Yup, main issue being that they're Liverpool. No sum of money or series of astute transfers can rid them of that.
Transfer Tweets - 2017/18
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Yup, main issue being that they're Liverpool. No sum of money or series of astute transfers can rid them of that.
I don't think for a second Liverpool would sign Dembele, hypothetically though what sort of price would they be looking at? Did he not cost over 100m to begin with?
The Scum are really improving that team of theirs. Keita and Fekir/Dembele would be a great summer for them - add a GK and they could win the title next season. And the scary part for me, is that that GK doesn't need to be world-beating - any kind of upgrade ont heir current keepers would massively improve them, it doesn't need to be a Neuer or a DDG.
It's Liverpool and the Premier League though.
All it takes is a media report linking our rivals with a couple of players and people take it as signed, sealed, and delivered.
99% of transfer links are pure bullshit.
Liverpool/City get linked with someone and it's mayhem. Fantasy XI's all over the shop. Drama queen meltdowns aplenty.
99% of transfer links are pure bullshit.
Liverpool/City get linked with someone and it's mayhem. Fantasy XI's all over the shop. Drama queen meltdowns aplenty.
You seem to know nothing about Liverpool. They aren't going to spend net £200m out of the blue.
Dembele will cost £100m+ (and is the biggest BS I've read, Barcelona are not going to spend £120m on him then sell him a year later).
What is more likely is Salah going for big money, and this money being used to fund Liverpool's transfer window like they have done with Coutinho.
Most likely is them seeing Dembele as a loan.
Barcelona are gonna loan Dembele to Liverpool??? Is that in the article or is that a hypothetical?
Keita is signed and sealed though. That is the best player who is coming to the the league this summer for sure. He is good enough for every midfield in the world and they got him for the odd 60m.
Plus, every big transfer during Klopp's time at Anfield is turning out to be great. They just need a good holding player in midfield and their first eleven is as good as anyone's in the Prem. Still a weak bench, which is why I can see them prioritizing a run at the league next season after the CL this season. See Dortmund in 2011/12 for comparison. They went out of the CL in the first half, then went on an 8-game-winning streak and ended the season with a record of 15 wins and 2 draws, only trumped by Heynckes' Bayern a year later with 16 wins and 1 draw.
Dembele ans Fekirfeck
I just got back from watching infinity wars to cry over our Chelsea loss, then I see this!!
Sounds like Salah is definitely off for a shit load of money though obviously I hope he stays.
That's a little skewed as if (as expected) we replace Valencia and Young with a couple of say 24 year olds the average age drops to just over 26. Swap Smalling with Bailly who's at least an equally talented defender and it reduces further.
I think in general we have a balanced squad age wise. You'd also like to think at least one out of Lindelof, Rashford & Martial will become a first team regular in the next 18 months.
Wow, didn't know the transfer window was over, I must have dozed off
Also Keita has been good for barely two seasons, he's a very good player I agree, but there is a fair bit of overrating going on atm
If a player is good enough for every midfield in the world then he doesn't go to Liverpool.
Clubs like Barca, Madrid, Bayern, don't make miscalculations like that.
If a bigger and richer club went after Keita he would not gave gone to Liverpool.
Hypothetical but I'd say it's most likely why Liverpool are interested. Why would Barcelona sell for less than the £130m they paid, why would Liverpool pay so much for someone who hasn't exactly proven themselves a banker of a consistent performer this season, and when they're pretty stacked in that area anyway?
I always thought Dembele was a weird Barcelona signing to be honest, especially for that amount of cash. He just never seemed like a Barca player to me, at all.
Of course it is a prediction, but not an unlikely one. City will not do much in the summer (where can they go realistically?), Spurs never spends big, Chelsea's transfer dealings are routinely terrible and Arsenal is gonna Arsenal. United will target some fullbacks, some decent midfielders and possibly Willian for RW. Savic may be the best player coming to the league out of that lot and he is not exactly Ballon d'Or winning potential nor more proven than Keita with just 1 good season under his belt.
I don't understand that logic. It's not like Mane wasn't good enough for every team in the Prem at Southampton before he signed for Liverpool. Salah would have been the perfect RW fit for Utd (even just in his Roma form, much more productive than Mata/Lingard) and yet, he went to Pool because of Utd miscalculating or whatever.
Kevin De Bruyne at Wolfsburg and Sane at Schalke are two other examples of everyone sleeping, mostly Bayern but also all the other big guns except for City. Everyone knew those two are stars in the making and in De Bruyne's case, he was already world class. You think Barca, Real, Bayern couldn't have paid €50m for Sane or €75m for De Bruyne?
We should be all in on a loan with option to buy if that's a possibility with dembele.
Oh you meant it as a prediction, felt like you were stating a fact which you were certain of.
What if a player who is brought in has a Salah like season and becomes the best player in the PL?
What if United decided to buy Dybala with Martial going the other way?
Don't get this over rating of players our rivals sign. I think many on here are having sleepless nights worrying about how good Keita could potentially be although they have not seen him kick a ball.
That’s just not true. They weren’t sleeping, but not willing to spend the necessary money. They even had an agreement with de Bruyne, but Wolfsburg were holding out for more money (and got it).
Nice, I hadn't seen the reports today re: Savic and Sandro. They would add great quality, and likely signal a move to a midfield 3 (can't see Pogba and Savic competing for the same spot?).
This genuinely cracked me up.
Thank you.On a more serious note, considering the difficulties we're having with RW, if there is the slightest possibility that Ousmane Dembele is available, we'd be absolutely mad not to be in for him.
I think we could bring in Fabinho, Fred, Sandro, Neves, Alderweireld, RW??
Fabinho can play MF and RB
Fred to replace Fellanai
Neves to set the pace in a 433.
Martial----Lukaku----Sanchez
Pogba-----Mattic------Neves
Sandro--Alderweireld--Baily--Fabinho
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it looks good in my head but would it work... I expect some movement early due to the world cup.
Fabinho can play MF and RB
Fred to replace Fellanai
Neves to set the pace in a 433.
Martial----Lukaku----Sanchez
Pogba-----Mattic------Neves
Sandro--Alderweireld--Baily--Fabinho
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it looks good in my head but would it work... I expect some movement early due to the world cup.
Chelsea, Liverpool, United and Atletico - he has his bases well covered.
Every summer Man Utd goes out, splashes the cash, gets all the expensive names after the biggest sagas of the summer. Everyone boards the hype train, talks about winning the league etc. Not only this season but also last season after getting Pogba. The reality is, most signings deliver way worse than expected and you have to wonder if future transfers really are what will make this team challenge for the biggest trophies.
The big money signings of other teams deliver much better, more consistent and above what was expected of them. Of course not everyone works out, there are also Benteke, Stones and Sissoko. But those are the outliers in between the majority of big signings showing their worth right away (Salah, Jesus, Sane, Mane, Van Dijk, De Bruyne, Walker etc.).
Therefore, it is not outlandish to predict Keita will be an instant hit at Pool and we hear the same tirades about Dybala or some other guy again:
- he is inconsistent
- Jose doesn't know his best position
- he only works in a certain system
- he has just been here for 15 months
- he is wasted in that position/on the right wing
- should be Martial instead of him
- he is mentally bad
- he sucks at finishing
- his decision-making needs improving
Kinda sad that I can name a wave of sentences about an underwhelming signing we will see without a doubt on the next case and which have applied to every offensive player in the past. And it was not even me posting that stuff at the player performance threads, tons of other people did it.
Didn't want this to be a negative rant about MUFC transfers
. Keita is a hugely skilled player, still raw and yet consistent, got a high engine and is perfect for Klopp football. He has some absolute belters in him (like Pogba did) and is a walking red cardHow the feck is that not miscalculation? Bayern always brag about being able to make a 80-100m transfer, yet they didn't do it for the next best midfielder in the world and let him leave the league. They rather spent their money on fifteen box-to-box midfielders they don't even need. It reminds me of Conte complaining over funds at Chelsea when he has 60m Morata, 40m Bakayoko and 40m Drinkwater. Those would have been 140m in the last summer to spend on a proper top player.
Unless they sign a goalkeeper, CB, RB a new midfield and backup striker, Liverpool do not concern me. We will be better again next season.
We should be worried about what Man City are doing.
We should be worried about what Man City are doing.
No need to worry about Man City. It's just our inconsistently that we need to worry about it, adding full backs, CM, perhaps CB and RW would make us much stronger but just need to improve our inconsistently form to be more consistent in the league first. in 2018 league, United is only behind City by 2 points which I thought is good enough to win the league if we continue or improve our consistent form next season. December periods is what killed us but hopefully, we won't repeat this again next season.
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@ParisUnited6 | Tottenham Hotspur have agreed a deal in principle with @FulhamFC over the transfer of Ryan Sessegnon and have also reached an agreement with the player over personal terms. #THFC
@ParisUnited6 | Tottenham Hotspur have agreed a deal in principle with @FulhamFC over the transfer of Ryan Sessegnon and have also reached an agreement with the player over personal terms. #THFC
Yes of course, we need to worry about ourselves as well.
Well, when Mané did go at Liverpool, Sanchez, Hazard, Alli and Martial were already in the big PL clubs so that's maybe why they weren't interested... Perhaps he wasn't good enough for any PL team.
About KDB and Sané
Bayern and PSG did an offer for KDB. Bayern in particular were ok with kdb but didn't want to put more than the 1st agreement. Barca had Iniesta and Real was full in the midfield. KDB didn't have a place in their 11. Why would they buy him?
Sané is definitely not the same case like you said. He is still a talented young player who maybe will become class but not some kind of genius or the type of players you risk everything to have like Neymar, Asensio, Isco, Gotze or Mbappé. He was good, ok but so were Brandt, Draxler, Douglas Costa, and now are Pulisic, Malcolm, Guedes, B. Silva...
Plus:
- Real had Asensio, Vasquez, Bale, Isco...
- Barca had Neymar and players from the academy for the bench
- Bayern had Ribery + Costa and are way more complicated when we talk about 50M. Actually Rummenigge has said the club opted not to sign him "because of doubts over whether he would fit into the side and a reluctance to "stockpile" players"
2 years later I'm not sure Barca and Real have regrets. Dembele and Asensio are the wonderkids. They're probably thinking about how bring the last one: MBappé. Ribery is still top class.
Anyway we don't know if Keita can be a world class good enough for the biggest clubs. Is he better than Rabiot, Weigl, Goretza, Kondogbia or Savic ? What we know is that Barca was on Verratti, Coutinho and Ceballos last year, before Paulinho. Madrid bought Ceballos (+Kovacic and Llorente) and Bayern brought Rudy, Tolisso and now Goretza plus has Thiago.
Maybe Chelsea, MU, Tott or Arsenal were miscalculating something but it seems like the real tops clubs like Atletico, Bayern, FCB, RM, Juve were just not interested
I hope we are interested in Fekir, suited to the prem and his dribbling is drool worthy
I Know we can’t sign everyone, but it is genuinely baffling when we seemingly aren’t in for or don’t go all in for players that would be quality buys.
It would be laughable if we allowed Sessegnon to go to bloody Spurs. What only for us to want to fork out three times what they pay to buy him in a few years time?
It would be laughable if we allowed Sessegnon to go to bloody Spurs. What only for us to want to fork out three times what they pay to buy him in a few years time?
Pogba? Sanchez?
Good move for Ryan tbh, he'll flourish at Spurs imo.
Why would it be necessarily a question of United allowing him to go to Spurs (assuming there's any truth in the tweet)?
Might not Sessegnon just prefer Spurs for good reasons, regardless of any United interest?
What’s your point? I didn’t say we never signed anyone, did I? Plenty would argue we’d be better off if we didn’t sign Sanchez anyway.
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What’s so baffling then?
Sorry I’m confused, are you perfectly content every summer with our transfer business and never see players go to rivals and wonder why we weren’t in for them, especially when we’ve got holes in our squad that they could fix?
You think a 17 year old Championship player will fix left-back for us just because he's hyped?
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