At the end of the day if a club is willing to submit to what Mourinho wants in a team I think he can still win things, but his way is the antithesis of Manchester United, and that's unacceptable IMO.
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Isn't it past your bed time?Haha. Hardly merits that title. Been an enjoyable discussion in fairness. That holding back support because we signed Lukaku is hilarious though.
Is that true?
Yeah, that's certainly how you see it. For me it was unacceptable to appoint Moyes and persist with LVG and then to not address the chaos squad that period created properly and sharpish (I still support the team mind!
)I am happy to see we are at least trying to offload him. He's not good enough and it also must mean we are actively trying to sign a capable left back.
Not only have the lardass stolen a living for years, but now he also sabotages us finally recouping some of his fee.
Yes. So cringeworthy.
We have made one awful manager choice after another, I don't disagree there, we've yet to appoint someone post Fergie that embodies the values Sir Matt and Fergie made our club great with.Yeah, that's certainly how you see it. For me it was unacceptable to appoint Moyes and persist with LVG and then to not address the chaos squad that period created properly and sharpish (I still support the team mind!
Verified moaner tag suits you perfectly.
He is of course in his good right to deny a move away from United, but it does sound a bit like he wants to run down his contract, to collect a great sign-on fee next season. The other reason is that he believes he can convince Mourinho, but i honestly doubt it.
Him stuffing himself with McD and KFC all summer proves otherwise.
its all reported from the Times via Duncan Castles
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Luke show part
Luke Shaw has rejected the opportunity to rebuild his stalling career at Everton. Out of favour at Manchester United after spurning multiple chances to establish himself as the club’s starting left-back, Shaw has been made available for transfer in the current window as Jose Mourinho seeks to improve his defensive options.
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Although United have identified Alex Sandro as their preferred replacement for Shaw, provisionally agreeing personal terms with the Brazil international, they have refused to meet Juventus’ asking price for the defender.
Shaw’s reluctance to consider offers from elsewhere in the Premier League has further complicated the move for Sandro.
Shaw can piss off regardless.
Feck it, sell all three (Shaw, Blind and Darmian) and throw money at Juventus for Sandro. We have two fullbacks in Young and Dalot that can play both sides.
I’d rather take a punt on a reputable LB and potentially overpay, rather than stick with 3 below par players that are so out of favour that they can’t displace a player who just converted to that position (Young). They are hopeless. Move em on.
I’d rather take a punt on a reputable LB and potentially overpay, rather than stick with 3 below par players that are so out of favour that they can’t displace a player who just converted to that position (Young). They are hopeless. Move em on.
If Rugani is for sale we should buy him 100%, great talent and well worth the money.
He seems determined to get paid as much as possible for doing as little as possible. The early signs were never good when Van Gaal revealed he was the only uninjured player in the squad who wasn't fit. Seems a mentally weak player. Will end up at Everton or Newcastle in a year and spend career there.
Duncan Castles was the first one to come with the news that united are interested in Sandro. Now he is saying that united dont want to meet the asking price despite we agreeing terms with the player.
Have we agreed terms with Sandro? What’s Duncan Castles’ “scoop” track record?
Can Shaw take the blame for United's unwillingness to meet the asking price? By the looks of it he already is....
No, but if he is told he is not part of our plans for the coming season and he decides to burn down his last year instead of seeking first team football then he deserves every bit of stick that will come his way. He has been getting well payed for years and has contributed very little as it is.
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Honestly, it just sounds like a typical Mourinho blaming Luke Shaw situation. Shaw has a year left on his contract that was extended by the club, so he has every right to stay at the club if he wishes. Whether that'd be to pick up better wages and a signing on fee next year or if he believes he can prove himself over the coming season and become first choice LB (especially with Young now 33 and not coming back from England duties till early August).
Shaw may have disappointed in parts last season, but let's be real now, the article states that Shaw spurned "multiple chances to establish himself as the club’s starting left-back". Which simply isn't true for the most part, as he hasn't didn't get a regular enough run-out last season. The only time he did was when Young got injured and Mourinho ended up calling Shaw one of the best left backs around after his improved performances. Mourinho followed this up by dropping him the second Young was fit again.
I don't have full access to the article, but from the first 2 paragraphs it sounds exactly like what Mourinho would say in this situation, as opposed to a neutral. As if United not signing Sandro is Shaw's fault.
Dunc often likes to paint the club in a negative light to big up Jose. Like, "Poor Jose is struggling as mean Ed refuses to fund transfers" narrative.
But that doesn't mean there isn't a bit of truth to that though. Last window was bad enough, but if we sign no more players this window, it will be confirmed that the Glazers are penny-pinching until the deadwood is removed from the wage bill. And considering our resources, we shouldn't need to buy only if we can sell when the need to buy is high.
You concluded all that without even having access to the article and only from 2 paragraphs? Without seeing how shaw performs in training? For which three managers criticized him for and said that he's not committed enough.
Unbelievable it will be if we end up with our full backs yet again, don't wait for any improvements then. Jose will be the one to blame if it ends with what we have, 2 years and he decides to stick with the likes of Young, Shaw, Valencia AGAIN. Madness.
What if it is coz of the lack of support from the board in terms of spending money? Everybody knows that in an ideal world, we should buy 2 full backs, one CB, one RW, one playmaker and a backup striker to go head on against City. One CB, one more full back and a RW is a bare minimum requirement. But it is widely reported that the board is not ready to spend enough money to buy top class players for these positions. So in that case, how can you say that it is Jose's fault? You can't possibly deny that the signings he has made over the last two years was with a view to address the shortcomings of our squad. Imo, either the board should allot more funds to address all the issues with our squad or we should give him time and be patient. To the Jose haters, I am not saying that our team is very bad now or that Jose hasn't spend money so far. But to fight against a near perfect City side, the board should invest more money and get better players for him or we should give him time, be patient and let him build his squad.
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No. The board must have clear idea in football management terms. They should invest in modern manager that will build attacking style and will fullfil 100% potential of our huge talents in the attack line.
Mourinho wanted Fellaini. Board gave him Fellaini. So he can play with Fellaini.
If he joins an English club on a free we'll get a handsome fee anyway, so you're talking out your ass.
They aren't messing around this summer.
I reckon making too many signings can be risky as often the expectations are much higher.
Odds on Pellegrini being sacked by Christmas and another fans' revolt if results don't go their way?
They are often laughed at but that seems like a decent signing and a statement of intent spending £42m.
Shades of Everton last summer.
In fairness to them, they’ve lost one of their best players for most of the season in Lanzini, they need to replace his creativity with a couple of players as opposed to just the one.
Although, I do agree, the standard West Ham overconfidence is sure to come
Interested to see how this lad does in the PL
I've just read the full article and I stick with what I said. You make a fair point about not seeing him in training, but Mourinho's treatment of him has been significantly more severe than any of the previous managers. How many times has he publicly put Shaw down? Plus, like I previously said, when Shaw was given a run of games and he impressed with Mourinho calling him one of the best left backs around, it does Shaw's confidence no good to be subsequently dropped the very next game and be barely played again for the rest of the season.
Either way, my point was us not signing Sandro has no real dependence on Shaw. However, the article says that Shaw not leaving has complicated the Sandro deal. Unless the £10/15m selling fee is crucial to getting Sandro, I don't see the relation. The article itself says United refused to meet the asking fee for Sandro.
I am impressed by West ham’s signings to be fair. Their fans can’t moan this time round that’s for sure. Can’t see them making Europe or anything spectacular but they have given themselves a good chance if they can gel this new squad together.
At this rate, West Ham might end up having a better team than us.
Corinthians are so old hat, ever since Tevez left, they’re not hipster enough for me.
Ah fair enough, thanks!
No chance.
This season we will have much better balance.
Pogba Matic Fred
Sanchez, Lukaku Lingard / (rashford,martial or new signing)
We will be firing next year!
Pellegrini will know how to manage that squad, binning off Carroll would be the icing on the cake for their window.
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