Christ, we'd be very foolish to be targeting Ghoulam right now. If he hadn't suffered any of those two injuries, I'd say go for broke and get him but now, jesus....
Transfer Tweets - 2017/18
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What if the younger player decides to leave after 4 years?
What if he don't fit in?
What if he does not become the player you thought he would?
Buying a 28/29 yr old player is essential in a team, what you get with a 28/29 yr old is a proven track record not potential that may come to nothing after 3-4 years of investment and waiting.
We have got players in our squad with great potential but you know what, we have also had other players with great potential that have fallen by the way.
At 29 is vidal still better than anything we have in midfield?
When did this panic develop over having to replace players after 3 or 4 years?
Did I miss something?
Did I miss something?
Vidal is not 29. You can have him though.
40 million is something woody would pay I reckon?
By younger , I mean players under 26 who are at prime, not some 19/20 year old who has just shown potential. Three questions you asked, that is anyway applicable for every old player as well. In addition to that, old players tend to struggle to comeback from injuries more than younger ones.
29 year old Vidal might be good addition to the team, but 26 year old Eriksen/Kroos/Thiago (just an example) would be better addition. Ever wonder why Vidal has not featured as much this season or as to why bayern will let him go at the first place?
Classic Spurs move, probably the Spursiest move ever. They are to Ajax what Liverpool are to Southampton. Could see that coming from a mile.
Vidal turns 31 next month.
Thank you for posting this.
I would not want to pay a kings ransom for Vidal but he would be our best CM at the moment.
Injury record is among the best in Europe.
Nope.
That is par for the course.
Expect to be signing 2-3 first team players per season...absolutely minimum 2
And there’s no doubt we need to sign at this rate to challenge for the PL and CL.
He would be a ridiculous signing on anything other than a free and reasonable wages.
really? his performances are still up there and as seen a few posts above his injury record has been great since he did he knee in. And again as other posters have said, he'd be our best CM along with Poggy.
He wouldnt. He is closer to being ready for China then to play for us, unless you want to fight for top 4. prime example of a player we shouldnt target
like Zlatan, IF he came he'd prove alot of you feckers wrong.
Dont think so. Zlatan has a calm private life and was barely injured. Plus he had Jose here and the way he played wasnt intensive. Vidal is quite the opposite, drinking and partying like a college student. Plus injuries and age catching up with his energetic play style. Bayern want rid of him for a reason. He will be useless in a year or two
Bayern have Goretzka as his replacement, that's why they're willing to let him go.
Thats just another way in saying they replaced him with someone better. That doesnt exclude the decision to let him go and get an upgrade. We shouldnt buy washed up players, but buy the Goretzkas. If Vidal was great, they would keep him. But they want to get rid really and not one fan will complain or be sad
That's a very simplistic way of putting it without context. Goretzka is German, young and the next big German talent, of course Bayern were always going to try to sign him, just like we would with any top young English talent that we could sign. That doesn't invalidate Vidal's actual ability or performance level, which is still high. I'm sure we tried to get Goretzka on a free signing, just like most top clubs out there. But we didn't stand a chance with Bayern as competition. No one's suggesting Vidal as a long term option for us. But anyone who thinks that Vidal can't be a good contributor for us if we do decide to sign him, clearly hasn't watched him play much past couple seasons.
We are both speculating. Thats one way to look at it. Oh we have Goretka now, lets sell Vidal. Or they wanted a new midfielder anyway and it coincided perfectly with replacing Vidal for a free Goretzka. It is not a secret that Bayern arent happy with his conduct off the field.
Fact is he is surplus to requirements and hasnt been great this season, same goes for Chile. Vidal on a free with decent wages would be fine for 2 years. Paying a nice fee on top of his star wages on a 3 year contract? No thanks. Box to box midfielders decline quickly, especially players with an unprofessional lifestyle.
He has had some decent big game outings but he's not a great performer week in and week out anymore, he's going to be 31 with a dwindling engine, and that's a problem when the bulk of your game is based on your engine, there's no way he's a good fit for this United side, we don't need a midfield with two 30 year olds in it and neither of whom has the engine required or the ability to control a game or dictate the tempo. Like I say on a free he'd be an ok squad addition for a couple of seasons, but not at £40M and feck knows how much a week he'd be wanting. We don't need other teams leftover has-beens like Vidal and Bale, we should be getting top players either in their prime or on the cusp of becoming top level players.
Vidal has his problems or had his problems, but reading some posts it sounds like he's some alcoholic who can barely stand on his two feet.
Vidal had a car crash in 2015 and there were unconfirmed reports that he attended a training session with smell of alcohol on his breath.
Even Sampoli talked about his problems with alcohol two years back.
But since then he's been rather clean except for one or two unconfirmed reports.
Vidal has been doing well with Bayern Munich, a strictly run club and as far as I know, he hasn’t gotten into any trouble there for such unprofessional behavior. Also he didn’t seem to have such problems at Juventus, another tightly run ship. Maybe he is like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, switching in this aspect between club and NT. Unless we get stories from his club career, which is where he spends most of his time, I wouldn’t conclude that Vidal is an alcoholic
And if Bayern were not happy with his behavior, they would have sold him the first chance they got.
Instead Heynckes has said that he would like to see Vidal stay.
These are some of his quotes :
Feb 2018 : "Arturo is a guaranteed starter for me. He doesn't need to worry about his place. He is a class player who we need in the big games."
January 2018 : "We will not sell Vidal"
This idea of him being an alcoholic crock is largely false.
Although I agree that he is a bit old for a B2B, if we decide not to sign him, it shouldn't be because of his drinking problems or his injury record.
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Vidal is still a quality player and his lifestyle doesn't seem to affect his perfomances, so it's not that big of a problem.
But i think it would be a bit nuts to fork up the rumoured 40m for a player you might only squeeze one really good year out of. And considering our lack of cohesion and chemistry in the team, adding players for short term might not be beneficial.
But i think it would be a bit nuts to fork up the rumoured 40m for a player you might only squeeze one really good year out of. And considering our lack of cohesion and chemistry in the team, adding players for short term might not be beneficial.
I'd stay away from Bayern players, Hargreaves and Schweinsteiger were supposed to be the answers to our midfield problems, let's not make it 3! If Bayern want to keep a player they tend to do so, and as soon as they seem willing to part ways you just know there's an issue with the player.
Bayern Munich are probably the shrewdest club with regards to transfers in and out, let's not get bitten again.
Bayern Munich are probably the shrewdest club with regards to transfers in and out, let's not get bitten again.
Why isn't there more talk about Matthijs de Ligt? Still just a kid but already one of the best defenders in the eredivisie.
Don't think Mourinho wants another "project".
Is Umtiti really interested in coming here or is he just looking for bigger pay deal from Barca.
There is talk, find his thread. I am on the hype train since the EL final
New deal of course, dont be fooled by his scripted answers. He is just telling the Barca board to pay up
"It is understood Madrid have reiterated their interest in David de Gea and are also monitoring Paul Pogba and Anthony Martial's situations. Gareth Bale is believed to be among the players Real have offered United first refusal on as both clubs prepare to freshen up their squads.
Real are mindful of United’s long-standing admiration for Bale and desire to preferably sign two central midfielders ahead of next season. They have intimated they could be amenable to offering Luka Modric or Toni Kroos, two players whom United have considered signing in the past, in a de facto swap deal."
Kroos is the only one I'd want, although I think Modric could elevate us to having a chance at catching City it wouldn't be long term enough for me.
Kroos for Pogba and buy Savic...
I could live with that.
I could live with that.
They are offering us a crock and a player who will be 33 in September in exchange for arguably the 3 brightest talents in our squad who all have their best years ahead of them, typical Madrid. 
Kroos is the only one worth considering and even then I can't see him working with a DM like Matic, he needs someone more dynamic and mobile with him.
Kroos is the only one worth considering and even then I can't see him working with a DM like Matic, he needs someone more dynamic and mobile with him.They are offering us a crock and a player who will be 33 in September in exchange for arguably the 3 brightest talents in our squad who all have their best years ahead of them, typical Madrid.
Agree with Maxi here Kroos for Pogba and buying SMS would be massive for our midfield. Although I've got to say I'd rather just buy Kroos and keep Pogba.
Stuart Brennan: "Manchester City will NOT make a move for Isco this summer."
Pogba is class but I think him and SMS are very similar. But SMS would probably be better suited what Jose wants.
But yeah. If we can just get Kroos it would be fecking unreal. Exactly what we need imo. Although I can't see it happening without either De Gea or Pogba going the other way. Unless Perez is really fecking stupid - which he is not, unfortunately.
If any of these are true, it sounds like our summer transfer plans are essentially just find the oldest or most unfit players available and even better if they fit both categories.
Kroos for DDG is a strange one. I can't decide if it would be a good deal or not.
If we get rid of all our best young players and replace them with although world class short term options they can do one and so can Mourinho. Sanchez wages are going to cause a tipple effect at contract renewal as it is, having Bale also on stupid money will just make that worse.
If we did a Kroos/Pogba swap then I think Jose would just get a proper #10 and play his 4-2-3-1, rather than buying another unorthodox midfielder who is hard to fit in, in a 4-3-3 he doesn't really want to use. The issue with Matic would still be there though, him and Kroos are too immobile to work as a double pivot IMO, both have been best when playing with a more mobile and dynamic player alongside them in recent times.
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