Again I'll mention Adama Traore for Memphis' replacement, very raw but very very talented, every big game he has caused problems, he cause problems for us today
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No thanks. He's pretty brainless. Would just end up infuriating people. Didn't do that well at Aston Villa when they got relegated.
He's just another Theo Walcott without the added knack of scoring. Brainless is the perfect word for him.
Naah - we can aim higher . We already have martial and Rashford who has huge potential. So if we are buying someone lets go for a proved one like Mkhi
He's quick but that's about all. Doesn't seem to have much in the football IQ department.
That break they had in the first half that he fecked up showed exactly that. All the things you'd want from a forward but no brain.
I agree with you mate...
He showed much potential and talent than depay had.
We tend to forget that he is still 20yo. The talent is there but he shoud improve his decision making. If the price is right i think we should try to sign him.
Sell depay and young and sign this kid
Wrong.
Adama looks like the type of player you'll be saying the exact same for the next 5-6 years or so.
Swap Zaha for Adama in all the previous posts. That's about what buying him would be like.
Agree. I've watched him and he creates problems for everyone he plays against. I think him say coming off the bench would be perfect and sometimes whilst you don't have end product, it's enough with the quality around you....
I'd say Zaha has improved since leaving us....
He has, but not enough to justify having bought him in the first place.
Wouldn't argue that but equally I'm not sure anyone on here thought he'd develop at all. Some players you see their steady progress because they play in the prem, others seem to just turn a corner overnight and you sign later in their careers. How good was Miki at 22/23?
Players development trajectory is totally unpredictable. Look at N'Zonzi today, spoken about as one of the best DM's in the world, who would have thought that during his spells in the PL?
Like Lallana?
I get your point but he was criminally underrated at Stoke.
Young Adam is really hitting his potential this season.He was good at Blackburn and very good at Stoke. I wouldn't have minded taking a punt on him, as he was leaving the latter on a free. As the poster before me said, extremely underrated player.
Castles says we want Saul and Griezmann. Saul would be perfect for a Mourinho team imo.
Another Zaha so no thanks. Memphis is twice as talented as them both but his attitude clearly stinks.
If we sign both Saul and Griez I'll need an IV drip to replenish.
Saul would be taking Herrera's place.
Just visit drip doctors. They've got you.
Yeah, really not the style of midfielder I'd say is the most necessary for us at this moment.
I love Herrera but there are few players we can't upgrade on, and he isn't one of those.
Replace Fellaini in the squad. But can't see us getting 2 from Atléti and it's more likely that Griezmann will come.
We need a third CM to add to Herrera and Pogba. The gulf between them and Fellaini is massive. Saul looks a real talent.
Would rather januzaj than traore. Traore has zero brains
Saúl would make a lot of sense for United, much more so than Griezmann, even though he's a lower profile player. If you break down the projected number of matches we'll play next season:
Premier League: 38
Europe: 8 (conservative estimate)
FA Cup + EFL Cup: 8 (rough estimate)
That's a low estimate of 56 games for the season, and given the intensity with which Ander plays, it's not good for his long term health to play for 50+ games per season - the risk of burnout would be too acute. Ditto Pogba - the need to protect him is even greater, and we should give him a breather from time to time. Our midfield depth beyond the two for the 8/10 positions is shocking (Fußballgott - persona non grata, Schneiderlin - will be sold when the right offer comes along, Fellaini - no need to elaborate). We have some young players (Fosu-Mensah as the defensive box-to-box and Pereira as the asymmetric hybrid 10), but it wouldn't be prudent to rely on them for consistent performance just yet. Saúl could easily step into the team, and we could mix and match him as an alternative to both Pogba and Ander. He could even supplant the latter given his box-to-box potential and superior technique on the ball, especially when he's on the move in space:
The likes of Madrid have about 5 really good options in Modrić, Kroos, Casemiro, Isco, Kovačić (even if we discount James in the left sided midfielder position), aside from the likes of Llorente on loan. As do a lot of the other European elite (the likes of Bayern and Barcelona will surely bolster their units in the coming months). About time we turned the midfield area into a real strength of the team, too - in terms of both quality and numbers, and it's not like we'll be going overboard (a criticism leveled against Madrid) with one quality addition beyond Pogba and Ander for two critical positions. The differential between them and say Fellaini is too big, so much so that it affects the rhythm of the entire team, and that needs to be rectified.
Premier League: 38
Europe: 8 (conservative estimate)
FA Cup + EFL Cup: 8 (rough estimate)
That's a low estimate of 56 games for the season, and given the intensity with which Ander plays, it's not good for his long term health to play for 50+ games per season - the risk of burnout would be too acute. Ditto Pogba - the need to protect him is even greater, and we should give him a breather from time to time. Our midfield depth beyond the two for the 8/10 positions is shocking (Fußballgott - persona non grata, Schneiderlin - will be sold when the right offer comes along, Fellaini - no need to elaborate). We have some young players (Fosu-Mensah as the defensive box-to-box and Pereira as the asymmetric hybrid 10), but it wouldn't be prudent to rely on them for consistent performance just yet. Saúl could easily step into the team, and we could mix and match him as an alternative to both Pogba and Ander. He could even supplant the latter given his box-to-box potential and superior technique on the ball, especially when he's on the move in space:
The likes of Madrid have about 5 really good options in Modrić, Kroos, Casemiro, Isco, Kovačić (even if we discount James in the left sided midfielder position), aside from the likes of Llorente on loan. As do a lot of the other European elite (the likes of Bayern and Barcelona will surely bolster their units in the coming months). About time we turned the midfield area into a real strength of the team, too - in terms of both quality and numbers, and it's not like we'll be going overboard (a criticism leveled against Madrid) with one quality addition beyond Pogba and Ander for two critical positions. The differential between them and say Fellaini is too big, so much so that it affects the rhythm of the entire team, and that needs to be rectified.
Oh, he is more than a talent, would instantly be the second best CM in the league after our very own Pogboom.
You seem to go in great depth when studying players, have you had a look at Naby Keita from RB Leipzig and Corentin Tolisso from Lyon? I've seen Keita twice and he looks immense, his abillity to combine for quick play, transition between defence - attack and ridiculous pace would be a handful for anybody.
I've only seen Tolisso once and can't remember much, but my French friend can't stop raving about him.
They would both be quite a lot cheaper than Saul which has one of those ridiculous Atletico release clauses if I'm not mistaken.
Don't get why you guys are linked so heavily with Griezmann. Don't see where you make room in your XI for him. Shoehorn him out wide? What does that mean for Martial and Mhkitaryan?
Doesn't seem to suit the way Mourinho sets up his teams at all.
Doesn't seem to suit the way Mourinho sets up his teams at all.
I think it's difficult finding a better player than Herrera right now for the box-to-box role. Unless someone like Modric is available, it won't be a great upgrade.
The likes of Pereira and Mensah should be given a chance as back-ups for Pogba and Herrera next season. If they can't perform, loan them out and find some quality backup, but let us give them a chance at least.
Right now we need a quality player to replace Carrick, that is the most important imo. Maybe some competition in the wide/striker position, as i'm not sure Lingard and Mata will be enough cover.
The likes of Pereira and Mensah should be given a chance as back-ups for Pogba and Herrera next season. If they can't perform, loan them out and find some quality backup, but let us give them a chance at least.
Right now we need a quality player to replace Carrick, that is the most important imo. Maybe some competition in the wide/striker position, as i'm not sure Lingard and Mata will be enough cover.
A front three of Martial, Zlatan and Mickey is all the quality we need, Griezmann is not needed imo and to accomodate him we would have to break up the 3 man midfield which is working so well atm.Err, I know nothing, TBH - most of the supposedly 'in depth' stuff is cack. Anyway, haven't been following Lyon and Tolisso of late, so dunno how much he's progressed, but I like Keita, a lot - mentioned him in passing in newbie forum, alongwith Man Utd Trigueros - who could be a more creative and skillful alternative to Ander. Keita would be a really good addition to the team - like you highlighted, he has it all as a high energy box-to-box, it's just that I'm an unapologetic and biased Saúl homer from his Spanish U19/U20 days alongside Óliver (
). Wrt. the money part, while it makes sense to be fiscally responsible, Saúl has the potential to be a standout box-to-box player of this generation, and has already evidenced a lot of great performances in La Liga and the Champions League - in Simeone's rigorous high press setup, too, so it shouldn't be a major concern given his age and the service we could get out of him. Plus, he's better on the ball (compared with Keita - who conversely quicker in short bursts when closing down opposition players).Saul will be incredibly difficult to get. He doesn't seem to want leaving Atletico and I think that his release clause is already too high (80m euros).
What do people (especially @Invictus ) think about the Dortmund's CM. Weigl looks a very good player on the making, but could it be too early to join us and could he replace efficiently Carrick (suit our style)?
What do people (especially @Invictus ) think about the Dortmund's CM. Weigl looks a very good player on the making, but could it be too early to join us and could he replace efficiently Carrick (suit our style)?
In a vacuum, I think Saul would be a good pickup and I completely agree with the overall theme of your post. The problem I'd have with this is the cost of acquiring someone like Saul. I don't know the exact numbers being bandied about in that column, but Saul's release clause is something like 80mm euros so I'm assuming he'd be around 60mm GBP and Griez would be ~85mm GBP? Maybe I'm being ignorant/naive, but based on just my viewings of Atletico, I've never considered Saul to be someone worth even remotely close to that amount...although he's undoubtedly a good player.
I agree that we absolutely need to bring in players with sufficient quality to push and spell Herrera/Pogba, but that's an absolute ton of money for another #8.
Traore was quite highly rated at Barca wasn't he? As people have said above, he's only 20 and was in a terrible team last year. Might be a good squad option, certainly better than delay imo
Never say never, mate!
http://www.skysports.com/football/n...co-madrid-as-long-as-diego-simeone-is-manager
The commitment doesn't seem to be indefinite, and unlike say Koke, Saúl isn't a dyed in the wool Colchonero.
Weigl won't leave till 2018 at the earliest - joining a new club just one season before the World Cup would be too risky. After the World Cup, we might see some movement (à la Özil/Khedira to Real Madrid), but a lot of Dortmund supporters believe he won't leave till 2020, so there's that. He will stay at Dortmund and further his development under Tuchel (who's perfect for him and has placed a lot of trust in him, even as a young player). As to whether he could play at United right now, I don't see why not - won't be an immediate Carrick replacement per se, and might have some growing pains - as any young player from a foreign league, but he has the in-game intelligence to make appropriate adjustments to his game. In terms of his skillset - United couldn't hope to sign a better heir to Carrick given Weigl's similarity to the likes of him and Busquets (apart from maybe Parades - who's more flamboyant on the ball, albeit less defensively astute).
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