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When the Glazer family took control at Manchester United in 2005, they did so against a backdrop of protest and cynicism. Perceived as know-nothing foreign owners with their eyes purely on profits and not on the ball, it was feared that they would burden the club with debt - and maybe even destroy it.

Six years later and some of the fears have been realised. Latest figures show that United have debts of £478million on their books, while a further £369m has been spent in that period on loan interest and fees - from the club's coffers.

That interest, supporters argue, should have been spent on players.
Marshalled by the 'Green and Gold' campaign, fans have protested about steep hikes in ticket prices, about the Glazer-imposed scheme that initially made the purchasing of all cup tickets mandatory for season-ticket holders, and about the treatment of some supporters who have persisted in protesting.

Only last week, a 27-year-old trainee social worker and season-ticket holder, Carly Lyes, claimed that she had been the subject of 'horrific treatment' for displaying a 'Love United Hate Glazer' banner at Old Trafford last month.

After refusing to hand over her flag, she was taken to a cell in the stadium and then to a police station before being released without charge. A club spokesman said she infringed the ground rules of the stadium and was 'obstructive and aggressive'.

All these ingredients - debt, ticket prices, the remoteness of the owners and a perception that they do not care about 'ordinary' fans - have led to a heady cocktail of animosity towards the Americans.

Yet on Saturday night at Wembley, United took on Barcelona as they contested their third Champions League final in four years. They have won the Premier League title in four of the past five seasons and the League Cup three times since the Glazers arrived.

And for all the talk about steep prices, Old Trafford has been packed at more than 99 per cent capacity for years, with average gates of more than 75,000 people per game - or 15,000 higher than their next closest challengers, Arsenal.

It might also come as a surprise to some that for all their debt, United have cash in the bank. A lot of cash. This summer their bank balance will reach an all-time peak of about £170m, and that money might bankroll the biggest summer spending spree United have ever had.

In some part, this is down to the biggest growth area in United's business activities; not selling tickets or the income from TV rights, but commercial deals with dozens of companies who pay top dollar to be associated with the club.

The names of the players linked to United read like a Who's Who of transfer targets from the game: from Wesley Sneijder, Alexis Sanchez and David de Gea to Ashley Young, Jack Rodwell, Charlie Adam and Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain - about £130m of talent in total. And United manager Sir Alex Ferguson can afford to buy them.

He is already looking to seal a £14m deal for Young, whom he sees as a successor to Ryan Giggs, before the Aston Villa player is selected for England against Switzerland at Wembley on Saturday.

Equally, should a 'marquee' name come on to the market, a single player who would command a fee in excess of the English record £50m that Chelsea paid for Fernando Torres, then that player, too, would be within reach.

Some reports have suggested that Cristiano Ronaldo, who left United for Real Madrid for £80m two years ago, might be one such player, although sources in Spain say it is unlikely. But Neymar, the 19-yea-rold Santos striker who thrilled for Brazil against Scotland at the Emirates recently, would be well within United's price range, as would most players, barring Barca superstar Lionel Messi.

What is certain is that Ferguson wants a goalkeeper to replace Edwin van der Sar, who played his last game for United in last night's Champions League final at Wembley.

It has been assumed that De Gea, a 20-year-old Spaniard with a price tag of almost £18m, will soon move from Atletico Madrid to United. But should that deal not happen, Van der Sar has recommended a Dutch compatriot, 28-year-old Maarten Stekelenburg of Ajax, as an alternative. He would cost about £12m.

Of similar urgency to Ferguson is finding long-term replacements for Paul Scholes and Giggs, which is where Young and a host of other midfielders from home and abroad come into the equation.

Sneijder, 26, was a key part of the Holland team who reached last year's World Cup final in South Africa and although he has said in recent days that he is not thinking about leaving Internazionale, things change quickly in football.

His sole focus until the end of this weekend will be the Milan club's Coppa Italia final today against Palermo. After that, he might well look further afield and, with a price tag of £35m, he is easily within Ferguson's summer budget.
Young has made it plain by deed if not word that he does not see a long-term future at Aston Villa by turning down a contract extension.

The England winger-cum-striker has a year left on his deal at Villa Park and Ferguson feels he will be able to sign him for a relatively knock-down price of about £14m.

Another man with the same price tag is Jack Rodwell at Everton, who are in no situation to turn down decent offers. Blackpool, relegated from the Premier League after just one season, could cash in on Adam for upwards of £8m, perhaps more if a bidding war between clubs escalates the price.
An intriguing possibility is that Ferguson will renew his interest in a young, left-sided Welshman to replace his 37-year-old left-sided Welshman Giggs, namely Tottenham's Gareth Bale.

A gem already at 21, he fits the profile of being the kind of young, pacy (and sensible) player that Ferguson admires. The only drawback would be cost, at upwards of £30m, but money should not be an obstacle this year
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For that reason, all manner of players come into the reckoning, from Sanchez, the 22-year-old Chilean wide man now at Udinese (£30m), to the 18-year-old French centre-half Raphael Varane (currently with Lens, who want about £9m), to Oxlade-Chamberlain, 17, the latest Southampton wonderkid from the same Saints academy that produced Wayne Bridge, Theo Walcott and Bale among others. He could be available for upwards of £10m.
United's commercial income has accelerated since the Glazers arrived and sought partners from Singha Beer to Turkish Airlines, Smirnoff to Epson, DHL and numerous telecommunications firms.

Collectively, they paid £40m in 2010-11 (above and beyond 'toprank' cash from Aon and Nike) to be associated with the club, and spent another £80m on marketing campaigns to promote their associations. In another few years, United will likely have an official cola partner (Coke or Pepsi), energy partner, an electronics partner and fridge partner, you name it.

Their marketing experts are also working on ways to 'monetise' their online fanbase, including 14m-plus 'followers' on Twitter, and how to make more on match day, perhaps via packages for the 'uber-rich' involving helicopter to the ground, limo transfer across the car park, private lift to a suite and Michelin dining during the match.

More immediately, Sir Alex will be pondering how to spend money, and the Glazers wondering what to do with what is left over, including clearing some of that debt.


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Can't say Young excites me, but I'm sure he will be a valuable squad player and option on the left. Im sure we are going to make one huge signing this year though.
 
De Gea, Varane, Young, Sniejder/Modric :drool:
 
That would be perfect. I'm sure De Gea and Young are already done deals. Add Modric and Varane to that list and we'll have some team :drool:

That is not really something to cream yourself over is it? We don't know much of Varane, he is not likely to play much. De Gea is a promising young keeper, not an upgrade from an old VDS though. Young is nothing exceptional, we already got 3 wingers better than him at the club. Modric/Sneijder is the only pair I'd be happy about, especially the latter since I don't rate the small Modric that high. I have higher hopes in Fergie signings this summer.
 
Didnt Mr. Mujac also say a few weeks back that the club had been sold ?
He was sure because some steward told him.
 
That is not really something to cream yourself over is it? We don't know much of Varane, he is not likely to play much. De Gea is a promising young keeper, not an upgrade from an old VDS though. Young is nothing exceptional, we already got 3 wingers better than him at the club. Modric/Sneijder is the only pair I'd be happy about, especially the latter since I don't rate the small Modric that high. I have higher hopes in Fergie signings this summer.

On the other side, there are not many keepers that are an upgrade over VDS and we're getting the best young keeper in the world.

Young will be a good signing, I would've loved to see your thoughts when we signed Valencia, I've no doubt that he will improve just like Valencia and make a great impact. Plus we need 4 wingers, as to ensure that our wingers doesn't get knackered like Nani.

Varane(I haven't seen him play) but he has been one of the best players in a relegated side and is tipped to play for France at 18, I don't see why we shouldn't be excited over him.
 
That is not really something to cream yourself over is it? We don't know much of Varane, he is not likely to play much. De Gea is a promising young keeper, not an upgrade from an old VDS though. Young is nothing exceptional, we already got 3 wingers better than him at the club. Modric/Sneijder is the only pair I'd be happy about, especially the latter since I don't rate the small Modric that high. I have higher hopes in Fergie signings this summer.

No one we can realistically sign is going to be an upgrade over VDS, but we've more or less signed the most promising young keeper in the world who also happened to be our first choice.

Young's natural position is left wing - we don't have many players who can naturally play that flank, Nani/Valencia are predominantly right-wingers. Furthermore he can also play in the hole and in other advanced positions, is a set-piece specialist and has an eye for goal. So he'll be a hell of an acquisition at £14million.

Although the muppets would probably prefer Sneijder because of his global name, I would much rather prefer Modric since he'll fit into our system perfectly IMO. We already have Rooney who plays that Sneijder role (as can Young if we sign him) so what we really need is a creative CM thats also able to play effectively in a 4-4-2, which Modric does better.

As for Varane I admit I know very little about, but if he's good enough for SAF he's good enough for me.
 
The article states that we are capable of breaking the British transfer record. I believe we are. Who, in your opinion, would we do it for?
 
The article states that we are capable of breaking the British transfer record. I believe we are. Who, in your opinion, would we do it for?

I may get laughed over it, but I genuinely think that we'll make a decent approach for Sniejder this summer, however not sure if that would be over the British Transfer Record. Perhaps someone like Aguero?
 
Schweinsteiger, £51,000,001.

Sneidjer, £35,000,000 - £40,000,000?
 
The article states that we are capable of breaking the British transfer record. I believe we are. Who, in your opinion, would we do it for?

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Berba is the official record at £30,75 million? I reckon we'd take Modric if he's available around £35million. I would.

We won't have to pay as much as 35 mn. At 27-30, they'd bite out hands off.

And then declare it as 35 mn with add ons and loan deals that they'll get as a part of the deal.

Its a CM we're talking about and not a striker.
 
Hard to be excited over Varane, he's supposedly promising but is still a kid and plays in a position we have been strong in this season.

Young is a good signing, there were others I would have preferred but his price and reasonable quality make him a solid buy.

For all the talk of Modric or Sneijder, the type of midfielder I agree we need, I think the addition of another ball winner with bite is also important.

The article states that we are capable of breaking the British transfer record. I believe we are. Who, in your opinion, would we do it for?

Nobody in my view.
 
The article states that we are capable of breaking the British transfer record. I believe we are. Who, in your opinion, would we do it for?

I don't see us spending over £50million for a single player, not even Sneijder or Sanchez are worth anywhere that .

Unless Ronaldo's coming home :drool:
 
Fabergas. Come on, he's not getting into that Barca side.

Anyhow, how good is Young?

Xavi's not getting any younger, Fabregas is the perfect replacement. I'd love to see Cesc at United, but realistically it won't happen at all. Plus, he's gone missing against Barca before hasn't he? Schweiny and Sneijder have both played the Spain National side as it is currently and nearly done them, if only Robben could finish eh?

Young is a decent addition to the squad, we're building a very strong squad indeed, but in terms of increasing the quality of the first 11, he doesn't really. Nani and Valencia are both better, but Young perhaps has more versatility especially when moving inside behind the striker.
 
Xavi's not getting any younger, Fabregas is the perfect replacement. I'd love to see Cesc at United, but realistically it won't happen at all. Plus, he's gone missing against Barca before hasn't he? Schweiny and Sneijder have both played the Spain National side as it is currently and nearly done them, if only Robben could finish eh?

Young is a decent addition to the squad, we're building a very strong squad indeed, but in terms of increasing the quality of the first 11, he doesn't really. Nani and Valencia are both better, but Young perhaps has more versatility especially when moving inside behind the striker.

Indeed...which is why I think they've got another two years left at their absolute peak. As for Young, it worries me that we're buying to strengthen the squad rather than the first team....I've seen him play a few times, and he hasn't been particularly impressive. I dunno. I think we have to aspire to reach Barca's level.... whether that's possible or not doesn't matter..
 
I think we need a striker as well, Fergie obviously doesnt trust Berbatov and Owens contract is up.
The verdicts out on Macheda which just leaves Wellbeck who's only had one good season so cant be over relied on.

Fergie likes to have many options upfront he has showed that throughout every team hes built and that is what this team is lacking.

I hope he buys a top class central midfield player aswell because we lack quality and leadership in there.
 
Indeed...which is why I think they've got another two years left at their absolute peak. As for Young, it worries me that we're buying to strengthen the squad rather than the first team....I've seen him play a few times, and he hasn't been particularly impressive. I dunno. I think we have to aspire to reach Barca's level.... whether that's possible or not doesn't matter..

I do agree on most things, but I think for 10-15 million in this transfer market that's a drop in the ocean.

I don't think we'll ever play like Barca, personally I still prefer our all guns blazing pin them back down the wings type style of play when in full flight and glory. But I think we have to step up a level in midfield.

Their peak is going to be awhile yet I worry, unless burn-out and some injuries start occuring this side has a young core that is frigthening. Also, there comes a point where they buy into the hype and lifestyle, like Ronaldinho did after the 2006 CL win. Hopefully they start not being bothered about winning so much.
 
7 am wake up in the morning
Gotta be fresh, gotta wash my hands
Check tribal football, checking also goal
Seeing everything, the time is going
Tickin on and on, enhasul rushing
We should be buying non stop
Gotta check the forum, I see my friends (My friends)

Modric in the front seat
Hamsik in the back seat
Gotta make my mind up
Which player should we take?

Its transfers, transfers
Gotta get down to transfers
Everyone looking forward to new players, players
Transfers, Transfers
Getting down to transfers
Everybody looking forward to new players

Checking, Checking (Yeah)
Surfing, Surfing (yeah)
Buy, Buy, Buy, Buy
Looking forward to the new players.
 
£15 million to £50 million, plus, in a short period of time. :(
 
I'm utterly baffled by peoples underrating of young. As someone who's seen him in the flesh a lot over the last two years he really is very talented and offers us qualities we don't currently have in spades.
 
I forgot that. I can't imagine us paying that amount for any player not named Ronaldo or Messi. I can't see who would be worth it either. Fabregas maybe.

I think I agree with you. That is why I asked the question in the first place. I really can't think of anyone, outside of the 'Big Two.'

Unless Spuds were to take us to the cleaners over Modric/Bale.
 
The England winger-cum-striker has a year left on his deal at Villa Park and Ferguson feels he will be able to sign him for a relatively knock-down price of about £14m.

Gentlemen, start your engines.
 
Merry muppet summer everyone!
 
Indeed...which is why I think they've got another two years left at their absolute peak. As for Young, it worries me that we're buying to strengthen the squad rather than the first team....I've seen him play a few times, and he hasn't been particularly impressive. I dunno. I think we have to aspire to reach Barca's level.... whether that's possible or not doesn't matter..


we won the title because our squad strength was better than the rest.

Young is effective. To compete at Barca's level we need at least 3 players who can keep the ball like their players do.

Players like Sneider, Modric and Sanchez come to mind.

what was obvious from yesterday's match was the gulf between the best team in England and the best team in the world.

But it is not just buying players. Barcelona as a team are among the handful in world football that come along once in a while. Watching them reminded me of the great Ajax side of the early 70s that won the European Cup 3 times in a row.

Ajax then could have won the World Cup as Barcelona now can.

It is not a coincidence that Spain are the world champions.

and the numerous threads and posts about Fergie not getting his tactics right is just a huge misunderstanding of what people saw or making excuses for our defeat.

Barcelona are not unbeatable. But they need to have a bad day at the office and the team playing them has to get everything right.