Darnell Furlong moves from QPR to West Brom
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Sporting refusing to drop their price
I agree it's poor, but I wonder what is exactly happening in those negotiations. Something is so so weird.
Literally why. I swear him and the rest of the Ayews are just constantly swapping between Palace, Swansea and Villa.
Don't you mean Aye-w?!
i guess we only wanted him if Pogba left
I got the impression it was independent of Pogba.
My concern is it is a lot like summer of Moyes. When we signed just Fellaini. Are we waiting and lingering on some big galactico type again? We've seen how long our big name signings last...Schwein, Di Maria, Alexis, Matic... We've always peppered those around a core of up and coming talent. So I wish we just made the move for that Milo whatever his name is instead of haggling 5, 10 million on Maggie. Wish we would just send 50 mil to Sporting instead of considering negotiations w levy for Eriksen. Wish we would just sell Lukaku and replace him with someone like Dybala or Werner or even just keep the money and play Greenwood. But the long extended transfer sagas suck.
That is what I have thought on the situation all along,has been a funny old day for Utd news on Sky
I would be a complete hypocrite if I said Sky are BS merchants with the Fernandes stuff but was happy about the Maguire stuff later in the afternoon.
My concern is we don't have the money. And we're trying to play games with the terms. Sounds like we've only offered 20 for Longstaff. 70 for Maguire. Fine. But the selling teams want more. Follow up. Negotiate now so that we're not scrambling and overpaying. Why wait? It's madness to wait until the last two weeks when the selling team literally can't replace him. I don't know if it's judge or Woodward doing these things but they both need to be removed from the club quickly. We needed to spend 300m to catch up for this season. If we don't get another CB or RW, I can't see us getting top 6. Even with Maguire, top 4 is going to be impossible unless we get very lucky with injuries. Why are we allowing this to happen to our club?
Who can Arsenal sign that will cause this?
Only one reason: price demanded by the selling club combined with what the buying club wants to offer. Woodward and the Glazers don’t want to overpay.
No reasonable club would. No different to us and Madrid over Pogba.
Unless you want to end up like Barca, massively living beyond your means. If people don’t think shit with Barca will hit the fan at the rate they’re going, they’re kidding themselves.
It’s not about penny pinching owners and woody. It’s about running a self sufficient and successful business
From a supporters view this can be very frustrating though, especially when last summers transfer window also was underwhelming.
This is a very naive way of looking at it. We’ve offered 70m bloody pounds for Maguire and your negotiating tactic is just pay more? We’d run out of bloody cash. If teams won’t budge on price, we shouldn’t creep up when we’ve already made a very fair bid.
Sources close to me have said no media outlets have a clue if we are interested in Fernandes. There is a daily change on what is happening with him.
Move on then and find another option. It’s mental just to hope we sign him.
We won't play a 4-4-2 diamond. We've been playing 4-2-3-1 all preseason, and if we're gonna play something else it'll probably be 4-3-3. 4-4-2 diamond might happen in certain games, but not as our main formation. I'm guessing you haven't seen that many games this preseason?
We don’t know what the rejection was, was it just the structure of the deal or a flat out no. We also could have moved on as well, but getting similar prices. I don’t think we’re playing this as bad as everyone thinks.
1) journalists make shit up (all the time), then other journalists make up some more shit based on the original shit, and eventually you have a massive story based on feck all.
2) agents from either the selling club and/or the player are feeding gullible journalists false or misleading stories to either engineer a move, raise the profile of their player or start an auction to raise the price of a player they think is a saleable asset (see Lemina story for a prime example of this)
3) there is genuine interest from the buying club, but it depends on departures that may or may not happen. For us this would apply to Pogba, if Real were to stump up money we can't refuse with a week left of the transfer window we'd need to sign a replacement pretty sharpish, and if they hadn't done some ground work on a player like Fernandes then they'd be up shit creek
4) players who weren't intended to be part of the squad have impressed so much in pre season training and matches that a player in that position is no longer considered a priority or even necessary
5) higher priority targets in other positions cost more money than budgeted and so there isn't the cash left to make the signing, despite the interest being real
I could go on, but you get the idea.
There’s also a chance that Gomes has impressed on tour and we decided to give him an opportunity before bringing someone else in.
Might be. However I read often here the term “just pay what they want”. That’s not how negotiations work in real life - and would be horrible business regardless of who owns us.
And if Pogba stays, we are happy with Mata and Lingard? It simply cannot be if the manager has any ambition
We might want someone else more than Bruno, but it’s unthinkable that we only want a midfielder if Pogba leaves
Sounds like a 10 is only a priority if pogba leaves though. Right now priority appears to be a cb and depth in the double pivot, which will likely cost between 100 and 140m based on prices quotes for maguire and longstaff. That brings spending to 150 to 200m. I doubt they want to jist sign a 10 for 75m when the priority positions aren't sorted
And as return we may get the CL next season which gives 50-60 mil in revenue. IMHO the club wont invest until sponsorship deals are in danger.
We have 4 priority positions now that RB is sorted. We can’t hope to challenge for the league if we dont buy strong CB, DM, AM and RF.
It’s only if we lost ambition and are happy with a top 4 finish - but the supporters won’t be happy with that
These are your priorities though and not the priority reported by the 3 or 4 reliable journalists
That’s my assessment of the weaknesses In Our squad, right. But I think many would agree with it
Where are we on the transfer table?
Would be such a poor move from him, salary increase aside. Surely he can hold out for a top 4 club for another season.
We can't buy a midfielder until we are sure Pogba stays or goes, as the whole composition and balance would change. If he goes then we need a replacement, and have a far bigger budget left to get another midfielder too, who would be bought to fit for example Savic rather than Pogba. We need Real to hurry up and offload Bale and James. Regardless of what Ole says, this delay in buying midfielders just confirms to me that Pogba does have a price. Just one that Real can't afford without selling Bale and James first.
Similarly I think we are waiting to offload Lukaku, to have a better idea of our budget. If we were certain Inter could afford him and would buy him, maybe we wouldn't wait, but Inter make derisive offers, so we have to see if they can actually afford him. Which they can't. Unless they sell Icardi. And so again, we wait.
I don't think he has the quality for a top 4 side.
We should be happy with this move for him. Everton will stump up some extra cash to get him and we'll get a bit of money because of it.
Maybe we can use that money to actually reinforce the squad... Just a wild idea.
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