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I'm talking about the players we are being linked with for this window.
Sure mate, I'm just feeling a bit down about the way we've played for the last few months, it has been everything I worried about with Jose and seeing us linked to the likes of Keane, Dier and Moura doesn't exactly boost expectancy, hopefully I'm pleasently surprised this window.
Don't believe what you read. Journalists haven't had a clue for the past 3 seasons, so most of the players we are linked with, we are probably not even interested in. There's also been that period where we played well and I'm hopeful that we'll improve on that. Unfortunately I can't see José changing all that much in big games.
If we played the bulk of our games like the way we played prior to the league cup final and only played the negative stuff in big away games I could deal with that, but not against every half decent team, and if we are to play that way we need to learn to counter attack signifigantly better than we currently do.
Neither. He'll play good football against the weaker sides but try and pull off something against the bigger sides. Leagues are won against the smaller teams though, so if this window goes well I can see us challenging.
Not saying there's 0% chance it could happen next season, just that that's not a viable long term strategy if the goal is to compete for titles.
That's one of the things people get wrong when they say Fergie played more conservative in big away games, he did but he also had us counter attacking properly with numbers, where as Jose isn't doing that, we are playing for draws which is unacceptable, doubly so at Old Trafford.
@Damien The tweet section shows up as winter window.Fix it for my OCD, please. Cheers!
I think he made the best use of what he had. If he had better defenders and more balance squad, the approach might have been less cautious. At least that's what I hope it is, coupled with the injuries. If he continues to do it, following a successful summer transfer window, then it would be disappointing.
We shall see I guess, I don't think our options were bad enough to excuse the way we played in some of those games personally, Mhki and Mata as auxillary fullbacks was ludicrous.
#Gazzetta reports that Milan, for reinforcing the midfield, will focus on Tolisso. The Frenchman is a player that Mirabelli likes a lot.
Feck me, now we shouldn't be excited about signing a third place Ballon d'or player? This place is more embarrassing every day.
Except that's not what was being said, the conversation was that he's an excellent and effective player but not an exciitng one to watch like say Neymar or Hazard.
Was Cantona an exciting one to watch?
Yes, he was full of audacious flair and invention, I don't see any comparison between him and Griezmann who is a fox in the box type of forward.
I can't see an option to rename it in the add-on. It'll have to be something for @Niall to change manually.
Griezmann is a smart player. You don't get that close to Ballon d'or if you are just an ordinary forward who can score. A smart player is more exciting than someone who can dribble but may be mentally suspect ala B. Silva.
And of course excitement is an excitement. Why is it matter when we should be excited about signing someone but should also complain he's not that exciting? Doesn't compute.
All depends what you enjoy about the game I suppose. Some people prefer Xavi whereas others prefer Neymar. Different strokes for different folks.
Griezmann is going full Ramos on us.
If you think so, that's fine. I never said anything about his quality so I don't know why you keep bringing up the Ballon d'or, Cannavaro once won it and I wouldn't call him exciting either, it's about how effective you are, a different thing to exciting.
It doesn't compute because you are mixing up what was said, he's a very good player but some obviously agree that he's not the type of player that excites them, if he excites you then as I said, fine.
Fox in the box. Griezmann.
It's one thing to debate Griezmann's qualities and how he'll fit into the team. It's another to come in and knock down a straw man while calling other posters "embarrassing." I think @Devil may care laid it out nicely so I won't give you the dignity of actually responding to your "argument" seeing as he's already taken it apart.
As for my original point, it's perfectly normal to say that Griezmann is a good goal scorer (which we need) but that he's not exciting enough to me to warrant the kind of muppet hype that he's built up around this forum. As an example: Van Persie was both a great goal scorer *and* exciting to watch. Griez doesn't do it for me in that sense.
Sorry if this wasn't clear, but I was laughing because I find the description of Griezmann as a "fox in the box type forward" to be wholly inaccurate. If anything he's much more of a 10 than a 9. Tremendous work rate, comes deep to get the ball constantly. A definite second striker as opposed to "fox in the box".
Fox in the box. Griezmann.
He also has great aspects in his game outside the box don't yhink anyone is saying he doesn't but inside the box his movement reminds me of Micheal Owen in the way he gets in front of his defender. So a fox in the box would be apt so @Devil may care has a point. Not getting your smillie face?
You like to dramatize things don't you?
Are you sure you're talking about B. Silvia, not Messi?
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He would be a natural fit in Juve's midfield. He could also possibly play some wingback when they play 3-5-2.
The current rumored moves are for players who were "authorized" to move last season. Nothing abnormal for the moment.
Missing out on Silva, I'd be gutted if we didn't get either or both of Fabinho and Mendy. They'd improve us tenfold in two of our weaker positions. Would be gutted if all 3 moved to City tbh.
They already got Youri do you know of anyone else they are looking for to replace the guys that are leaving?
I read about Nicolas Pépé, Meité(for Fabinho), Karamoh and Maouassa. But Monaco already have Tielemans, Jorge, Boschilia, Gil Dias, Adama Traoré, Corentin Jean, Gaspar, Almamy Touré or Saint-Maximin.
I see what you're saying. If you have any dreams of seeing the 'exciting', 'off your seat' kind of players, just kill it. We are most likely going for effective and workmanlike type players that will fit into the kind of football José plays. I'm not surprised at the Perisic or William rumours. Disappointing, but José will get what works for him.
Would make a lot of sense to be fair.
Where will it end for City though? Surely he'd cost 30m+, and they'll likely be in for 2 full backs a CM and possibly a CB too.
Already spent 43m on Silva
Wasn't Mkhitaryan and Pogba "Exciting to watch" kind of players?
Not sure I fully agree with this. that Monaco squad is very good, with some top youngsters but they do remind me a bit of Mourinhos youngsters at Porto and for your Decos there is a Carlos Alberto. personally I still think Luke Shaw is as good as any other left back potentially if he can stay free on injuries, get regular games and his confidence back.....which yes is a lot of IFs. I also think Fabinho is a really good right back but just a decent central midfielder and Valencia is good enough for me as a right back for a couple of years. Also think Bakayako is really over rated personally. I wouldnt mind Mendy for sure, but the grass isnt always greener, and I certainly dont think either signing massively improves us ten fold. I think SIlva would have been a very good signing sadly. Mbappe of course is the gem but with us already having a similar player in Rashford, seems another not needed. As good as that Monaco side is, not sure we should be in for any of them personally
I agree with most of what Devil May Care says, good points. However, fox in the box is a laughable description of Griezman I would say. He isnt a super exciting player, he is a hard working and very intelligent one with good technique who can be decisive. Reminds me a lot of Teddy Sheringham but with pace and I wouldnt ever describe him as a fox in the box. All his other points I pretty much agree with but fox in the box.....no
Going into next season relying on Shaw is hopefully a mistake we don't make. He's unreliable, if he's as good as people claim, if he can stay fit he should be able to force his way into the team even with competition from Mendy. Fabinho has been a revelation at DM this season, I doubt we'd bring him in to play as a RB.
I'm so jaded and cynical of Twitter now. Di Marzio is the guy I truly trust.
Lads can you talk about City's potential XI in some other thread please?
Yes relying on Shaw is perhaps a gamble as for me Blind/Rojo are pretty poor as alternative left backs and Darmian is average. I still want to see Shaw make it though, he looked liek he was becoming the player he promised leading up to his injury, hasnt looked good at all this season, he doesnt even look fit to me. But too early for me to write him off, but yes he is now a gamble I do agree. As for Fabinho, like Bakayako, whenever I have seen Monaco, neither have seemed that great to me, seem more like flavours of the month. Obviously that is just personal opinion. Different types of player obviously but I see for example Renato Sanches getting panned after one poor season when he hasnt got opportunities, who seem like really good options for me
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