Valencia started the match but limped out after about 7 minutes. So right now, we will start the season with Ashley Young, fresh back from vacation, as RB, and Luke Shaw as LB.
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Valencia started the match but limped out after about 7 minutes. So right now, we will start the season with Ashley Young, fresh back from vacation, as RB, and Luke Shaw as LB.
Your first paragraph sums up my opinion on the Glazers. CL spot is the aim. If we drop out of top 4, they will spend even 300 million to get back.
Imo young is better right back than Valencia and better right back than left back.
I think he has decent delivery and not having to pull back to put a cross in will make him more effective lukaku will love it
I get what your saying tho
I would be more concerned if we didn't have TFM back from loan.
If we are signing maguire it probably means we are going 3 at the back.
2nd best ? Klopp will finish ahead of Jose this coming season
Relying on two wing-backs on the wrong side of 30 is suicide. Their legs will fall off a quarter into the season.
That sounds like a very shitty strategy. Always strenghten from a strong position to keep the squad at a certain level. I do wonder what the hold-up is on Alex Sandro. We all know Mourinho want a LB, but maybe Shaw's refusal to leave is stopping the transfer? I can imagine our wage budget being close to the limit with Alexis Sanchez coming in and a bit bloated squad. Imo we should get rid of Darmian, Jones, Rojo/Lindelof at the very least.
Seriously, we have to start acting in this transfer window.
Between13/14 and now, United has spent €774.53M. During that time we have won:
1 Europa League
1 FA Cup
1 League.Cup
2 Community Shield
I feel that them being pragmatic might not be the worst thing. United have blown away money without substantial rewards.
I feel that the higher ups aren't as convinced by Mourinho and his project anymore. They are a bit afraid to invest and then have to start from scratch again in 1/2 years.
I feel for Mourinho because his squad isn't complete. The team he has assembled is a good one but we all see that he's a few players short. And, he has mostly spent his money wisely.
So, in my opinion, it's a question of backing the manager unquestioningly or hedging your bets.
The pattern is clearly there. During LvG's first season, the task was to restore our Top 4 status after a 7th place finish. So the big names came in, like di Maria and whatever signings the manger wanted/or were green lighted by the club like Blind, Shaw, Herrera etc. We barely scraped 4th in LvG's first season and recognizing the potential danger of dropping out next season due to the poor end to the current season, we again spent big and signed the Fantastic 4 (Depay, Darmian, Schneiderlin and Schweinsteiger), and were chasing after impossible marquee signings like Ramos and Muller as well.
During Jose's tenure, we are somewhat established as a Top 4 club in the league (despite 6th in 1st season due to EL win), so the policy now is to use the current squad to its maximum and only buy certain marquee players with marketability like Bale, Griezmann etc if they become available.
I don't think the Glazers are as bad as Kroenke in not wanting to win trophies and merely content with top 4, but they probably believe that the squad, having finished 2nd last season, is adequate for a top 4 finish, a possible title challenge and maybe a domestic cup. There is no serious ambition to dominate the league like City did last season or become a CL favorite like Real. All I can say is if they think last season's 2nd place is truly reflective of where we are vis a vis rivals this season, then they could be in for a rude shock.
Yep, board should decide which way they want to go and then act as per that. The way things are being handled so far is not going to help anyone. Back your manager or fire him and hire a new one who is suitable for their plans.
Yeah, i don't trust the Glazers or how the club is run in general. We have to cross fingers and hope we don't implode this season.
Another skyports rhetoric. Please give me a list of the top players we've lost because we couldn't win titles.
The bolded part, I guess 8th time is the charm.
Since SAF retired, we spent 2nd most in league and IIRC second highest in Europe too, have one of the highest wage bill in Europe (3rd or 4th) but Glazers are penny pinching and settling for 4th.
Who is he going to sell though? Papers are saying Ed won't sell Martial, even though he looks like he cannot be bothered. Darmian? Would have been an answer if Valencia didn't then pick up an injury and we hadn't gone out and signed a RB who was already injured when we signed him. Pogba? I hope not.
Don't United have the highest wage bill in Europe and third most expensive squad. I'd question how the club is being run if you look at what the returns are.
Club don't seem to have a plan, just float from transfer window to transfer window, try to address issues and it's very hit or miss if we manage to land players for key areas.
The issue it that they appoint Woody to run the football operations. He has no skills for that. The club need football people core and not just throwing the money.
Think Barca, Madrid, City have bigger wage bill than us.
Yeah we are among the top when it comes to money spent but somehow it's Glazers fault and they are settling for 4th.
What difference does he make? He's not good enough to start for us in the league if you want us to challenge City.
On the recruitment front I don't think it is being well run at all. So Fred is going to be the answer to everything. We need more goals, and more threat going forward. So no we are going to get another CB. Which is OK if he is thinking of going to a three, but only OK if you have good wingbacks, you know people who get forward and have an end product. If Lukaku picks up and injury we are in trouble.
It isn't that they aren't spending, it is that they are not spending wisely which is a different problem.
Obviously owners won't be choose and pick targets. We have coaching staff, scouting staff, Jose to make the final decision.
Yeah Hirst broke the embargo for the brief and then changed the link.
Then if we fail and are dire in the process it is down to the manager. I still think Ed wants his galactico signing and he doesn't seem to make good choices more often than not on that front.
Remember Fergie had a blindspot for midfield, at the moment it appears Jose has multiple blindspots.
Well Woodward is responsible, I don't see how anyone can blame owners here. Woodward is not owner.
He’s very likely to be for sale next year, but not this one
Not blaming the owners. Jose says who he wants and it is up to Ed to get them. There again it depends who is setting the budget.
From Andy Mitten's article.
https://www.thenational.ae/sport/fo...-stalemate-with-san-jose-earthquakes-1.753041
https://www.thenational.ae/sport/fo...-stalemate-with-san-jose-earthquakes-1.753041
Of course it's their fault, they run the club and oversee everything that goes on within the club. They may hire and fire who they wish to get whatever their objectives are. Whoever made the call to hire Van Gaal should have been booted out of the club, terrible, terrible decision to hire a difficult manager, who was long, long past his sell by date.
We simply do not have a squad capable of competing with City and looking at where we're at right now, 2nd is going to be one hell of an achievement. Team needs more than Fred and Dalot.
- He renewed Rojo’s contract
- He signed Lindelof who’s also not good enough
- He didn’t sell Jones.
- He signed one potentially good but actually injury prone defender (Bailly)
Woodward is an employee, you retain a failing employee, then it's on you...
So by the same logic, did anyone say it was because of Glazers we won 5 league titles since 2005 and a CL? Because they oversee everything.
Going by what you said, it's their fault for appointing wrong manager, but can't see how anyone can say they are settling for top 4 when we have spent so much money.
Yeah, well done Glazers for winning us 3 league titles in a row and then winning 2 more in next 4 years, also winning CL and making 2 CL finals.
Was never leaving Italy, so unless he was moving the club there, it was never going to happen.
My feeling is that Woody chases galactico signings and at the same time tries to show his bargaining skills when the manager provides him with a target wish list.
With his background focussed more on sponsorship and addressing shareholders, and it seems the blame is pretty much laid at his feet. Man City and even Liverpool show how to do it, have the target, find out the release fee, and basically complete the transaction. Never hear the phrase that we get in our negotiations that the player doesn't match our valuation, who decides that, and basically why?
Anyway, asusume he has done enough globe trotting to gala events, maybe he will surprise and complete a desired signing before the end of the transfer window.
With his background focussed more on sponsorship and addressing shareholders, and it seems the blame is pretty much laid at his feet. Man City and even Liverpool show how to do it, have the target, find out the release fee, and basically complete the transaction. Never hear the phrase that we get in our negotiations that the player doesn't match our valuation, who decides that, and basically why?
Anyway, asusume he has done enough globe trotting to gala events, maybe he will surprise and complete a desired signing before the end of the transfer window.
They inherited a wonderful Manager and have failed to replace him thus far.
I've not once said the Glazers are settling for 4th. I don't believe they are, but it's pretty obvious we're certainly not building a squad who are going to push City all the way. I'd estimate as of right now 3rd is where we'll finish, unless a few issues are addressed with the team and club as a whole.
I'm sorry, but this is nonsense. It's akin to blaming the CEO of Tesco for the check out boy at your local express being rude to you.
They have a whole team beneath them, so if which are trusted to do their jobs, and to employ the correct people beneath them.
Jose chooses the players along with the scouting staff, and Ed buys them.
In reality we have no idea at all who any of our targets have been, what prices are really being offered or asked, or how negotiations have gone.
Ed's main job is commercial and he's one of the best in the world at it, so he's not going anywhere anytime soon, and nor should he.
You simply can't blame the Glazers for the squad, they don't choose the targets or how much we'll spend on them, they have no part in the negotiations. They simply set a limit of spending for each year, which as pointed out is a very healthy amount
Ofcourse they oversee everything, they could have sacked him and replaced with someone else.
Anyways my argument was, Glazers are not settling for 4th, if they are then they are doing very bad job by spending so much money just to settle for 4th.
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