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Icardi is certainly a problematic individual but on the pitch he's a lethal finisher. The role of a striker is to score goals and we are relying on Rashford who's only clinical ability is to hit row Z on set pieces. If Rashford is good enough to start for this club than Icardi should easily too. There isn't one striker in the market available who's more efficient at scoring goals.

Rashford and Icardi have relatively similar goals/mins ratios, Marcus got 10 league goals while Icardi got 11, they take the same number of shots per game, Rashford got 2 more assists than Icardi, and Rashford is 5 years younger than Icardi. On top of all that Icardi seems to be a nightmare as a person. Avoid like the plague imo

EDIT: Numbers also suggest Icardi is underperforming significantly in terms of his expected goals. Rashford is too but nowhere near as much which suggests this idea of him as a lethal finisher is a myth (at least based off last season)
 
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no right wing for FFS. I cant understand how this club function. How can we enter another season without a RW?
 
Tierney wouldn't be back up to Shaw and Shaw hasn't done enough to keep that lb position frankly. Competition is healthy and lb is till one of the weaker areas in our team. Just because we need a cb, cm and rw slightly more than lb doesn't mean we should ignore a problem position when an excellent player becomes available. We're not fixing rw this season anyway.

As I said earlier I think Shaw is better than Tierney, if the latter goes to Arsenal we might have the opportunity to find out next season.
 

This deal was impossible for any club outside of Italy, Nobody can pay the salary Juve offered to a 19 years old. They have an advantage of the new Tax law. That is why Lukaku is pushing to move there cause he will benefit of the new tax law. Pogba on the other hand can not benefit of it because he was a resident in Italy 3 years ago.
 
And got injured almost instantly.

Unfortunately for Shaw I see his career blighted by injuries and fitness issues until the day he retires.

He came off cause he felt a twinge, there will likely be at least a few more throughout preseason. I wouldn't worry about it too much, Shaw played loads for us last season. He took part in 40 games, that doesn't indicate injury worries.
 
no right wing for FFS. I cant understand how this club function. How can we enter another season without a RW?

Why are so many people on here obsessed with signing a RW? Have I gone back in time to 2005 when that was still a position for top clubs? I genuinely couldn't even name a RW. This position only exists in lower league football nowadays.
 
One version of this rumour stated that the fee would be spread over several years, which is the only way arsenal could do a deal like this.

Still don't think they'll get him unless they can unload Mhiki and/or Ozil

Fees are usually spread over several years anyway in most transfers. So that isn’t something novel about the Pepe offer.

Arsenal offering 80m for anyone is absolute bollocks whichever way the deal is structured.
 
As I said earlier I think Shaw is better than Tierney, if the latter goes to Arsenal we might have the opportunity to find out next season.

Don't think any full back can be judged fairly in Arsenal's pathetic defence. Bellerin and Kolasinac should probably be viewed as 2 of the best full backs in the league, they're actually both great going forward. The problem is that unlike Robertson and TAA who can count on Liverpool's cbs covering for them, Arsenal's cbs and defensive structure in general are a joke. Because of this Bellerin and Kolasinac look shite but if you put them in City's team for example they'd probably look amazing.

I expect Tierney would be a similar case if he joined. I'm not convinced Shaw is good enough to be a starting full back for Utd regardless of whether Tierney would look as good in the Prem as he does in Scotland.
 
Why are so many people on here obsessed with signing a RW? Have I gone back in time to 2005 when that was still a position for top clubs? I genuinely couldn't even name a RW. This position only exists in lower league football nowadays.
Jadon Sancho, Mo Salah, Gareth Bale (now a bust flush but played a part in Real Madrid's CL wins), Raheem Sterling (has mostly played LW season just gone).

Although most of the well known attackers play on the left, there are still a few prominent right sided players at the top clubs/level below.
 
Why are so many people on here obsessed with signing a RW? Have I gone back in time to 2005 when that was still a position for top clubs? I genuinely couldn't even name a RW. This position only exists in lower league football nowadays.

You're saying no top teams have right side attacking forwards?
Amazing.
 
Rashford and Icardi have relatively similar goals/mins ratios, Marcus got 10 league goals while Icardi got 11, they take the same number of shots per game, Rashford got 2 more assists than Icardi, and Rashford is 5 years younger than Icardi. On top of all that Icardi seems to be a nightmare as a person. Avoid like the plague imo

EDIT: Numbers also suggest Icardi is underperforming significantly in terms of his expected goals. Rashford is too but nowhere near as much which suggests this idea of him as a lethal finisher is a myth (at least based off last season)

That's on the premise of one season. Collectively Rashford has around 30 (27) goals in over 110 appearances, Icardi 164 goals in 289 apps. He's certainly a clinical finisher and the better striker
 
That Kean swap deal has to be BS, they would bite their hand off for a straight swap never mind with 20 mill thrown in.
 
Icardi is certainly a problematic individual but on the pitch he's a lethal finisher. The role of a striker is to score goals and we are relying on Rashford who's only clinical ability is to hit row Z on set pieces. If Rashford is good enough to start for this club than Icardi should easily too. There isn't one striker in the market available who's more efficient at scoring goals.

For a poster who wants pass and move football, signing Icardi is sort of ironic.

Lethal finisher who scores as many goals as Lukaku excluding penalties and haven't scored from open play for 6 months.
 
That's on the premise of one season. Collectively Rashford has around 30 (27) goals in over 110 appearances, Icardi 164 goals in 289 apps. He's certainly a clinical finisher and the better striker

Rashford's far better in terms of an all round striker, Icardi has never offered anything outside of just his goals which was the main reason I never wanted him even when he was scoring and before I found out about his attitude problems. Even in terms of pure goals Icardi's numbers were very similar to Rashford at the same age with less assists and chances created. If we wanted just a pure goalscorer we should just keep Lukaku who's a better finisher than either Rashford or Icardi
 
For a poster who wants pass and move football, signing Icardi is sort of ironic.

Lethal finisher who scores as many goals as Lukaku excluding penalties and haven't scored from open play for 6 months.

That has also a lot to do with his current situation to be fair. Dont think many would score a lot when the fans, some players and the club want you out
 
Don't think any full back can be judged fairly in Arsenal's pathetic defence. Bellerin and Kolasinac should probably be viewed as 2 of the best full backs in the league, they're actually both great going forward. The problem is that unlike Robertson and TAA who can count on Liverpool's cbs covering for them, Arsenal's cbs and defensive structure in general are a joke. Because of this Bellerin and Kolasinac look shite but if you put them in City's team for example they'd probably look amazing.

I expect Tierney would be a similar case if he joined. I'm not convinced Shaw is good enough to be a starting full back for Utd regardless of whether Tierney would look as good in the Prem as he does in Scotland.

Couldn't you give the same criticisms of our defence then along with Arsenal's?
 
This deal was impossible for any club outside of Italy, Nobody can pay the salary Juve offered to a 19 years old. They have an advantage of the new Tax law. That is why Lukaku is pushing to move there cause he will benefit of the new tax law. Pogba on the other hand can not benefit of it because he was a resident in Italy 3 years ago.
AFAIK De Ligt won't be eligible for the tax break, as it won't be effective until 2020. But even if he were, with the way his salary is structured, the difference in cost for the club for juventus compared to english or spanish clubs would be within £3-4m a year. Not a small difference, but hardly a problem for the big english and spanish clubs
 
@utdreport: The latest #mufc offer made for Harry Maguire (£60m + £20m), has been agreed with Leicester #mulive [@transferpodcast, @garbosj, @DuncanCastles]

 
Why are so many people on here obsessed with signing a RW? Have I gone back in time to 2005 when that was still a position for top clubs? I genuinely couldn't even name a RW. This position only exists in lower league football nowadays.

You're arguing against wingers? Salah, Mane, Sterling, Sane, Mahrez, Hazard, Son (could argue striker on this one I suppose) all some of the top players in the PL
 
Couldn't you give the same criticisms of our defence then along with Arsenal's?

Maybe based on last season but not on the seasons prior tbh. Our defensive structure isn't as fundamentally broken as Arsenal's
 
That has also a lot to do with his current situation to be fair. Dont think many would score a lot when the fans, some players and the club want you out

He still played many games and didn't score a goal. For a player who is useless if he doesn't score, that's a very poor record.
 
I'm guessing the add ons are rather easly achievable ones and not difficult ones like winning the CL or PL. That way we get can act like we didn't overpay at the same time Leicester gets their 80 million, so win win I guess. Not a big fan of Maguire, hopefully he proves me wrong.
 
For a poster who wants pass and move football, signing Icardi is sort of ironic.

Lethal finisher who scores as many goals as Lukaku excluding penalties and haven't scored from open play for 6 months.

Pass and move football is more of a team dynamic rather than just having singular striker do all the movement. As seen with Lukaku and Belgium in the world cup you can be a stagnant forward and still adopt a system which is fluid, same as RVN under Sir Alex.

Im not really interested in having Icardi here but there's no one in the market who will offer us a better solution in his position if Lukaku leaves. If you take away Pogba's contribution, Rashford doesn't score enough goals, we don't have a Mane or Salah on the flanks to cater for his weaknesses. If we go into next season with Marcus as the only recognised striker we will miserably struggle to win games.
 
Wasn’t Castles a couple of days before everyone else on the AWB deal being agreed too?
 
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