Transfer Tweets - 2017/18

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If we did a Kroos/Pogba swap then I think Jose would just get a proper #10 and play his 4-2-3-1, rather than buying another unorthodox midfielder who is hard to fit in, in a 4-3-3 he doesn't really want to use. The issue with Matic would still be there though, him and Kroos are too immobile to work as a double pivot IMO, both have been best when playing with a more mobile and dynamic player alongside them in recent times.

It doesn't have to be a symmetric formation and Kroos has decent mobility. Lack of it is overstated. He also more than makes up for that with is awareness, positioning and of course passing. Kroos would be an excellent signing imo. Not the one we're going to make unfortunately.
 


"It is understood Madrid have reiterated their interest in David de Gea and are also monitoring Paul Pogba and Anthony Martial's situations. Gareth Bale is believed to be among the players Real have offered United first refusal on as both clubs prepare to freshen up their squads.
Real are mindful of United’s long-standing admiration for Bale and desire to preferably sign two central midfielders ahead of next season. They have intimated they could be amenable to offering Luka Modric or Toni Kroos, two players whom United have considered signing in the past, in a de facto swap deal."


Yeah sure, take 3 of our best players and give us 1 injury prone 1 who doesn't want to come to united and 1 who is most likely to play in the matic role.
 
Kroos for DDG is a strange one. I can't decide if it would be a good deal or not.

Well that depends. If David really really wants to go then it would make sense to take one the best Real's players and a player that would be perfect for us. If De Gea wants to go back to Spain for personal reasons then I say let him go with a blessing. It would be a bit shit from our side if we kept a player from going back to his own country to play for the biggest club in the world.

On the other hand, if Dave is happy to stay at Man Utd for the foreseeable future then there isn't a player or a price I'd sell him for. Dave proably has at least another 10 season in him and could well be considered GOAT at the end of his career. I mean people are already comparing him to the greatest at only 27 and rightly so.
 
They are offering us a crock and a player who will be 33 in September in exchange for arguably the 3 brightest talents in our squad who all have their best years ahead of them, typical Madrid. :lol: Kroos is the only one worth considering and even then I can't see him working with a DM like Matic, he needs someone more dynamic and mobile with him.
Aye, that'd go down as one of the worst deals imaginable for us :lol: Kroos I'd take but not sure it's worth taking it at the expense of one of our own.
 


"It is understood Madrid have reiterated their interest in David de Gea and are also monitoring Paul Pogba and Anthony Martial's situations. Gareth Bale is believed to be among the players Real have offered United first refusal on as both clubs prepare to freshen up their squads.
Real are mindful of United’s long-standing admiration for Bale and desire to preferably sign two central midfielders ahead of next season. They have intimated they could be amenable to offering Luka Modric or Toni Kroos, two players whom United have considered signing in the past, in a de facto swap deal."

They can have Old Trafford while they're at it.
 
If It's Asensio for Martial then I'm all for it, bring it on.
Anything else, not really.
Wouldn't swap De Gea for any of their players. Kroos is the best midfielder in the world but I wouldn't want us to keep signing players who achieved everything somewhere else (Di Maria, Schweinsteiger).
Bale is not an option, Isco? I don't think he'd strive in the type of football we play.
 


"It is understood Madrid have reiterated their interest in David de Gea and are also monitoring Paul Pogba and Anthony Martial's situations. Gareth Bale is believed to be among the players Real have offered United first refusal on as both clubs prepare to freshen up their squads.
Real are mindful of United’s long-standing admiration for Bale and desire to preferably sign two central midfielders ahead of next season. They have intimated they could be amenable to offering Luka Modric or Toni Kroos, two players whom United have considered signing in the past, in a de facto swap deal."

Hopefully, we told them to do one, if the news are true. If Jose agrees to Real's offer, he needs to be sacked right there on the spot. Most probably, it is all just bullshife by Luckhurst.
 
Why are people falling for these made up rumors about Bale? The relationship between Utd and Madrid is in the shitter. Firstly the De Gea fax botch job and then the nonsense with Morata where we either led Madrid on with Lukaku as our top target, or Madrid tried to get us to pay a massive fee so we went after Lukaku.
 
Why are people falling for these made up rumors about Bale? The relationship between Utd and Madrid is in the shitter. Firstly the De Gea fax botch job and then the nonsense with Morata where we either led Madrid on with Lukaku as our top target, or Madrid tried to get us to pay a massive fee so we went after Lukaku.

Unlike De Gea (where we were reluctant to sell) or Morata (where Madrid were reluctant to sell), I imagine they'll be absolutely desperate to flog Bale this summer.
 
Outside of Sunday league when have 2 teams done a 3 for 3 swap deal?

Don't like the sound of that Ghoulam with his injuries. Be nice to have a left back who isn't made of crisps.
 
Unlike De Gea (where we were reluctant to sell) or Morata (where Madrid were reluctant to sell), I imagine they'll be absolutely desperate to flog Bale this summer.

Real Madrid want to sell a crock...so I guess Man Utd will just bend over and take it then!

The manager himself said that no other attackers are coming in. Unless there is some concrete news it's sensible to assume that's the case. Luckhurst is garbage tier for transfer news, he basically throws as much out there as he can so he will get a few right through averages.

I believe the Ghoulam rumours because Bouhafsi is very very reliable. Anything Luckhurst comes out with is either made up, or stolen from other more reliable people.
 
I would be happy if we never had any transfer dealings with Madrid ever.
 
I believe the Ghoulam rumours because Bouhafsi is very very reliable. Anything Luckhurst comes out with is either made up, or stolen from other more reliable people.

I have no desire to go around the internet defending Sam Luckhurst - he's got plenty wrong in the past. In fairness to him though, while Bouhfasi and Di Marzio were pushing the 'Fabinho to United' line last summer, he (along with Ogden and Castles) always insisted that Matic/Dier were the holding-midfield targets (much to the consternation of many on here). I don't need to tell you who had the better information/sources there.
 
I have no desire to go around the internet defending Sam Luckhurst - he's got plenty wrong in the past. In fairness to him though, while Bouhfasi and Di Marzio were pushing the 'Fabinho to United' line last summer, he (along with Ogden and Castles) always insisted that Matic/Dier were the holding-midfield targets (much to the consternation of many on here). I don't need to tell you who had the better information/sources there.

Di Marzio was not pushing the Fabinho line. He said that United were interested but never followed up on the interest.

Just to show how accurate Di Marzio is, have a look at the following.

http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/juventus-new-contacts-for-matuidi-he-is-again-an-option

Not only did he put Matic as favourite to join United just before he signed, but he also had Matuidi to Juventus as a consequence of it. Di Marzio has connections to agents and this is why he is so reliable...he was also the one that broke the Alexis Sanchez deal while everyone else was saying he was City bound.
 
I still think that De Gea is option 1 of Madrid, despite the rumors of Alisson, however, since Zidane's continuity is almost assured, it could happen that he continues defending Keylor.
Logically the performance of David in the world cup would have much to do.
The option of Kroos or Modric seems difficult but not impossible. If they win the champions they could consider that their cycle in Madrid is over, and especially Kroos look for a good contract and another challenge.
The press in Madrid says that it will be easy to find a buyer for Bale and that Barnett met with Florentino last week to ask for an exit (that was not said by the press but an ITK of Madrid), and Florentino would ask for 140 million euros, although surely he would be more than happy getting the investment back.

Pogba earns too much without deserving it and I doubt that Madrid will deal with Raiola. I would add Varane to the list
 
If we did a Kroos/Pogba swap then I think Jose would just get a proper #10 and play his 4-2-3-1, rather than buying another unorthodox midfielder who is hard to fit in, in a 4-3-3 he doesn't really want to use. The issue with Matic would still be there though, him and Kroos are too immobile to work as a double pivot IMO, both have been best when playing with a more mobile and dynamic player alongside them in recent times.

See that's the issue with the 4231 he's trying to implement, there is no player out there that would add what is needed alongside Matic to make it work. Kroos I feel would be almost perfect in an attacking sense, but defensively he's quite Carrick like in that he is more about protecting space and reading the game than actually making tackles and tracking runners.
 
It doesn't have to be a symmetric formation and Kroos has decent mobility. Lack of it is overstated. He also more than makes up for that with is awareness, positioning and of course passing. Kroos would be an excellent signing imo. Not the one we're going to make unfortunately.

I'm not doubting Kroos' ability or reading of the game, but he's thrived at Real Madrid with Casemiro as his leg man, similar to how Pirlo was always partnered with high energy, ground covering CM's at Milan and Juve, putting him with a DM as immobile and slow across the pitch as Matic wouldn't be a wise fit IMO.

Aye, that'd go down as one of the worst deals imaginable for us :lol: Kroos I'd take but not sure it's worth taking it at the expense of one of our own.

Yeah, I'd not have an issue with a straight fee deal for Kroos but I don't want us getting rid of any of our best young players or our keeper.

See that's the issue with the 4231 he's trying to implement, there is no player out there that would add what is needed alongside Matic to make it work. Kroos I feel would be almost perfect in an attacking sense, but defensively he's quite Carrick like in that he is more about protecting space and reading the game than actually making tackles and tracking runners.

That's true, all of the focus is on Pogba's flaws for certain systems, but Matic is just as difficult to work around.
 
Pogba for Kroos? No thanks.

Casemiro does the running and hassling for Kroos. We have no one in a similar mold to do it for Pogba. Give Pogba the same Platform then judge him.
 


"It is understood Madrid have reiterated their interest in David de Gea and are also monitoring Paul Pogba and Anthony Martial's situations. Gareth Bale is believed to be among the players Real have offered United first refusal on as both clubs prepare to freshen up their squads.
Real are mindful of United’s long-standing admiration for Bale and desire to preferably sign two central midfielders ahead of next season. They have intimated they could be amenable to offering Luka Modric or Toni Kroos, two players whom United have considered signing in the past, in a de facto swap deal."

Pretty bad deal if you ask me. Pogba,Martial and DDG - all hungry young players who is yet to hit the peak for Bale, Kroos and Modric - all of them has won pretty much everything and now looking for a retirement home.

One of Isco , Kroos , Casemiro and then we are talking .
 
If the club swapped Pogba and Martial for Bale I think i'd give up football forever TBH
 
I still think that De Gea is option 1 of Madrid, despite the rumors of Alisson, however, since Zidane's continuity is almost assured, it could happen that he continues defending Keylor.
Logically the performance of David in the world cup would have much to do.
The option of Kroos or Modric seems difficult but not impossible. If they win the champions they could consider that their cycle in Madrid is over, and especially Kroos look for a good contract and another challenge.
The press in Madrid says that it will be easy to find a buyer for Bale and that Barnett met with Florentino last week to ask for an exit (that was not said by the press but an ITK of Madrid), and Florentino would ask for 140 million euros, although surely he would be more than happy getting the investment back.

Pogba earns too much without deserving it and I doubt that Madrid will deal with Raiola. I would add Varane to the list
I can honestly seeing you wait for Courtois to see out his contract and get him for no transfer fee. The only way you get DDG is a straight swap for Bale and I highly doubt we'd pay Bale wage demands, or feel he's a £100m player as to what we value DDG at.

This apparent relaxed approach to letting Kroos or Modric go means you'll have to replace them, that won't be cheap neither.
 
Di Marzio was not pushing the Fabinho line. He said that United were interested but never followed up on the interest.

Incorrect. This, from Di Marzio on 24th June 2017, said we had already made a €50m bid, that talks were ongoing and that the player was at that time "very close" to joining us.

http://gianlucadimarzio.com/en/manchester-united-is-very-close-to-fabinho

Bouhafsi said the player was one of our "priorities of the transfer window". I'd therefore take the Ghoulam tweet/story above with a pinch of salt. Nobody is even remotely infallible when it comes to this stuff.
 
Real press can bluster all they want. Real are going to take a hit on his transfer.
I remember this time last year, all the talk as that James would be sold for €80m.
 
Bale for anything under £60m would be decent business in my opinion. The issue is he will likely replace Martial in the squad which would be gutting.
 

https://www.elconfidencial.com/depo...ester-united-salida-madrid-tottenham_1544934/

"The resignation of Bale: he has already assumed that he is out of Real Madrid
The departure of Bale is getting closer and, except for unexpected twist, all the pieces are being placed for his return to England, Manchester United more specifically" (translated by Google)


You can guarantee those who don't want Bale will be the same ones questioning why we didn't sign him if he subsequently fires someone like Chelsea to the league title next year

Another attacker might not have been on the agenda but if he's available we can't allow him to join a PL rival
 
Bale for anything under £60m would be decent business in my opinion. The issue is he will likely replace Martial in the squad which would be gutting.

If Martial is going to be out of the team it's going to be due to Rashford or more likely Sanchez. Mata will be the one that will struggle for game time more than anyone should Bale arrive as he'll take his position on the right
 
You can guarantee those who don't want Bale will be the same ones questioning why we didn't sign him if he subsequently fires someone like Chelsea to the league title next year

Another attacker might not have been on the agenda but if he's available we can't allow him to join a PL rival


He'd have to stay fit for more than five minutes first, something he hasn't managed for three seasons now. He's a physical wreck.
 
You can guarantee those who don't want Bale will be the same ones questioning why we didn't sign him if he subsequently fires someone like Chelsea to the league title next year

Another attacker might not have been on the agenda but if he's available we can't allow him to join a PL rival

Nonsense.
 
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