Bang on. Said the same myself. He's no better than when we first signed him and his attitude stinks. Get 50m for him and be done with him.
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Bang on. Said the same myself. He's no better than when we first signed him and his attitude stinks. Get 50m for him and be done with him.
Thiago seems like the absolute last sort of midfielder Mou would fancy. He's always played with physically powerful, highly athletic CM's. Plus, where would he even slot in now you've got Fred? Matic and Pogba are guarenteed starters under Mou.
Now, if Sarri is actually interested in him as the rumor suggests...
Jorginho, Kante, Thiago would be tasty.
Now, if Sarri is actually interested in him as the rumor suggests...
Jorginho, Kante, Thiago would be tasty.deco?
Player of the Year two seasons running at two different clubs, a good World Cup, barely 25, English, leader, balls-player...
Again, who do you want that's better value, or do you just not want a centre back?
I mean, it is honestly how he works. Loves a petty one up.
I couldn't have the foggiest, but I stand by my point in that he is being way overpriced. Who said I don't want to CB? I am allowed to want him, but at the same time disagree with your opinion that it is a decent price ffs.
There are exceptions, of course. Fabregas is another one. But after signing Fred and Mou explaining his role, Thiago would be a strange signing.
Thiago could be another then. But yeah, it worries me that this name has cropped up after reports that Pogba wants to go back to Juve.
Thiago seems like the absolute last sort of midfielder Mou would fancy. He's always played with physically powerful, highly athletic CM's. Plus, where would he even slot in now you've got Fred? Matic and Pogba are guarenteed starters under Mou.
Now, if Sarri is actually interested in him as the rumor suggests...
Mourinho always uses a CM that can transition to a no.10 in phases of the game. It's a staple in his teams.
Deco, Lampard, Sneijder, Ozil, Oscar
And you've just spent nearly £50m on one. I was just reading an article today where Mou explains how Fred will be a more advanced, "link up" midfielder.
Would have loved him when we were linked in the Moyes era. Now though Fred, Maric, Pogba and all the players in reserve, including a similar type to me in Pereirra even though he is being used more defensively. I dont think there is any truth in it at all and will only happen if a player leaves, which I wish was Fellaini and really dont see Pogba going at all.
Would be a very good window but can’t see it. That would make our spend near £200m.
The Caf's insistence with labelling 29 year olds as 30 is honestly so strange.
I worried for a few minutes then.
Congratulations on the impending new baby Anthony, well done to you and your Mrs
Congratulations on the impending new baby Anthony, well done to you and your Mrs
Erm he's 29.
Good on Martial. Look after yourself and rip it up elsewhere. He doesn't want us (and doesn't need us with his talent), we don't want him. No drama, everyone moves on.
Glass hearted essay writing keyboard warriors wearing Mourinho bandanas, will you pick up the pieces before we shut the lights?
Absolutely delighted.
I'm at that stage now too. If we get the right price and can finally bring in a good RW then all the better.
See now someone is talking sense.
Even Martial +£50m. The problem is Hazard is another left sided player so right quality level, but wrong position.
We should offer £100m + Martial for Mbappe.
fair enough. 30 before the end of the season though. Neither is ideal unless it has the same type of short term impact as RVP
Yeah but you said 60m was a very good price then said we would have got more money had he kept his mouth shut. You can't have it both ways.
Fred does a lot of yards and can fill in as a no.6. But he's also got a really good left foot on him when passing or on set pieces. So yes, Thiago is a bit of a redundant signing. But then again your comment about him not being the type doesn't make sense, he is the type but we've already got someone in.
MEN are gutter sports journos on a par with the Daily Express or the Star. Really shouldn't be giving them clicks.
Even leaving out his partner is giving birth, we don't need to sell to buy. And until we buy we're going to be left with no one who can play in the final fecking third for the Leicester game. So quite obviously if Martial is going to be sold it will be after we've finished our business.
Even leaving out his partner is giving birth, we don't need to sell to buy. And until we buy we're going to be left with no one who can play in the final fecking third for the Leicester game. So quite obviously if Martial is going to be sold it will be after we've finished our business.
Can't wait until Martial leaves. His behaviour the last few months has been deplorable.
I don't get what you're trying to say. Considering the situation right now, 60M is a good price and yeah, if he didn't state his desire to leave publicly, we could have being in a stronger position negiciating with potential buyers. We would have definitely got more money for him.
I appreciate his positive aspects, but I'm not convinced he is the quickest or the best reader of the game or tackler. I think he'd be found out in regular high quality games, e.g. including the Champions League and whilst he might be less error prone than Jones, would he be as quick to the tackle as Smalling or Jones.
I've not see the leadership aspect either.
I have no problem him coming, but only if we somehow get the right price for what we have, otherwise it will seem like a very over priced upgrade when other areas are glaring in need, such as RW.
I'm actually less concerned about LB and RB as I think we are just riding out one more year on each. Young has been on reasonable form enough to be worthy of another season in the mix. The gamble as ever is does Shaw do enough to cover the rest of the mix and ideally to become the long term staple.
On RB I think we have Dalot to replace Valencia so similar situation. The key here is can be step up quick enough. Otherwise we'll need another stop gap at some point, so say a 29 year old for the right price.
Leave it mate, it's not a big deal. I just thought your post was contradictory.
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Thiago seems like the absolute last sort of midfielder Mou would fancy. He's always played with physically powerful, highly athletic CM's. Plus, where would he even slot in now you've got Fred? Matic and Pogba are guarenteed starters under Mou.
Now, if Sarri is actually interested in him as the rumor suggests...
He's got Fabregas right?
Martial's appears to lack the resilience and steel to play well into his thirties.
Martial may be 7 years younger than Perisic, but there's probably only a difference of 2 or 3 years in terms of shelf life.
Perisic is a machine who'll keep going for years despite what it says on his birth certificate. By contrast, Martial is going to take a couple of years to develop the requisite football intelligence, whilst his lack of work ethic will probably see him fall off quicker. And that's assuming that he ever will be a top class player. It's a massive gamble with relatively little evidence to support the idea it's going to happen.
Ages aren't as linear or predictable as posters here seem to believe. Physiology is more complicated than that and has multiple contributing factors.
I'd be happier with Perisic in the squad than Martial.
Martial may be 7 years younger than Perisic, but there's probably only a difference of 2 or 3 years in terms of shelf life.
Perisic is a machine who'll keep going for years despite what it says on his birth certificate. By contrast, Martial is going to take a couple of years to develop the requisite football intelligence, whilst his lack of work ethic will probably see him fall off quicker. And that's assuming that he ever will be a top class player. It's a massive gamble with relatively little evidence to support the idea it's going to happen.
Ages aren't as linear or predictable as posters here seem to believe. Physiology is more complicated than that and has multiple contributing factors.
I'd be happier with Perisic in the squad than Martial.
Yes, just more of the media sh#t storm they try to create and some fans just lap it up. No one should be forced to remain at work if they've a child on the way. Club haven't confirmed he was given permission to leave, that's what the media are spouting off about. Just need to club to officially confirm it was all agreed and yet again there is no story...
Though it isn't on the United website or twitter, the BBC say he was given permission to leave which is good enough for me.
I'm sure Mourinho will be asked about it pre or post-match anyway and we'll know for sure if he got permission or not then.
Ageism at its finest is rife on here, all goes unchallenged.
That is related to selling Martial, Darmian and maybe a CB. Would get us almost half the cash back.
Hahaha, already put this example a couple of times, but for those who are too young and repeat the "he's too old!", check it out, you may feel represented by this classic cinematic dystopia: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0074812/
"An idyllic sci-fi future has one major drawback: life must end at the age of 30."
"I'm in the comfortable position of being 30 years old. If my career as a coach continues to a certain point, it's possible that further down the line I'll get another opportunity to manage an elite team. It wouldn't have been the best decision for my family to have moved abroad now either,"
It would have been weird if they hadn't let him leave for it...
Hirst shit stirring again.
good for Martial. The birth of your kid is more important than the world cup final nevermind a meaningless preseason tour game
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