No.is he better than fred?
No.is he better than fred?
I wasn't dodging the question. He came back to the club he thought would actually be going somewhere but that is far from the case. You’re acting like he had no affiliation with United when he left Juventus.
I have seen him play for Real Madrid only. And according to what I have seen and for me he is not. I would prefer Fred every day over him.is he better than fred?
No bother wasting our time with him then
Not seen anybody suggest he’s worth anywhere near that. In today’s market he’s comfortably worth 40-50 Million.Overrating of caballos is just something else, hardly played for Real but according to some he would cost 80-90 mil
Really wish in these circumstances Stone and Castle's addressed one another's conflicting 'intel' given they're saying the exact opposite
Agree. Blind is and always was a much better CB.I think he is bang average myself, think I am in the minority here but I would happily sell him if we were in for good defenders
If we have truly rejected 100mil plus Ceballos I would be absolutely fecking filthy. In any other circumstances a player like that would cost us 80-90 mil. Ceballos is young and has huge potential, and would instantly replace a lot of the creativity we'd be losing with Pogba.
Seriously would be so angry if we had this offered to us and rejected it. What the feck do we need the extra 50 mil for? Maguire money?
That bad, eh?
Yeah and looks a good player from what I've seen but not worth anywhere near 80 mil.is he better than fred?
Him and Zidane have fallen out. He’s not in Zidane's plans.If he was as good as you claim Real wouldn't be so willing to sell him after a year...
Especially being a homegrown Spanish talent and all
He hasn't increased 30 mil in value, but you have to remember that there's a 20-30 mil "United tax" for any player we're interested in.Not having that. A player doesn't increase 30 million in value over 17 starts in two seasons. He's been average as feck for them. he's not even close to a €50m player.
For what it's worth I don't think Tielemans is either.
Not when it is a player Madrid are trying to offload to buy our best playerHe hasn't increased 30 mil in value, but you have to remember that there's a 20-30 mil "United tax" for any player we're interested in.
Again, dodging the question. I guess I'll move on. Cheers for your time though.
I rate both, I don't think either are 50 million euro players. Even then, I think we would need to buy another midfielder to fit either into our team effectively.He hasn't increased 30 mil in value, but you have to remember that there's a 20-30 mil "United tax" for any player we're interested in.
On that basis, we're looking at a player who's just turned 22, just had an amazing tournament with Spain's under 21's, is highly rated within the Spanish media and has been compared to Thiago on several occasions, and is available in a deal we're we're getting rid of admittedly our best and most creative player, but also a player who's agent has publicly stated is intention to leave, which as far as I'm concerned makes him poison for our dressing room.
If you don't rate Ceballos (or Tielemans) I'd be curious to hear what you want in a young central midfielder, but fair enough. My question is how much better do you think we can do for a player in that position for effectively 50mil? I don't see many other available options.
Pogba wants to leave for his career. Agent is a cnut but lets be honest with where we are as a club.
50 million for a player Real bought 2 years ago for less than 20, hasn't played that much and wasn't great when he did pay? What? Please, explain that?
I would agree neither are 50mil players, but transfer fees almost never equate to true value. And 50mil is becoming cheaper every season.I rate both, I don't think either are 50 million euro players. Even then, I think we would need to buy another midfielder to fit either into our team effectively.
Not to forget Ceballos has fallen out with Zidane and real don't want him at all, that in addition to his form for the last two years, I can't see any team including us being mental enough to sign him for that much money. United tax or not, it would be ridiculous.
https://play.acast.com/s/thetransferwindow/f8324e7b-daea-48b0-94f9-6f8352d093ed
Mentioned in the podcast at 6:15
That doesn't mean we should sell under value, however pit we are right now.Facts. People act like a talented player, with suitors and options, is supposed to want to stay at a club in disarray. Clubs get rid of players whenever they are not right for them all the time, played should look after their own careers as well. United has been a pit for some years now.
I'm just arguing for arguments sake and to pass time to be honest. I don't really care about the price eitherI would agree neither are 50mil players, but transfer fees almost never equate to true value. And 50mil is becoming cheaper every season.
I don't care about the cost to be honest, I care about the opportunity. We're basically having our midfield taken out from under us this season with Herrera going for a free (don't get me started) and now the Pogba situation. We need to rebuild fast, and in my opinion the opportunity to get a player like Ceballos right now trumps having to forgo an extra 20 mil in cash for Real. Get Ceballos and suddenly we have a young, talented midfield general with bags of potential and decent resale value if it doesn't work out. Suddenly we have one creative midfielder to buy rather than two, and we can take our time picking the right one (which an extra 20-30 mil would not have helped us do).
Ceballos plus 120m i would take
Nobody has said he's worth 80mYeah and looks a good player from what I've seen but not worth anywhere near 80 mil.
Really wish in these circumstances Stone and Castle's addressed one another's conflicting 'intel' given they're saying the exact opposite
huh?Nobody has said he's worth 80m
Scrolling through this page would have been a good idea before commenting........ not sure what was funny.Nobody has said he's worth 80m
One person. Apologies.
The simple solution is to make a dedicated lower leagues transfer twitter thread.The amount of people moaning about others posting transfer tweets. Can we close this thread completely, we have transfer tweet thing only and due people being all high and mighty, looking down on news related to teams/leagues they see not worth of their time or scroll down movement, they can move their discussions to specific players thread they are interested in.
you said no one and quoted with a laughing smiley the person responding to that 80m claim. I'd say that was a pretty big failOne person. Apologies.
TypicalHe scored 1 goal all of last season, against us of course in a thrilling 1-1 draw.
Should probably make a foreign one too, or even better break it up. Have a Spanish transfer tweets thread, a French one, a German one etc. etc. right?The simple solution is to make a dedicated lower leagues transfer twitter thread.
He is absolutely not worth a punt at £20m. He can't get games at Southampton. Questions marks about his fitness and desire. Already shipped by Juventus and now by Southampton. It feels like some fans just want new faces without thinking what quality they add to the team.