If Mourinho didn't want Sandro, no negotiations would have ever happened. The interest was because that's what Jose wanted.
This one's on Woodward.
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This one's on Woodward.
So we have been linked with Sandro all summer and suddenly Jose thinks Young and Shaw is ok? We have been linked with a CB all summer as well.
No that’s not necessarily true. We obviously identified him as a target and it could very well be that the price was a bit more than we were willing to pay so Jose decided to persist with Young for now and reinforce another position.
We’re linked with hundreds of players every window. You can’t take everything you read for face value can you.
Everyone on here knows we have been chasing a LB and CB all summer but if that's how you want to play it to prove your point then ok.
Jose isn't the money man. This isn't Football Manager. His role is only to identify targets and ask the board to sign them. If the negotiators can't do that, the manager's hands are tied.
But we have bought bailly and lindelof for 60m ish in last two years. How many do people want. If we’re gonna sell 2 of the remaining 5 then we can talk about another center half but spending 65m on a player like maguire is nuts considering we could have gotten him for 12 last year why didn’t we do that instead of lindelof. I still don’t think he is as good as folks are saying tbh - maguire that is
Our identity?? Mourinho has already done that. All I've ever known United to be is an attacking side for the most part until well LVG/Mourinho shows up.
No I’m not trying to prove any point. I want us to sign Sandro as much as anyone. I think he’d be a fantastic signing.
I’m just saying it’s possible that it’s all made up like Fabinho was.
The recent reports coming out were obviously a briefing by someone inside the club so they’re obviously up to something. I’d be delighted if it turned out to be Sandro.
Starting to get a bit worried now. No matter what you say about the quality of attacking football, we need a left back and right winger badly, and it seems like we might be lucky to even get one of those.
Hopefully things start moving soon.
Hopefully things start moving soon.
I’m just stating that Jose is in the loop on things like this and isn’t excluded from it all.
That’s all my initial point was. I’m not trying to say he’s privy to everything but he’s probably involved in a lot of it.
But look at what Jose inherited:
- Blind is not a Mourniho type of defender
- Rojo is not good enough
- Jones only counts as half a player because he's so injury prone
- Smalling only counts as half a player because he's so injury prone
From a squad building perspective, 3 CB purchases were probably always going to be necessary.
I don’t disagree with any of this but spending 120m to solve it is my problem especially when maguire went for 12 last season. It is insane
65m for a player should be automatic first choice I’m not sure he is better than Smalling (and I don’t like Smalling) or bailly. If we are spending that money on me should be no doubt
This is typical English player hype train stuff
Why isn't Mourinho as involved in transfers as Fergie was? I think being contacted by the manager laying out his plans and his desire to bring him to the club is more motivating for most players. Mourinho seems a little passive in that part of transfers but it could be all a smokescreen.
Behave yourself you imbecile
A breakdown in negotiations and deciding that his current options are sufficient for now are not the same thing. That’s pretty easy to understand.
A keyboard warrior to boot. And here was me thinking you were just a cretin.
There are multiple targets. He only makes do when he has no choice and none of the said multiple targets are signed by the board for whatever reason. If you think he has turned the same players down that he’s asked the board to sign then that just underlines how idiotic your argument is.
It’s so simple a rock can understand it. You however...
Surprising how that it impossible to comprehend for some...
Ultimately we don’t know if this is getting done or was even on the cards just like the Morata Lukaku bamboozle.
So it’s not possible that the fee quoted was baulked at and we have moved on and have briefed as such?
Get off your high horse and stop being a condescending know it all.
Some people...
As far as I'm concerned, Woodward can feck off along with Mourinh, so tired of these God awful transfer sagas.
Mourinho literally said after last season ended we need an upgrade on both fullbacks if we are to contend for title this season. We were linked to Danny Rose for almost entirety of last season but once again that deal didn't happen because Spurs asking price was too high. Same is going on with Alex Sandro, entire world knows Juve need to sell some of their players due to huge transfers they have made this season and United are trying to lower the price on Sandro but looks like they are not budging. Hence, the latest reports.
If it were up to Mourinho he'd probably pay whatever is required for Sandro AND Maguire. But like at most clubs manager doesn't negotiate for the players, that's up to Woodward and the board and if they feel price is too high they will back off. Like they did with Perisic and Rose last summer, Alderweireld this summer.
Also, don't take Maguire's quoted amount at face value. That's probably to scare off any prospective buyers.
Your changing your tune now aren’t you?
I’m going to hammer this in your head if it’s the last thing I do.
Like you say If the the board refuse to pay the fee then how in holy feck is that on Jose?
You now are saying we have moved on which completely contradicts your statement that we haven’t and are making do
Your saying I’m a “know it all” when all I have done is state the obvious. It’s solid amusing that you claim to know what we have and have not done in baulking at the price and moving on where I have not made any comments about knowing the situation.
I don’t present anything as fact, using words like “possible” are relatively indicative of that, so if you think that’s the case then maybe you should read it again. If you can read anyway.
Face it man, you know as much as the rest of us. Which is nothing obviously.
I don’t claim to know anything I’m just speculating like everybody else.
Chris Smalling played 46 games last season; he also played 55 in van Gaal's last season and missed games during the season in-between more due to Mourinho not choosing him than because of injuries.
Jose keeps making comments about his squad not being sufficient. He's also made comments about his full back options, club are actively moving on back up players who play in full back positions. So you really think that there's no interest in a new full back?
If we go into the season with Young as LB, no certain CB partnership and no RW then I can safely say we are fecked. Its just completely beyond me how we are planning yet another season with 2 33 year old wingers as our RB and LB. We havn't had a certain CB partnership in years now and keep rotating in that position instead of trying to get 2 to work together and gel. Seriously if we want to move forward Dalot and Fred is not enough and the window closes in 2 weeks which quite frankly is starting to worry me.
I think it’s a high probability. Until it happens it’s just all speculation.
Yeah you can obviously look at it with some logic and try and work our what’s going on but it’s obviously not certain.
136 appearances in last 3 seasons, but he's injury prone? Caf is so opinion based and BS is being spread and soaked up on a hourly basis. Guy is 6 appearances fewer than De Gea over last 3 seasons.
Your math worry's me if you think 9th of August is in the next 14 days....
How do you know it's Jose and not the Glazers tightening the purse strings? The latter seems just as likely, although you'd expect Jose to moan about them through his mouthpieces in the media like he did last year.
So we should then give up the rest of our identity too? Let's become yet another club that player power rules supreme and we rotate managers as soon as the players throw a tantrum and down tools
Yeah, let's pay a ridiculous fee for Maguire without addressing our two most pressing issues for yet another summer - left back & right wing.
Going into the season with two 33-year-olds as first choice full backs is pathetic.
Going into the season with two 33-year-olds as first choice full backs is pathetic.
I remember when I thought Obertan was going to be a world beater . I was so innocent and full of hope.
Today’s match is evidence we need two fullbacks.
65 million for fecking Maguire 
Add another 5-10 and bid for one of the best CB in the world like Koulibaly or even Varane. Or wait a few months and renegotiate with Levy in the winter window.
I'm guessing that Maguire will be our last signing. No LB & No RW. Man, this is going to be a depressing season if true
Add another 5-10 and bid for one of the best CB in the world like Koulibaly or even Varane. Or wait a few months and renegotiate with Levy in the winter window.
I'm guessing that Maguire will be our last signing. No LB & No RW. Man, this is going to be a depressing season if true
Hmmm but neither of our first choice ones played, nor did the new right back we purchased. So where was this evidence you mention?
I have a strong feeling that the board is penny pinching for some reason. I don't think Jose wants to end up 2nd best again against his rival Pep, and to beat City, we MUST improve our team. There is no way Jose is happy with this current team. Something is not right.
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That I agree with...I missed your point if that's what you were referring to...no player bigger than the club.
Its baffling that every window the RW position gets neglected by our managers. Shambolic transfer strategy
My impression has been they want to spend 100 million sums on galacticos and penny pinch on the lesser names that Jose actually wants to build a cohesive team.
Jesus. The overrating of Dembele is disgusting.
He was a complete non factor for Barca just let it go ffs - he’s the worst £100m+ transfer ever.
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