown it the last two seasons, Im not even going to go into the Pogba replacing scenario, sick of that conversation
I just remember them running around abit, with Guendouzi getting his hair pulled by Fellaini.
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This is true and was reported on by the likes of Stone, Hirst, Ducker etc. But they also reported that Solskjaer wanted to create a British core similar to the Fergie days, which was later abandoned.
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Tottenham needed a right back but they chose to sell him for 12m. They also didn't see him as a future Tottenham right back. His situation at Tottenham was not far off with Brandon Williams though. There was doubt and needed game time to play so the player can grow and develop.
I thought the policy was still in place. Try to buy best of british if you can in position x. If you cant then look to markets abroad. Nothing wrong with that at all. Bayern buy the best german players, juventus buy the best italian players, barca and madrid buy the best spainish.
Its a totally understandable policy.
Was it abandoned or had he created it?
Half the first team is British: Shaw, Maguire, McT, Rashford, AWB and possibly Hendo also.
- Pogba's agent demanded he be allowed to leave
- Pogba hasn't signed a new contract, despite one on offer.
It's understandable if you can sign players for reasonable fees. But if those players are at clubs who demand ridiculous fees, then it's understandable that it's a bad policy in the long term.
Did he create it with Maguire, James and AWB? I would say he didn't, because apart from Maguire, the other two can be upgraded upon IMO, and there's reports going around already that he wants a more attacking fullback who will improve the build up phase.
The most influential players create the core of the team. And from what I've read, the most influential players are Bruno and Pogba.
I definitely want Camavinga, just not as Pogba's replacement and I don't think he will be. There's too many if's and but's for us to hang our hat on him as the solution, especially as we should be wanting to compete for the title next season. I only compared him to Amad in the sense that there's no definite argument that he should be starting, or playing at all, regularly.
Academy graduates = 12: Heaton, McT, Rashford, Greenwood, Lingard, Henderson, Tuanzebe, Williams, Garner, Pogba, Chong, Andreas. (last 3 non-Brits)
British non-Academy players = 7: Grant, Wan-Bissaka, Shaw, Maguire, Jones, Sancho, James.
This British bias looks more like a United Academy bias to me. For instance, consider how we persevered with Andreas and Lingard in 2019-20 season!
Hence buy best of british if possible if not look abroad. I may get shot down for this but i think any successful team needs a core of players of that domestic nationality.
Camavinga has more experience than either Rooney or Ronaldo when we bought them. Rooney cost £27m - long ago.
I'm in favour of buying the best of British. But not at any cost.
Yes agreed.
And that's why I shop at Tesco.
Williams has shown a lot of promise and at 20 still has tons of growth in his game. I could easily see him surpassing KWP by the time he’s 24. More inclined to be an attacking full back but he’s got talent and a great attitude.
You're a wise man, Lieutenant Drebin..
Over half the team constitutes a core if you ask me, especially when they're spread across all areas of the pitch. I mean we're only short of fielding an all British X1, with Sancho coming in and Greenwood getting more minutes.
He doesn't know so many people but does hate losing an argument. He should post less, not more, if he really wants to win arguments.do you know 5 million people
No one said anything about bias so I'm not sure what you're getting at.
No, but playing u18’s or u23’s in your teen years is ok. At 20 you really need to be stepping up into men’s football to continue the development. It’s about keeping a player challenged.
Bias is when you buy, or play, a Brit when you could get a better, similar-priced player. Bias is often unconscious, and done out of habit. Yours' and my definition of bias seem to differ. I think you're referring to conscious bias, which is closer to my definition of prejudice. Fans who saw nothing special in McT and Lingard but saw them getting matches may have considered that bias. Everyone is biased, all the time. It's natural; it's habitual. I don't make a moral value judgement when I refer to bias.
Isn’t Camavinga Matic’s replacement? And competition for Fred?
I'm not too getting carried away like some fans seem to be, plenty of time left of course, but also plenty of time to be disappointed as we so often end up come deadline day.
At least we seem to be targeting the correct areas. Hopefully with regards to Varane at least, he makes his mind up soon on his plans. Still think he will end up staying with Real unfortunately.
I'm excited to see some sales also, really hope we offload Lingard and Pereira at least.
At least we seem to be targeting the correct areas. Hopefully with regards to Varane at least, he makes his mind up soon on his plans. Still think he will end up staying with Real unfortunately.
I'm excited to see some sales also, really hope we offload Lingard and Pereira at least.
No I'm not talking about bias at all.
I was discussing the strategy of cultural reboot at United which was reported early in Ole's tenure and one of the tenet of this was supposedly creating a British core in the team that was being built.
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Emm maybe? Why?
Nope nothing concrete.
Pogba is still in negotiations to renew.
Nothing has come out about Pogba actually stating that he wants to leave. All hearsay and paper talk.
This is following the ol' CAF tradition of believing bad news and questioning good news.
Until there's a news article or statement that states that Pogba has left or intends to leave then I'll be on the belief that Pogba will sign a new contract.
Even if he doesn't sign a new contract before the window closes, he can still sign a new one right up until the end of the next summer transfer window, so there's plenty of time.
If Pogba's not signed a new contract within the next week United need to try to sell him.
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5 year deal
Maybe but it’s not going to be at Utd
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